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First Job hatred

R.is.for.ReptarR.is.for.Reptar Registered User regular
edited June 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
Okay so i finally got around to getting my first job at Rainbow Food and it may be the worst thing i have ever done in my entire life.
I understand hard work and commitment but honestly this is my first week of work and I'm already pushing 35 hours of work with only 4 hours of training and I've still got a 4 hours shift today.... their putting me at 39 hours my first week.
I know i shouldn't be one to judge because this is my first job and all but I've talked to quite a few other people who have beginner level jobs like me and they said its ridicules to work that much on your first week.

Well than i came to the conclusion that maybe its just because it IS my first week and they wanna get me prepared well i asked for my next weeks schedule and that's 37 hours also

My intention of getting a job over the summer was to work 2 days a week maybe 16 hours max

So my question to you is-
1. Is this common for companies to do to highschool students in the summer?(pushing their hours 1 hours less than full time)

2. Has it happened to you?(and how did you deal with it)

3. Would it look bad if i quite after 1 or 2 paychecks even if i have a legitimate reason?...I'm sure i can make a good one up ;)

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Hmm, maybe they give you those hours cause they think you can handle it?

    I'm trying not to judge you harshly, cause I know that it's summer, and if you're in school you want days off to party and be with friends, but you can also think of all the cash you can save up for college, or even for the school year so you don't work.

    As for your questions

    1) It really depends on your company. What are you doing there?
    2) It did. I worked the forty hours and made money.
    3) Have you thought about talking to them and being specific? If you're that unhappy that you're already thinking of quiting, try them one more time. You might still end up looking bad, but what do you care?

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2010
    1. Yes. Part time is up-to 35 hours/week (assuming you're in America)

    2. Yes. It's the real world. You put your head down and work or you quit.

    3. It would look bad to the only people who will know about it (your employer, your parents). You don't have a legitimate reason.

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  • RayzeRayze Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    When you were hired, did you discuss your hours? I'm assuming you're working at a supermarket and if you are, your application should've let you clearly state if you wanted to work part-time or full time (3-4 days vs. 5-6). If you put down that you can work whenever they need you, then that's your fault. I made that mistake once and they had me working weekends all the time. Know your limitations and state them when you apply


    I say suck it up and see how it goes for the first month. You're out of school for the summer, you're not doing anything exciting and you're making money you can possibly save for college (or you can blow it all on whatever you want now). If you have nothing to complain about after the first month except for the hours, then talk to the manager and ask for your hours to be reduced

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I worked full-time in high school over the summer and I've worked full-time weeks starting from day one at that age as well. When you applied for the job did you apply for a full-time or part-time position? Did you discuss what your hours would be or did you just assume you would be working 2 days only?

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  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    During the interview process did you mention that you only wanted to work part-time and have you spoken to whomever is writing the schedule about it? If not then that should be your first step, a lot of high-school students want to be full-time during the summer so they can get as much money as possible before school starts back up. The probably assumed that was what you wanted.

    If you've talked to them about it and they've said "too bad we're scheduling you for more anyway" then in my opinion you'd be justified in quitting. As for if it would look bad, just don't use them as a reference at the next place you apply.

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  • illiricaillirica Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Have you talked to your management team about your hours? Be clear with them about how many hours you want to work, and be firm. Just say "I'm sorry, but I am only available 16 hours a week" or whatever you're comfortable with, or tell them you're only available Mondays and Wednesdays, or whatever. If you told them when you applied that this was what you were looking for, they should know that. They might be trying to squeeze more hours out of you so they don't have to hire an additional worker.

    It may look bad in the future if you quit after only a couple paychecks without something else lined up. If I were you I'd look for another job and that way you can say later on that you simply chose to move to a job with different hours when the management team at this one wasn't willing to work with you. It's probably not going to be that big of a deal, though, given that this is just a summer job. If you're worried about it later on (if you do quit after a couple weeks), just don't put it on your resume.

    I think the best thing you can do right now is talk to the managers and/or whoever makes the schedules and just tell them that you only want to work X days/hours a week. If you're a good worker, they'll be motivated to keep you for the time you do want to work. In my experience managers are way more used to people complaining about not getting enough hours than getting too many. There may be other people working there who would like extra hours.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Did you specify your availability to them when they hired you? Because that's not uncommon. Also, depending on your state, it could be illegal to work you more than 20 hours.

    That's usually limited to people under 18, working more than 8 hours a day, 6 days a week. If you don't meet any of those requirements, then, they can work you more if you're willing to put up with it.

    When school is in session, it's really limited though.

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  • Edith_Bagot-DixEdith_Bagot-Dix Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Okay so i finally got around to getting my first job at Rainbow Food and it may be the worst thing i have ever done in my entire life.
    I understand hard work and commitment but honestly this is my first week of work and I'm already pushing 35 hours of work with only 4 hours of training and I've still got a 4 hours shift today.... their putting me at 39 hours my first week.
    I know i shouldn't be one to judge because this is my first job and all but I've talked to quite a few other people who have beginner level jobs like me and they said its ridicules to work that much on your first week.

