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New Mortal Kombat Rebirth live action teaser.... damn cool
Also, don't get me wrong, I find this whole concept to be an awesome creative challenge: taking the zaniness of the MK universe and putting it into a gritty, more... I don't want to say realistic, but less supernatural setting is a pretty cool idea to work through on paper. I probably would have had fun doing that myself.
I just don't think it'd make a Mortal Kombat game I'd like.
I still doubt this is a movie, if it is it'll be one of those straight to DVD ones i would think. Nobody cares about MK these days except for old fans who played it 15 years ago on super nintendo when the game didnt suck ass.
Hate to say it, but the game sucked ass then too. The fatalities covered up for the terrible gameplay.
MK > SF
Mortal Kombat is right alongside Killer Instinct in the ridiculously rose coloured glasses department. They were both games based on gimmicks that are no longer unique or even interesting, and for either to survive in a new form they would have to be so different from the originals that they may as well be different series altogether.
Nope.
I still play MKII pretty regularly on PSN, and have enjoyed every incarnation of the series thus far with the exceptions of Armageddon and DC Universe.
I stand by my original statement.
It depends on how specific you're going with this. Mortal Kombat 2 is more fun and possibly a better game than Street Fighter 2, but not Super Turbo. In fact, Mortal Kombat 2 is still a fun game all around, if you just want to dick around with friends. Notice the part where I said a NEW game would have to be different from the originals n ways that make them almost unrecognizable as the same series. I'd argue that, aside from a few iconic special moves, the transition from MK3 to MK5 accomplished just that.
You know, I probably would have been happy as hell about this trailer if they did four things.
1. Replace Scorpion with Kano as the prisoner sent in to get intel.
2. Replace Reptile with Baraka as the deformed guy. Keep the "grafts blades into his hands." bit though. Baraka was always a sort of deformed human anyway, while Reptile was always the lizardman. (Seriously, that's his thing)
3. Don't use any major non-human characters for the other roles. There's plenty of popular human or near human characters to fill out the ranks.
4. Don't fucking kill Johnny Cage in the backstory. Just don't include him if you don't want him around.
1. Kano is terrible, shut up. And they're not sending him to get intel.
2. They're both ugly, who cares which one is ugly by birth and which one after mutilating himself?
3. Why not?
4. Johnny Cage is terrible, shut up.
1. Scorpion is overused to the point of where he is as "terrible" as any other character. Making him into a pacifist criminal who the cops manipulate just continues the downward spiral. And sorry, "intel."
Kano already has the criminal angle, you might as well use him.
2. Obviously I care. And I want to stick true to the characters. Reptile was a lizardman, first and foremost. That was his "thing." (With his secondary "thing" being that he was the last of his race.). Even beyond that, the new concept for him is terrible: A deformed serial killer is a huge downgrade. Might as well use a different character for that. Like, say, Baraka, who was already a monstrous looking human guy with murderous tendencies.
3. Because they're unnecessary changes. As I said, there's plenty of popular human and near-human characters that can be adapted without completly changing everything that ever made the character what it was. I mean, take reptile. Previously, the lizardman thing was the source of EVERYTHING that made him unique in the games. His long tongue he used as a weapon, his acidic spit, his inhuman animal attacks... What is he now? An ugly human who eats people's heads? What's the point of calling him Reptile then? What the hell is even his hook as an actual fighter now?
4. He's just as "terrible" as all the other characters. Why bother adding him back into the mythos if you're just going to instantly slaughter him in the backstory. It's a waste of resources.
Scorpion was pretty cool until they made him a bulky muscular barbarian in the more recent 3D games. Kano, on the other hand, never was much of a anything and in his wake came terrible things (all the Black Dragon reject-of-a-characters in the later games). But even if it was Kano, I'd still be happy that it wasn't Liu Kang. Seriously, what is up with making the main characters boring everymans?
As for the Reptile thing, yeah, I see your point. I pretty much think this new version sucks because I'm totally grossed out by that sort of skin diseases.
Baraka on the hand never was even slightly interesting. Ooh, a guy with ugly face and swords in his hands, how quaint. With him they can do whatever they want and it's bound to be an improvement, although since they still stuck to the whole "guy with ugly face and swords in his hands" thing improvement doesn't seem likely. Then again, he did decapitate Johnny Cage which immediately endears him to me somewhat.
As for the non-humans, well, they seem to be doing away with that sort of thing and giving everyone a more earthly and realistic (by comparison) origins. What, you'd rather they kept those characters exactly as they were? They're rebooting the thing, making things the same as before would be counter-productive to that idea. It'd be like having Jack Nicholson running around in white face paint in Batman Begins.
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I'm just upset that Sub-Zero is a bad guy. The brother was supposed to be GOOD.
