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Arachnid Assault

KamarKamar Registered User regular
edited June 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
So in the last three days I've seen five different spiders of the same type; not the same one repeatedly, as I've killed each one I've encountered (while screaming like a little girl).

So I'm wondering two things:

1. Are they dangerous? They're brownish and large, not heavy; spindly legs about 2-3 inches long with long bodies. Thought the first one I saw was a daddy longlegs until I looked closer.

2. How the fuck do I get rid of them? Will normal insect sprays get rid of spiders or what?

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Anyway you can get me a picture?

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  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I'll snap a shot on my phone next time I see one.

    edit: And I live in Tennessee, I figure that's relevant.

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    it SOUNDS like a regular house spider, especially if there are that many

    where did you see them?

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  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Three in the bathroom, two in the kitchen. These two places don't share walls and are about as far from each other as possible in the apartment.

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  • FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Just purchase Raid and use it weekly before leaving for work. The one used against cockroaches is quite effective for spiders.

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  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    They're eating something if they're all hanging out in there. You might want to do a general fogging/have an exterminator come spray.

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  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Well, did a thorough spraying of everywhere in the house with the stuff I used to handle a minor roach problem a while back; took them out crazy fast.

    Hopefully it'll kill the spiders and/or their food supply and I can get back to NOT freaking out about making coffee because I'm worried the spider I lost track of will be on the pot and crawl on me ew.

    (better than the roaches, which I have a hardcore phobia over and actually had trouble sleeping at night because of)

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  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Spiders kill bugs. Unless you are really unlucky and they are one of the dangerous kind, which I doubt, you could just leave them alone.

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  • HerkimerHerkimer Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Artreus wrote: »
    Spiders kill bugs. Unless you are really unlucky and they are one of the dangerous kind, which I doubt, you could just leave them alone.

    yeah, this. Spiders are our eight-legged friends.

    Unless they're one of the kinds that can fuck your shit up.

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  • FagatronFagatron Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Herkimer wrote: »
    Artreus wrote: »
    Spiders kill bugs. Unless you are really unlucky and they are one of the dangerous kind, which I doubt, you could just leave them alone.

    yeah, this. Spiders are our eight-legged friends.

    Unless they're one of the kinds that can fuck your shit up.

    Do any of those even exist in Tennessee?

    I know the Brown Recluse is supposed to live there, but he gets a really bad rap, and is actually a super chill spider that you have to provoke the shit out of (squish) to make it bite you. Also it's bite, while capable of causing a necrotic wound, usually doesn't.

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  • soxboxsoxbox Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    If you think you've got a spider problem, odds are you've actually got an infestation of something else, and the spiders are just turning up for the feast. If you've got a lot of dead roaches around from your last purging, it might be just something feeding of that food supply, or possibly even the spiders feeding directly off that, but that seems doubtful to me.

    Put in some work weather-sealing your house. Fill in cracks, put seals on your doors and windows. Most spiders like to set up webs across drafts and take down flying insects as they try and pass through. If there are entrances that you can't weatherproof well, put down a barrier spray.

    Once you cut off their food supply of other insects, the spiders will either move on or die.

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  • DVGDVG No. 1 Honor Student Nether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Alternatively, get a kitty! They'll make a sport of any spiders in your house.

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  • robotbeboprobotbebop Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    DVG wrote: »
    Alternatively, get a kitty! They'll make a sport of any spiders in your house.

    It's also funny as hell to watch. Especially if said spider is on the ceiling.

    Also, do they look like this, sorta -
    http://etxpro.com/Etx%20Pro%20Pics/Aggressive%20house%20spider.jpg

    We used to get these kind of spiders at my grandma's old place. Very unsettling to see one of those fuckers just pop out of nowhere.

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  • RaekreuRaekreu Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    DVG wrote: »
    Alternatively, get a kitty! They'll make a sport of any spiders in your house.

    Spiders control the bugs, lizards control the spiders, cats control the lizards, alligator controls the cats. Circle of life complete when you get a .357 and make yourself some nice new luggage, shoes, and a matching belt.

