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I need some of you guy's and gal's help.

BeauRosserBeauRosser Registered User new member
edited June 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
Hey, everyone. My audio company is getting into the gaming audio arena and I would love to have some of your feedback regarding the brand logo we're working on. We're working with a very talented designer (who will remain nameless for the time being), and I would love this gaming community's feedback.

I'm a huge gamer and have been for years, but sadly, I'm the only one in the company that meets the demographic we're trying to make these new headsets for. So, I'm reaching out to you guys and gals, as the PAX crowd is the crowd we want to get interested in these new headsets.

Out of the three brand logos below, which one do you gravitate more toward, and if you're feeling saucy, then tell me why.

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Plus

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Bolt

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Block

I've been a reader of Penny Arcade since 2000, and although I've never really posted anything here in the forums, I really would love all of your help.

Thanks, all.

- Beau Rosser

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  • OhioOhio Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I like Block the best, and Bolt the least.

    Block just looks simple and classy. As for Bolt, I just plain don't like the way it looks, the logo specifically. What does a lightning bolt have to do with headsets?

    And for Plus, having the plus sign come directly after the name almost makes it look like the name is Thrash+

    So then I think, what's the "plus"? I also don't like that while there are two plus signs in the name, one is italicized and the other isn't.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Definitely block. It's integrated. The others are Thrash + stuff and it's weird.

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  • Penguin_OtakuPenguin_Otaku Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Block.

    I can see that as a logo I'd see when a game starts up.

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  • saltinesssaltiness Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Block. Simplicity wins.

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  • BeauRosserBeauRosser Registered User new member
    edited June 2010
    This is great, everyone. Keep 'em coming!

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I like Plus the best, but it could be that of the 3 color schemes I like that one the best.

    I like the design of Bolt the least. Also the lettering in it seems oddly proportioned or spaced.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    saltiness wrote: »
    Block. Simplicity wins.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    saltiness wrote: »
    Block. Simplicity wins.

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  • Protein ShakesProtein Shakes __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    Block.

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  • DisrupterDisrupter Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Its not so much that simplicity wins, its more that the block logo is the only one that looks professional.

    It succeeds at what it tries to accomplish, the other two fail (with the bolt failing far worse).

    The other two look like I made them, and I am not a good designer. Block looks like someone who gets paid to design made it.

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  • NostregarNostregar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Going against some of the others, I like Bolt the best. Block is boring and uninteresting to me and does not make me care what the product is. On the other hand, Bolt has an interesting logo going with the name, and makes me pay attention. That's the kind of thing that if I saw it on its own without knowing what the product was, I would possibly look it up. If I saw Block I'd just shrug it off.

    I really really dislike Plus. Not sure why.

    Just my opinions - I'm not saying the people that like Block are "wrong", I just like the other one better.

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  • MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Block, its the only one that would read well tiny on a business card and huge on a billboard.

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  • TechBoyTechBoy Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I'm surprised there's so many votes for Block. My initial reaction when seeing it was "If there was a company called Thrash making Samsung knock offs, this would be their logo."

    I mean if you're naming the product/brand Thrash, that's an edgy, somewhat violent word. The logo-ing should reflect that, being "simple and elegant" is just contradictory.

    So given that my obvious top pick is Plus.

    It's got the razor wheel implying danger, plus it's got red lettering implying blood, plus it's got the Red Cross plus sign implying you need medical care. It goes very well with the name.

    The Bolt logo isn't bad either - and might be more fitting because lightning and electronics go hand in hand - but I think the text design is kind of bland.

    just my $0.02

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  • LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I like plus, for the reasons TechBoy gave.

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  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Plus looks vaguely like something from TF2

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2010
    I don't think the typography on the bolt or the plus are really meshing with the symbols very well. I feel like the plus sign in the A is just a forced way to try and connect the two. The razor in that logo also sort of has a motion to it that seems to take all the attention away from the text anyway. I like the Bolt but I think the inner circle is just making the symbol busy as the teal doesn't pop enough to completely seperate from the gray. The bolt logo is also weirdly spaced out, All the space in the font and how far away the symbol is, seems like it could be way more economical.

    I think the first to aren't refined enough to compete well with the simplicity of the third. Just my opinion.

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  • Count FunkulaCount Funkula Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Honestly, I don't think any of these really work as a logo for the product you described. I mean when you think of "thrash", what comes to mind? Chaos, movement, etc. The logo should be more kinetic and have more personality, a "brand identity".

    I whipped up something quick in Illustrator to explain what I mean:

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  • metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Like Iruka said, the typography on the first two doesn't benefit each graphic, and typography is certainly the more important aspect of branding. None of these designs seem to represent a relationship to the product, presumably trying to represent the corporate ideology instead. But because I've never heard of Thrash audio products, I have no idea why a plus sign with a saw-blade around it services that vision.

