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Jazz for Beginners

Anarchy Rules!Anarchy Rules! Registered User regular
edited June 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm quite fond of jazz, in that I can work very well to it - easy listening classical just annoys me. However jazz isn't really a mainstream thing it seems, and I was wondering whether anyone had any jazz artists/albums they recommend to start me off?

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
    Miles Davis - The Complete Birth of the Cool
    John Coltrane - Cookin/Relaxin/Workin/Steamin with the Miles Davis Quintet (this is 4 albums)
    John Coltrane - Giant Steps
    John Coltrane - My Favorite things
    Louis Armstrong - What a Wonderful World
    Louis Armstrong/Ella Fitzgerald - The Complete Ella and Louis on Verve
    Dizzie Gillespie - Pretty much pick any "Best of" album and you're good. Same goes for Django Reinhardt. Same goes for Duke Ellington. Same goes for Charlie Parker.

    Honestly, any of the mainstream greats you can go with a Best of or compilation album and you won't be disappointed.

    And these are all mainstream, nothing really experimental or crazy here. Just genre defining classic 40's/50's/60's jazz.

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    If the easy listening classical stuff grates you, then check out:

    The Electric Miles Davis era. Bitches Brew, obviously. I'm a huge fan of On the Corner as well.

    Check out Soft Machine's Third and Fourth. Check out Volume 2 if you don't mind pop music with a strong Jazz undertone.

    Frank Zappa's Hot Rats features Peaches in Regalia. Check out Jazz From Hell, Waka Jawaka (Hot Rats II), Sleep Dirt (Hot Rats III), Make a Jazz Noise Here, Uncle Meat, and Weasel's Ripped my Flesh, which is very heavy on the Dolphy.

    Sun Ra, Ornette Coleman, and Don Cherry put out some pretty out there albums as well. Very untraditional.

    If you can stand a bit of funk in your jazz then pick up some Fela Kuti.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ond09u9bekA

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    It has occurred to me that maybe when you typed "easy listening classical" you were referring to classical orchestration or chamber and not referring to classical jazz as I thought.

    Regardless, I stand by my recommendations.

    Get as much Dolphy, Monk, and Mingus as you can.

    Out to Lunch, Monk's Dream, and Mingus Ah Um respectively.

    Good thing about Sun Ra is that he has some absolutely out there shit in between legit, excellently composed and played bop. I'd recommend Jazz in Silhouette and Space is the Place (album, not soundtrack) as a good contrast. His Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy is a really awesome slice of some really interesting studio magic back before it was usually possible.

    Grab Chicago Art Ensemble's Live in Paris and Bap Tizum.

    Don Cherry's Orient and The Avant-Garde

    Ornette Coleman's The Shape of Jazz to Come and Free Jazz.

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  • 1ddqd1ddqd Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Maynard Ferguson plays a mean trumpet. Not "easy listening" by a long shot, but it's fantastic jazz.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Off the top of my head, in no particular order:

    Miles Davis
    John Coltraine
    Duke
    Bill Evans
    Count Basie
    Astrud Gilberto
    Chick Corea
    Charlie Parker
    Ella Fitzgerald
    Horace Silver
    Herbie Hancock
    Ornette Coleman
    Joao Gilberto
    Louis Armstrong
    Thelonius Monk
    Nat King Cole
    Oscar Peterson
    Sun Ra


    That takes you from Swing to Bop to Latin to What the fuck and back.

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  • metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Sheep, considering he intimated a desire to study along with this music, I'm not sure much of what you recommended is quite what the OP looking for, even if it's all quality jazz, (Minus On the Corner.)

    A lot of the classic Blue Note bop/post-bop records are more what I'd suggest, along the lines of matt's post.

    Stuff like:

    Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers - Indestructible
    Wayne Shorter - Wayne Shorter
    Grant Green - Green Street

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  • UberFlopUberFlop Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Some of the stuff I've been sucked into lately.

    Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um
    Bob Curnow - The Music of Pat Metheny
    Herbie Hancock - Head Hunters
    Freddie Hubbard - Red Clay
    Maynard Ferguson - Live from San Francisco
    Bela Fleck and the Fleck Tones - Live at the Quick
    Bela Fleck - The Bluegrass Sessions

    The best place to learn as you go what jazz you'd like would be Pandora. Make a new station and type in a couple of artists, listen to some of their works and works similar to them, thumbs-up or thumbs-down whatever you do or don't like, and then when you're comfortable with what you're hearing, add in a new artist or two and repeat.

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  • Jimmy KingJimmy King Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Pretty much anything I would have recommended has been recommended, except for 2 guys. Charlie Parker and Cannonball Adderley. Find a Charlie Parker album with Now's The Time - one of my favorites by him. I used to play the shit out of that song back when I really focused on my sax playing.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Bernd Heitzler's "Bass Trio" album is very good, and has a focus on standards so it's not too loose.

    Oscar Peterson's "We Get Requests" is similar, very good versions of standards. If you thought "Girl from Ipanema" was boring muzak, you haven't heard this version.

    Since a lot of these artists have so much music out, I've never been happy with just diving in to their catalog -- some of the recordings are really blah, especially compared to today's production standards, and the drums are really quiet, the bass is mixed down low, and the main solo instrument is too loud. The two albums above has great production on it so everything, bass included, is mixed nicely.

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    John Scofield and early MMW are definitely worth checking out

    later MMW is also great, but it's much more challenging to listen to (very avante)

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  • legallytiredlegallytired Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Clifford Brown - Study in brown
    Charles Mingus - Blues and Roots

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  • Hey AshtrayHey Ashtray Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I always come in with the modern recommendations, looks like the classics have been covered:

    Chris Potter - Gratitude
    David Binney - Welcome to Life
    Joshua Redman - Elastic
    Kneebody
    RUDDER
    AlasNoAxis

    Those are all great bands/players.

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  • Stabbity StyleStabbity Style He/Him | Warning: Mothership Reporting Kennewick, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    The Louis Armstrong/Ella Fitzgerald Porgy and Bess is simply amazing, get it. It's on the "The Complete Ella and Louis on Verve" recommended earlier. Miles Davis also has a Porgy and Bess that's pretty good, but not quite as great. Also, there's a Ray Charles version somewhere that's supposed to be good, haven't found it yet.

    I'm more of a fan of the earlier Miles Davis stuff, so I'd recommend Birth of the Cool, Four and More, and Kind of Blue.

    Louis Armstrong is just great no matter what era you listen to, he goes from quick and fun in the earlier swing era to more emotive and expressive, saying more with less notes later on. Honestly, I don't think you can go wrong with him.

    Thelonious Monk is really fun to listen to if it clicks with you. I'm mainly listening to At Carnegie Hall and Big Band & Quartet in Concert.

    Duke Ellington is also really great. He worked with a lot of the great jazz artists through the 20th century and his orchestra is consistently awesome. I've been listening to the Duke box and Duke Ellington & John Coltrane.

    Ella Fitzgerald is probably my favorite singer. Honestly, anything I say won't do her justice. If you can, try and get her Songbooks. They cover much of the Great American Songbook.

    I don't know if you have it, but I'd consider getting the Zune Pass. You get access to all sorts of great stuff.

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  • saggiosaggio Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Stay away from late era John Coltrane, Sun Ra, Pharaoh Sanders and Ornette Coleman until you are ready to move beyond easy to listen to stuff. If you come to it uninitiated, you'll think it's just noise in the worst way.

    In the meantime, you should listen to the Modern Jazz Quartet and anything that was ever put out on the Blue Note record label.

    And for the record: A Love Supreme is the greatest Coltrane album ever recorded. So there.

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  • Anarchy Rules!Anarchy Rules! Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Thanks a lot for the recommendations, I've been checking them out on Spotify, and for the most part what I've been looking for.

    Thanks!

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