    Alternatively, you could just get the .357 and practice a whole lot until you get good enough to shoot the spiders. I'm not sure if the money you'd spend on ammo for practice would be less than the cost of the lizards, cats, and alligator, though. I imagine the property damage would be about the same.

    *AHEM* Back on topic, I get these suckers in my home from time to time. I'm in northern Georgia so not too far off from where the OP is living. Usually they show up in the beginning of Summer, aka right now, and then again around the middle of Autumn/start of Winter. Sprays do work on them but honestly the only time I bother to kill them is if they're in my bedroom.

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  • An-DAn-D Enthusiast AshevilleRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Oh, I saw a documentary on how to deal with arachnids.


    Your basic arachnid warrior isn't too smart, but you can blow off a limb and its still 86% combat effective. Here's a tip: Aim for the nerve stem, and put it down for good.


    Would you like to know more?

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  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Well I DO have a .357, improbably good aim, and a whole box of ammo around. Guess my problem's solved!

    Oh, and no, it's way skinner than that, robot. Daddy long-legs thin legs, and a small body too.

    God, that thing looks...meaty. If I had an infestation of those I'd be less 'ew how do I get rid of them' and more 'See you when they're gone, roommates!"

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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    The problem here is that you didn't notice the first spider. You inhaled it in your sleep, and it laid egg sacs n your lungs. Now every time you sleep a spider or two crawls out your mouth and goes exploring. You might kill all the spiders in your apartment, but there are hundreds more in you.

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  • soxboxsoxbox Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    If it doesn't look anything like any of the images found here http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/root/pdfs/poison/Brown_recluse_spider.pdf you should probably let them be (warning: that pdf includes extreme closeup photos of the spider, and may induce nightmares in the arachnophobic).

    Anything else is unlikely to bother you if you don't bother it, and if you do it's not going to do any damage. They're probably helping to save you from some form of mite/ant/fly/roach infestation.

    Spiders are you friends*

    *spiders may or may not actually be your friends. Sending them party invitations is ill-advised.

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  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Kamar wrote: »
    Well I DO have a .357, improbably good aim, and a whole box of ammo around. Guess my problem's solved!

    Oh, and no, it's way skinner than that, robot. Daddy long-legs thin legs, and a small body too.

    God, that thing looks...meaty. If I had an infestation of those I'd be less 'ew how do I get rid of them' and more 'See you when they're gone, roommates!"

    Sounds like just a run of the mill cellar spider. Did it look like this?
    cellar.jpg

    In any case, your description doesn't match any dangerous species that I know of. They're probably harmless, or just packing a real mild bite.

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  • KlorgnumKlorgnum Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Are you entirely sure that they're spiders? I don't know if you have Crane Flys in Tennessee, and it's a long shot since you didn't say anything about them having wings, but it's possible.

    Also:
    Herkimer wrote: »
    Artreus wrote: »
    Spiders kill bugs. Unless you are really unlucky and they are one of the dangerous kind, which I doubt, you could just leave them alone.

    yeah, this. Spiders are our eight-legged friends.

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  • EriosErios Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    An-D wrote: »
    Oh, I saw a documentary on how to deal with arachnids.


    Your basic arachnid warrior isn't too smart, but you can blow off a limb and its still 86% combat effective. Here's a tip: Aim for the nerve stem, and put it down for good.


    Would you like to know more?

    [^]

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  • FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    An-D wrote: »
    Oh, I saw a documentary on how to deal with arachnids.


    Your basic arachnid warrior isn't too smart, but you can blow off a limb and its still 86% combat effective. Here's a tip: Aim for the nerve stem, and put it down for good.


    Would you like to know more?

    The problem with this tactic is that this is only in case you encounter one, and not hundreds as they are used to attack the jocks armed with obsolete machine guns instead of laser cannons.

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  • MovitzMovitz Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Fantasma wrote: »
    An-D wrote: »
    Oh, I saw a documentary on how to deal with arachnids.


