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Making program work in Windows 7 (Time Matters 8.0)
Thanatos
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So, I'm trying to get a program called Time Matters 8.0 to install into Windows 7. According to the manufacturer, it isn't Windows 7 compatible. I've tried installing it as an administrator, installing it as Windows XP (both SP 2 and 3), installing it as Windows 2000, and installing it as Windows 98.
Is there any sort of emulator or other program I can run to make Windows 7 be more XP-like? I know the program works in XP.
Every time I try to install it, all it does is make me enter in the license key, then tell me that the installation has failed; it doesn't give any sort of reason or logic to it. If anyone could help me with this, I would be eternally grateful.
Is there any sort of emulator or other program I can run to make Windows 7 be more XP-like? I know the program works in XP.
Every time I try to install it, all it does is make me enter in the license key, then tell me that the installation has failed; it doesn't give any sort of reason or logic to it. If anyone could help me with this, I would be eternally grateful.
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Download XP mode. It's Virtual PC set up to run only as XP. Run it in the VM.
Otherwise you could try running the installer in administrator and in compatibility mode simultaneously. If that doesn't work there's not much else you can do unless someone has developed a third-party unofficial workaround.
If he doesn't have pro, then he could just set up the VM software of his preference and then load XP into the VM and run it from there if the main OS needs to stay 7 for some reason.
When you log in as administrator, and go to the folder, then right click, and go to sharing and security, can you set full access for all users?
Also, you can add full control to the group "authorized users", then add administrator, all users, and yourself to that group. I've run into that a few times on WinXp on active directory. It's a shitty workaround, but it works.
According to the Control Panel in XP Mode I am an administrator. Maybe it would do it if I ran it as administrator? I'll have to give that a try.
Log into Windows 7 as administrator. Go to your control panel and turn off the UAC, or UAT, or whatever it is that double checks every time you do something.
Then, under windows 7 still, set up the security permissions on the folder with the instructions above.
Then log into winxp mode as admin, and see if you can see the security settings now or install the program.
Does that work?
XP Mode is XP Pro SP3. Are you installing the program within the VM, or within Windows 7?
Ideas?
It is a virtual drive. XP Mode is a variation of Virtual PC with some RDP stuff in it.
You can't just write stuff to this directory normally as your own user when you're inside XP mode? Are you actually getting permission denied?
Right. Can you manually make files/folders in that directory under XP mode, however? I'll install it here (xp mode) and see if i can get anything out of it. might take me a few to finish the download though.
In the meantime, this thread seems to mention some stuff that might work for getting the access you need: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itprovirt/thread/fd336ac5-bee3-435b-9a8a-005d8104ca60
Anyone know how I map a network drive in XP Mode?
That said, there's a simple way to fix it.
Start Explorer, go to the tools -> Folder Options menu
Select the View tab
Scroll down the list of Advanced Settings
Find the one that reads "Use simple file sharing (Recommended)" and turn it off
apply the settings.
then when you look at folder properties, you should have a "Security" tab, which you can tweak.
(although i'm surprised it matters, since your user is an administrator by default, at least, it is here, but perhaps the permissions are wonky for Time Matters 8.0 as it sets itself up during install)
(I assume an upgrade to V10 of TM isn't possible here?
Had to send the laptop home with the user for the weekend, but I'll come back to this on Monday. I'm almost there. So close I can feel it, and I'll feel so much better once it's up. Thanks for the help, all!
Uh. the administrative token you gain when you elevate is essentially identical to the one you have when you're logged in with an administrator account. If you're going to go to the trouble of doing what you're doing, you may as well just turn off UAC and use your own account.
Not trying to derail a thread or anything, but what, specifically, isn't working for you? What app, and what happens when you run it elevated under an account within the admin group with UAC enabled?
Note that there are definitely some apps that just assume completely irrational things. There are apps that have shims in place written by the windows app compat team that redirect file writes to user directories. The windows team prefer not to do this though, as it's more or less only a crutch. Absolute essentials only.
That said, except for older shrinkwrap software (like what Thanatos is dealing with, where he can't just get a working version without forking over cash), there's usually updated software, or something similar by another vendor that works perfectly fine.
After all, the model we're talking about came into existence with *vista*. Win7 streamlined a lot of things, and added performance, stability, and some newer stuff (revved video driver model, etc), but the core security components have existed for several years now. New stuff just has no excuse for not working, save for incompetence on the developer's part or simply being old and not updated.
The stuff I generally run into that fits into this category are XP era games. And I'm yet to run into one that doesn't start working the second you run it with elevated privileges. Even on x64 systems as wow64 processes.
One more question: according to the XP Mode documentation, there's a way to get things to run in a "seamless mode" where they appear to be running in Windows 7, while actually running in XP Mode. Any fucking clue how to get it to do that? It's probably something stunningly obvious that I just can't figure out, but my Google-fu is failing as well (lots of articles talking about using it, none talking about how to actually set it up so it works). Any help?
http://ts2community.com/blogs/sdeming/archive/2009/11/06/seamless-execution-under-windows-xp-mode.aspx
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