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It's great when they try so hard to be mature and serious only to end up accomplishing the exact opposite. I'm sure 13 year olds will love it.
Isn't that what MK has always been?
Well yeah. But if they're shooting for a "reboot" I don't think they're doing themselves any favors by appealing to the exact same audience as before. An audience that will have to be carded at the box office. Will this appeal to adults? Not if they have taste. So really, they're only going to narrow their potential audience with this.
Don't know whether this has been posted yet, but from a jobs posting on Gamasutra it looks like this'll be built on top of Unreal. Pretty pumped for this!
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
It also spawned a sequel. Which is honest to God one of the worst movies in history.
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CokomonOur butts are worth fighting for!Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
What, and have the sound waves break his five hundred dollar sunglasses? I don't think so.
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edited June 2010
As a young teenager then, that movie made no sense to me. Oh hey, we're walking along in desert for no reason hey why the hell are you strapped down alone in a deserted lab etc.
Granted, it doesn't make much more sense now either.
I did remember being entertained by Jax vs Motaro. Go American Gladiators!
That script was one competent rewrite away from not being bad. I don't know what possessed them to put all those name drops in there. I'm pretty sure real police don't give criminals cool codenames.
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I'm assume they're just underworld nicknames. Or whatever killers/assassins/criminals know each other as.
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Wasn't there once a mob assassin nicknamed Iceman?
Okay, so... Mortal Kombat. It's not a game trailer. Actually was made for the director to sell WB on his vision for a reimagined MK film. [...] I did it as a favor to a friend. No idea yet what WB's reaction to it was. And I'm not sure how you can contact WB to push them to make it. But you guys are resourceful...! ;-)
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It's usually more of a case of the crazy murderers giving themselves cool names and the law enforcement calls them that because that's what they're best known as.
Wasn't there once a mob assassin nicknamed Iceman?
Yep, Richard Kuklinski, dubbed Iceman by the police.
EDIT: I guess it's worth noting he earned it in a particular way. Wiki!
Kuklinski earned the nickname "Iceman" following his experiments with disguising the time of death of his victims by freezing their corpses in an industrial freezer. Later, he told author Philip Carlo that he got the idea from fellow hitman Robert Pronge, nicknamed "Mister Softee", who drove a Mister Softee truck to appear inconspicuous.
I am very conflicted over that trailer. It's awesome and shitty at the same time.
Doesn't that describe Mortal Kombat exactly?
No, MK was always pretty much shit.
As The Ender put it pretty much perfectly earlier nothing about MK was quality and if it didn't have the fatalities and blood no one ever would have noticed it.
The actual gameplay, particularly compared to Street Fighter II, was complete shit. The graphics were terrible and even the much talked about fatalities were for the most part idiotic and at best laughable. The characters were absurdly generic and what a bored teenager would scribble on their notepad in math class. The story wasn't even B movie quality; and it wasn't even fleshed out till later MK's. MK 1 was more or less a straight up "hey, tournament, kill eachother; oh yeah dude with arms".
There was virtually nothing about it other than the shock value that made it worth playing and if the media of the time hadn't made such a huge deal over the violence no one probably would have played it at all. Even taking SFII out of the equation there were much better arcade fighters at the time.
Having said all that at least this "trailer" was somewhat interesting. If nothing else it was mostly well done if not really cheesy because of how hard they tried to keep it "real". The fighting was pretty cool to watch though.
I'm certainly not going to hold my breath for anything enjoyable coming out of it though.
So if it didn't have the things that made in a unique fighting game to set it apart from the Capcom games...it would have nothing? Oh...cool logic in here.
I also believe it was the first fighting game to introduce the blocking system which is now in every fighter imaginable.
It was also a good game.
Street Fighter and Art of Fighting both had blocking.
But as much as I dislike the Mortal Kombat franchise, attacking the gameplay of the first one while comparing it to Street Fighter 2 is unfair. First of, it WAS unique. It played differently from all the other fighters on the market. Doesn't mean it was good, but you can only take the long view as poor in retrospect, because there's no reason it couldn't have gotten better. And Mortal Kombay 2 was a better game in every regard, it was only after that that the series really started to go downhill, mostly because Midway was chiefly an arcade company and had zero interest in balance, while the Ed Boon and the other guy became more and more interested in their silly mythology and new gimmicks.
And it's rather unfair to site Capcom for balance. Street Fighter 2 was a poorly balanced and extremely buggy game. It wasn't till Super Turbo that they managed to get things right, and it was still poorly balanced overall, and what balance was achieved was as much an accident as it was intentional. In some ways Mortal Kombat 3 was playable at higher levels, and just like Street Fighter, the players did so in ways that the creators had never planned for.
No one said anything about balance. No fighting game at the time was balanced; hell no fighting game now is balanced.