    Your basic arachnid warrior isn't too smart, but you can blow off a limb and its still 86% combat effective. Here's a tip: Aim for the nerve stem, and put it down for good.


    Would you like to know more?

    The problem with this tactic is that this is only in case you encounter one, and not hundreds as they are used to attack the jocks armed with obsolete machine guns instead of laser cannons.

    Yeah OP, do you have any creepy and nazi-looking friends who can telepathically brainfuck them? That is always the best route to go. Otherwise your high school teacher might be able to give you some tips. He fought them before I think.

    God that plot was stupid. Decent book though.

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  • rockmonkeyrockmonkey Little RockRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    It is also that time of year. In the last week I've found 6 or 7 spiders, throughout my house, but they have all been curled up and dead when I found them. I don't know what the fuck is with that, unless my dog has been killing them but not leaving any marks as they have all been intact.

    I wouldn't worry too much about it, likely you had a couple egg sacs that hatched somewhere awhile back and now you're seeing the survivors after they've grown abit.

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  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Kamar wrote: »
    Well I DO have a .357, improbably good aim, and a whole box of ammo around. Guess my problem's solved!

    Oh, and no, it's way skinner than that, robot. Daddy long-legs thin legs, and a small body too.

    God, that thing looks...meaty. If I had an infestation of those I'd be less 'ew how do I get rid of them' and more 'See you when they're gone, roommates!"

    Sounds like just a run of the mill cellar spider. Did it look like this?
    cellar.jpg

    In any case, your description doesn't match any dangerous species that I know of. They're probably harmless, or just packing a real mild bite.

    That looks about right.

    And I know all the stuff about spiders being harmless, but me, one of my roommates, and my sister who is moving in when the other roommate moves out are all mildly-to-severely arachnophobic.

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  • SikarianSikarian Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Do any of those even exist in Tennessee?

    I know the Brown Recluse is supposed to live there, but he gets a really bad rap, and is actually a super chill spider that you have to provoke the shit out of (squish) to make it bite you. Also it's bite, while capable of causing a necrotic wound, usually doesn't.

    I don't know where you heard that brown recluse's are chill, but they are evil. They will bite you just for putting your hand next to them. The deadliest part about a brown recluse is that you probably won't feel the bite. Most people don't know they've been bitten until the skin starts to rot off, and by that time it's too late to get any kind of treatment short of amputation.

    Black Widows are the ones you have to seriously harass to get to bite you. A recluse will bite just because he feels like being a dick.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Sikarian wrote: »
    Do any of those even exist in Tennessee?

    I know the Brown Recluse is supposed to live there, but he gets a really bad rap, and is actually a super chill spider that you have to provoke the shit out of (squish) to make it bite you. Also it's bite, while capable of causing a necrotic wound, usually doesn't.

    I don't know where you heard that brown recluse's are chill, but they are evil. They will bite you just for putting your hand next to them. The deadliest part about a brown recluse is that you probably won't feel the bite. Most people don't know they've been bitten until the skin starts to rot off, and by that time it's too late to get any kind of treatment short of amputation.

    Black Widows are the ones you have to seriously harass to get to bite you. A recluse will bite just because he feels like being a dick.

    Black Widows can also be found in Tennessee.

    Also, brown recluses I hear bite most often by crawling into clothes you left on the floor and then when you put them on, it freaks out and bites you.

    Basically, spiders suck and so does Tennessee for having so many. (Also in Tennessee)

    I dunno what the OP is describing though. I haven't had a spider issue around my place. Now, ants...

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  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I've actually been bitten by SOMETHING relatively poisonous in the past; had two discolored bite marks on my inner thigh for YEARS. In retrospect not mentioning it to a doctor was pretty dumb, but nothing rotted off so yeah.

    Anywho, I guess this is basically covered? I can get rid of the spiders by getting rid of their food source, which means doing things I already meant to do; fix up drafts and poison the place. And until they're gone, they aren't a big concern, as they aren't any dangerous type.

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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Sounds like just a run of the mill cellar spider. Did it look like this?
    cellar.jpg
    .