    Nonetheless, the plus symbol is probably what I would vote for, but if I were Art Director I would definitely want to see more effort put towards a well-defined typographic branding.

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  • frayfray Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I like Plus, but I don't think it needs the plus sign in the A, and the solid R looks a bit weird to me. Block looks ok, Bolt doesn't really do anything for me. The circular logo above the text means there's too much negative space, and it doesn't look balanced like the other two. I'm not a designer or anything though, so what the hell do I know.

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  • NylonathetepNylonathetep Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    None of them.

    Sure the Logo looks nice for anything generic, but it doesn't bring "audio" into mind. An effective logo should in some way instill the idea or the product that the company is trying to sell. I just don't see it in your logo.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Honestly, I don't think any of these really work as a logo for the product you described. I mean when you think of "thrash", what comes to mind? Chaos, movement, etc. The logo should be more kinetic and have more personality, a "brand identity".

    I whipped up something quick in Illustrator to explain what I mean:

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    I would choose this above the other three. The movement also works because it's an audio company.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Yeah, I guess to clarify, I really don't find anything wrong with the Bolt and Plus logos, they just don't seem to associate with the "Thrash" very well.

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  • BeauRosserBeauRosser Registered User new member
    edited June 2010
    These responses are all great - keep them coming.

    Thanks, again.

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  • DaemonionDaemonion Mountain Man USARegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    You know, I don't really like any of them a whole lot, but I like "Bolt" the most. Bolt seems to be the most audio-like. "Block" reminds me of Samsung, and while the logo is neat in "Plus", I really don't like the typography.

    Also, I think the typography is kind of boring for a name like "thrash" (thrash is a gnarly word) - there is nothing that stands out about it. Reese's peanut butter cups have that iconic first "R," Oreos have the "O," (and for audio) Creative has that easily recognizable "A."

    If you don't use typography in this way, I say you need to have a logo that is iconic in itself. Think of Apple's apple, Windows' colored flag window thing, Horizon Organic's jumping cow, stuff like that. This is why I like the idea behind your "medical + with sawblade" and "lighting sunburtst" logos, but I don't think those logos mesh well with the text.

    I say keep innovating along the lines of Plus and Bolt.

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  • Niceguy MyeyeNiceguy Myeye Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I like the bock also, but you may want to take bits of it out and turn it from a razor blade from a safety razor out of it. That way you can get the edgy feeling that people say is lacking.

    Reference of safety razor blade:

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    You may not need to take the bits in the middle, but if you get the outline, it may work. You can keep it turned in the same direction as the original.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    "Block" isn't my favorite design aesthetically, but it's probably the best one for your purposes. Assuming you want it to appear on loading screens for games and on the sides of boxes and so on, you want a logo that has your name clearly visible.

    If it were up to me I would probably try and take the visual style of "Shock," bring the elements closer together and toss a box around them. Maybe make the type a bit heavier.

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  • DaemonionDaemonion Mountain Man USARegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    oops.

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  • NostregarNostregar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Honestly, I don't think any of these really work as a logo for the product you described. I mean when you think of "thrash", what comes to mind? Chaos, movement, etc. The logo should be more kinetic and have more personality, a "brand identity".

    I whipped up something quick in Illustrator to explain what I mean:

    thrashlogo.jpg

    I would choose this above the other three. The movement also works because it's an audio company.

    Yeah, this.

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  • SporkedSporked Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I like the bock also, but you may want to take bits of it out and turn it from a razor blade from a safety razor out of it. That way you can get the edgy feeling that people say is lacking.

    Reference of safety razor blade:

    razor%20blade.jpg

    You may not need to take the bits in the middle, but if you get the outline, it may work. You can keep it turned in the same direction as the original.

    Actually, if you're going to use a safety razor, you should put a waveform silhouette in the middle.

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2010
    I don't think it needs to go in the direction of grunge text and black and red, personally. That thrash in the jagged red box reads more as skater clothing company.

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  • saltinesssaltiness Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Nostregar wrote: »
    Honestly, I don't think any of these really work as a logo for the product you described. I mean when you think of "thrash", what comes to mind? Chaos, movement, etc. The logo should be more kinetic and have more personality, a "brand identity".

    I whipped up something quick in Illustrator to explain what I mean:

    thrashlogo.jpg

    I would choose this above the other three. The movement also works because it's an audio company.

    Yeah, this.

    This may be what comes to mind when most people think of the word thrash but that also means that it's painfully obvious to use a distressed font and jagged, angular designs. There is something to be said for the incongruity of the Block design.

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