But it doesn't matter. It doesn't take hindsight to recognize it was a shitty game. I was 12 when the game was released and had been a gamer, and frequented arcades, long enough at that point that even then I was fully aware of how shitty the game was. It played very poorly. It had really clunky controls that weren't very responsive, actual gameplay (not to mention animation) was absurdly stiff and felt like you were fighting against the game instead of playing the game. It was uninteresting and had no depth whatsoever.
And dude saying it introduced blocking is just straight up stupid and completely false.
"So if it didn't have the things that made in a unique fighting game to set it apart from the Capcom games...it would have nothing? Oh...cool logic in here."
Yeah, seeing as I said the only thing that made it unique aside from its abysmal graphics, controls and gameplay was that it had blood and gore. So yeah; removing that made it have nothing. That is an excellent point.
I agree the namedropping was kinda ridiculous. They had the right amount of subtlety with Jax and the letters being faded from his door. Though to be honest, had they not said the one guy was Reptile I would not have even guessed. I thought both he and Baraka were Kabal before they got to the name and the blades.
The namedropping seemed ok with the psychos and criminals, the one that stood out for me was Sonya Blade. Just call her Detective Blade or whatever, I'll catch on.
You know, I probably would have been happy as hell about this trailer if they did four things.
1. Replace Scorpion with Kano as the prisoner sent in to get intel.
2. Replace Reptile with Baraka as the deformed guy. Keep the "grafts blades into his hands." bit though. Baraka was always a sort of deformed human anyway, while Reptile was always the lizardman. (Seriously, that's his thing)
3. Don't use any major non-human characters for the other roles. There's plenty of popular human or near human characters to fill out the ranks.
4. Don't fucking kill Johnny Cage in the backstory. Just don't include him if you don't want him around.
1. Kano is terrible, shut up. And they're not sending him to get intel.
2. They're both ugly, who cares which one is ugly by birth and which one after mutilating himself?
3. Why not?
4. Johnny Cage is terrible, shut up.
1. Scorpion is overused to the point of where he is as "terrible" as any other character. Making him into a pacifist criminal who the cops manipulate just continues the downward spiral. And sorry, "intel."
Kano already has the criminal angle, you might as well use him.
2. Obviously I care. And I want to stick true to the characters. Reptile was a lizardman, first and foremost. That was his "thing." (With his secondary "thing" being that he was the last of his race.). Even beyond that, the new concept for him is terrible: A deformed serial killer is a huge downgrade. Might as well use a different character for that. Like, say, Baraka, who was already a monstrous looking human guy with murderous tendencies.
3. Because they're unnecessary changes. As I said, there's plenty of popular human and near-human characters that can be adapted without completly changing everything that ever made the character what it was. I mean, take reptile. Previously, the lizardman thing was the source of EVERYTHING that made him unique in the games. His long tongue he used as a weapon, his acidic spit, his inhuman animal attacks... What is he now? An ugly human who eats people's heads? What's the point of calling him Reptile then? What the hell is even his hook as an actual fighter now?
4. He's just as "terrible" as all the other characters. Why bother adding him back into the mythos if you're just going to instantly slaughter him in the backstory. It's a waste of resources.
Scorpion was pretty cool until they made him a bulky muscular barbarian in the more recent 3D games. Kano, on the other hand, never was much of a anything and in his wake came terrible things (all the Black Dragon reject-of-a-characters in the later games). But even if it was Kano, I'd still be happy that it wasn't Liu Kang. Seriously, what is up with making the main characters boring everymans?
As for the Reptile thing, yeah, I see your point. I pretty much think this new version sucks because I'm totally grossed out by that sort of skin diseases.
Baraka on the hand never was even slightly interesting. Ooh, a guy with ugly face and swords in his hands, how quaint. With him they can do whatever they want and it's bound to be an improvement, although since they still stuck to the whole "guy with ugly face and swords in his hands" thing improvement doesn't seem likely. Then again, he did decapitate Johnny Cage which immediately endears him to me somewhat.
As for the non-humans, well, they seem to be doing away with that sort of thing and giving everyone a more earthly and realistic (by comparison) origins. What, you'd rather they kept those characters exactly as they were? They're rebooting the thing, making things the same as before would be counter-productive to that idea. It'd be like having Jack Nicholson running around in white face paint in Batman Begins.
I really hate that argument. I'm not asking them to keep it exactly the same; just for them to not to change certain things.
What they're doing is taking the Joker and turning him into some kind of psychic demon clown that feeds on schadenfreude. And while that may make an interesting else-worlds tale, I doubt it'd be a good angle for piece of mainline content.
The namedropping seemed ok with the psychos and criminals, the one that stood out for me was Sonya Blade. Just call her Detective Blade or whatever, I'll catch on.
The Writers should watch a few episodes of Law and Order: SVU.