    If your spiders look like this, leave them alone. Daddy Long-legs (I don't know the proper name) are harmless. Well, actually they're very poisonous, but they aren't capable of biting through human skin, and will generally run for the hills if you get too close. If you manage to corer one and then get it to bite you in an open wound somehow, you'll get pretty sick. But you won't die.

    My parents house is in the countryside, and there are literally dozens of those spiders somewhere under the verandah at any time. They help keep the fly population down.

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  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Sounds like just a run of the mill cellar spider. Did it look like this?
    cellar.jpg
    .

    If your spiders look like this, leave them alone. Daddy Long-legs (I don't know the proper name) are harmless. Well, actually they're very poisonous, but they aren't capable of biting through human skin, and will generally run for the hills if you get too close. If you manage to corer one and then get it to bite you in an open wound somehow, you'll get pretty sick. But you won't die.

    My parents house is in the countryside, and there are literally dozens of those spiders somewhere under the verandah at any time. They help keep the fly population down.

    The idea that daddy long legs (whether you're talking about a harvestman, a cellar spider, or even a crane fly) are extremely venomous is a myth. Neither the harvestman nor the crane fly are even venomous, and the cellar spider's venomous bite is perfectly harmless, even though its fangs are long enough to pierce your skin. They even tested its bite on the show MythBusters.

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  • MovitzMovitz Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Sounds like just a run of the mill cellar spider. Did it look like this?
    cellar.jpg
    .

    If your spiders look like this, leave them alone. Daddy Long-legs (I don't know the proper name) are harmless. Well, actually they're very poisonous, but they aren't capable of biting through human skin, and will generally run for the hills if you get too close. If you manage to corer one and then get it to bite you in an open wound somehow, you'll get pretty sick. But you won't die.

    My parents house is in the countryside, and there are literally dozens of those spiders somewhere under the verandah at any time. They help keep the fly population down.

    The idea that daddy long legs (whether you're talking about a harvestman, a cellar spider, or even a crane fly) are extremely venomous is a myth. Neither the harvestman nor the crane fly are even venomous, and the cellar spider's venomous bite is perfectly harmless, even though its fangs are long enough to pierce your skin. They even tested its bite on the show MythBusters.

    Yeah, I was helping a friend paint his basement and he got bitten by one. He yelled out in surprise because it hurt a little and left a small red mark when the spider bit him. It definitely pierced the skin

    I'd say the truth is opposite of the myth. They do bite through your skin but are not poisonous

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  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Nearly all spiders are venomous.

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  • EriosErios Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Given the conflicting points of view in this thread (and the amounts of wrong that implies), I figured it would be prudent to link the consensus opinion of arachnologists http://www.washington.edu/burkemuseum/spidermyth/index.html

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2010
    Movitz wrote: »
    Fantasma wrote: »
    An-D wrote: »
    Oh, I saw a documentary on how to deal with arachnids.


    Your basic arachnid warrior isn't too smart, but you can blow off a limb and its still 86% combat effective. Here's a tip: Aim for the nerve stem, and put it down for good.


    Would you like to know more?

    The problem with this tactic is that this is only in case you encounter one, and not hundreds as they are used to attack the jocks armed with obsolete machine guns instead of laser cannons.

    Yeah OP, do you have any creepy and nazi-looking friends who can telepathically brainfuck them? That is always the best route to go. Otherwise your high school teacher might be able to give you some tips. He fought them before I think.

    God that plot was stupid. Decent book though.

    Yeah but I think you may have missed Verhoeven's point. It was clearly meant to be a B-movie. It was social commentary. It seems like a waste of a brilliant novel but when you really get down to it, there's no good way to execute that novel on screen and stay true to the source.

    Anyhow, deadly spiders are rare. Snap a picture but if you google for spiders in your area you'll find all kinds of horrifying photos that will help you narrow it down.

    Also, I know your pain. I've got severe arachnophobia. I won't judge you for shrieking and using the largest heaviest book you can find to do the deed.

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