Detective Benson and Detective Stapler have the kinda relationship I envision Blade and Briggs to have.
I agree the namedropping was kinda ridiculous. They had the right amount of subtlety with Jax and the letters being faded from his door. Though to be honest, had they not said the one guy was Reptile I would not have even guessed. I thought both he and Baraka were Kabal before they got to the name and the blades.
this exactly what i thought as well
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EDIT: terrible TOTP
so um, here is why it needs a reboot, for those wondering
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I just don't think it'd make a Mortal Kombat game I'd like.
It depends on how specific you're going with this. Mortal Kombat 2 is more fun and possibly a better game than Street Fighter 2, but not Super Turbo. In fact, Mortal Kombat 2 is still a fun game all around, if you just want to dick around with friends. Notice the part where I said a NEW game would have to be different from the originals n ways that make them almost unrecognizable as the same series. I'd argue that, aside from a few iconic special moves, the transition from MK3 to MK5 accomplished just that.
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Scorpion was pretty cool until they made him a bulky muscular barbarian in the more recent 3D games. Kano, on the other hand, never was much of a anything and in his wake came terrible things (all the Black Dragon reject-of-a-characters in the later games). But even if it was Kano, I'd still be happy that it wasn't Liu Kang. Seriously, what is up with making the main characters boring everymans?
As for the Reptile thing, yeah, I see your point. I pretty much think this new version sucks because I'm totally grossed out by that sort of skin diseases.
Baraka on the hand never was even slightly interesting. Ooh, a guy with ugly face and swords in his hands, how quaint. With him they can do whatever they want and it's bound to be an improvement, although since they still stuck to the whole "guy with ugly face and swords in his hands" thing improvement doesn't seem likely. Then again, he did decapitate Johnny Cage which immediately endears him to me somewhat.
As for the non-humans, well, they seem to be doing away with that sort of thing and giving everyone a more earthly and realistic (by comparison) origins. What, you'd rather they kept those characters exactly as they were? They're rebooting the thing, making things the same as before would be counter-productive to that idea. It'd be like having Jack Nicholson running around in white face paint in Batman Begins.
Seems like they traded Sub-Zero for Scorpion good guy wise.
He was set up as the protagonist, is that better for you? He's clearly the "Hero" that you're supposed to focus on, even if he isn't all good.
Well yeah. But if they're shooting for a "reboot" I don't think they're doing themselves any favors by appealing to the exact same audience as before. An audience that will have to be carded at the box office. Will this appeal to adults? Not if they have taste. So really, they're only going to narrow their potential audience with this.
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It's not like he CAN'T afford another set.
Granted, it doesn't make much more sense now either.
I did remember being entertained by Jax vs Motaro. Go American Gladiators!
edit: Or, the press giving them cool names.
Yep, Richard Kuklinski, dubbed Iceman by the police.
EDIT: I guess it's worth noting he earned it in a particular way. Wiki!
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edit: So no one else watched the MK tv show? With Kristanna Lokan?
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I have an early version of the script, and it would have been a much better movie.
No one said anything about balance. No fighting game at the time was balanced; hell no fighting game now is balanced.
But it doesn't matter. It doesn't take hindsight to recognize it was a shitty game. I was 12 when the game was released and had been a gamer, and frequented arcades, long enough at that point that even then I was fully aware of how shitty the game was. It played very poorly. It had really clunky controls that weren't very responsive, actual gameplay (not to mention animation) was absurdly stiff and felt like you were fighting against the game instead of playing the game. It was uninteresting and had no depth whatsoever.
And dude saying it introduced blocking is just straight up stupid and completely false.
"So if it didn't have the things that made in a unique fighting game to set it apart from the Capcom games...it would have nothing? Oh...cool logic in here."
Yeah, seeing as I said the only thing that made it unique aside from its abysmal graphics, controls and gameplay was that it had blood and gore. So yeah; removing that made it have nothing. That is an excellent point.
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Hence rewrite. Replace codename with "nickname". Voila.
Actually, if they wanted to realistic it up, Mr. Briggs would have said "Alias" instead of "Codename" or "Nickname."
"They call him...The Joker"
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I really hate that argument. I'm not asking them to keep it exactly the same; just for them to not to change certain things.
What they're doing is taking the Joker and turning him into some kind of psychic demon clown that feeds on schadenfreude. And while that may make an interesting else-worlds tale, I doubt it'd be a good angle for piece of mainline content.
The Writers should watch a few episodes of Law and Order: SVU.
Detective Benson and Detective Stapler have the kinda relationship I envision Blade and Briggs to have.
Eh, I always like martial arts movies, even the really vulgar ones. Bring on the braindeath.
Oh yeah. That one's rocking.
this exactly what i thought as well
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EDIT: terrible TOTP
so um, here is why it needs a reboot, for those wondering