    Well than i came to the conclusion that maybe its just because it IS my first week and they wanna get me prepared well i asked for my next weeks schedule and that's 37 hours also

    My intention of getting a job over the summer was to work 2 days a week maybe 16 hours max

    So my question to you is-
    1. Is this common for companies to do to highschool students in the summer?(pushing their hours 1 hours less than full time)

    2. Has it happened to you?(and how did you deal with it)

    3. Would it look bad if i quite after 1 or 2 paychecks even if i have a legitimate reason?...I'm sure i can make a good one up ;)

    First off, I don't want to sound like a dick grown up or anything, but 39 hours a week isn't so bad - it's basically a full time job. You're getting paid for it so you'll have more money and less time than you thought you would. You could always work there until you make as much as you would have working 16 hours a week all summer, and then quit and take the rest of the summer off.

    1. This is a common thing for companies to do to everyone all the time, at least with regard to the sort of service sector jobs you're talking about. At the other end of the scale, you get to be a salaried employee and work unpaid overtime. Yes, work often sucks.

    2. Yeah, I had shitty summer jobs when I was a teenager and a college student. I worked for my dad's law firm for several summers, it was full time, included everything from office work to cleaning the toilets, and I didn't have the option to quit. I also worked at this restaurant/deli in a touristy area, which was a lot of hours (and they'd do fun scheduling things, like a 6 hour shift from midnight to 6 am and then another the next day from 2 pm to 8 pm). That one I quit.

    3. It's not the end of the world to quit a summer job. You need to base your decision on the factors in your life (How much do you need the money? Are your parents riding your ass about working? What other jobs are out there? Will you need a reference?). As a general rule, it's easiest to find another job when you've already got one, and probably by the middle of the summer (after 2 pay periods, assuming it's biweekly) there will be other places who have lost one of their summer staff and need a replacement.

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  • R.is.for.ReptarR.is.for.Reptar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Thanks for the answers guys and to answer a few questions yes i did put down i only wanted to work 2-3 days of the week and i think ill talk to them today i think the worst of it all though is how unhealthy the lifestyle is now and its strictly my fault because going into this job i have no money and my hours are little before lunch and up to dinner time so i never really get breakfast or lunch and last night i went to the gym and had to leave because i felt horrible i told my friend to drop me off at the corner before my house because i didn't want to throw up in his car but lone behold the second i get out i throw up...idk why i think it because of the stress ive been putting on my mental state and the lack of food this job is the only thing i can think of i try to knock think of it but ill wake up at 1am and look at my clock and sit their for an hour thinking about going to work in 10 hours i think i might have some sort of anxiety disorder idk if its something i should go to my doctor about or not but well ya... lol

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Okay so i finally got around to getting my first job at Rainbow Food and it may be the worst thing i have ever done in my entire life.
    I understand hard work and commitment but honestly this is my first week of work and I'm already pushing 35 hours of work with only 4 hours of training and I've still got a 4 hours shift today.... their putting me at 39 hours my first week.

    (oldman)
    Q fucking Q. In a few more years you're going to have to do that pretty much every week for the next 40 years. Then you get to die.
    (/oldman)

    1. Is this common for companies to do to highschool students in the summer?(pushing their hours 1 hours less than full time)

    2. Has it happened to you?(and how did you deal with it)

    3. Would it look bad if i quite after 1 or 2 paychecks even if i have a legitimate reason?...I'm sure i can make a good one up ;)

    1. Yes. Some high school students like to make money over the summer.

    2. Talk to your manager / whoever is doing the schedule and tell them you would like less hours.

    3. Don't even bother making up anything. Quiting a summer gig isn't going to show up on your permanent record or anything.

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    my hours are little before lunch and up to dinner time so i never really get breakfast or lunch

    Why don't you eat on your break? And you should be eating breakfast regardless. If you're not eating breakfast or lunch, then yeah you'll probably feel pretty exhausted throughout your shifts and then even worse after because you've been working for hours with no food.

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  • R.is.for.ReptarR.is.for.Reptar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    i get paid once a week and I'm a cashier and my parents are riding my ass a little bit they essentially forced me to do the application so i never really wanted this job. and i don't really need money for anything except fast food hahaha

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    [snip] i think the worst of it all though is how unhealthy the lifestyle is now and its strictly my fault because going into this job i have no money and my hours are little before lunch and up to dinner time so i never really get breakfast or lunch and last night i went to the gym and had to leave because i felt horrible i told my friend to drop me off at the corner before my house because i didn't want to throw up in his car but lone behold the second i get out i throw up...idk why i think it because of the stress ive been putting on my mental state and the lack of food this job is the only thing i can think of i try to knock think of it but ill wake up at 1am and look at my clock and sit their for an hour thinking about going to work in 10 hours i think i might have some sort of anxiety disorder idk if its something i should go to my doctor about or not but well ya... lol

    This is a joke, right?
    I mean you're not seriously complaining about the stress of 8 hours a day manning a register.

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  • R.is.for.ReptarR.is.for.Reptar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Why don't you eat on your break? And you should be eating breakfast regardless. If you're not eating breakfast or lunch, then yeah you'll probably feel pretty exhausted throughout your shifts and then even worse after because you've been working for hours with no food.

    well i dont count a bowl of cereal as a breakfast its just that sugar crap that my brothers buy and and lunch you have to buy at work so i planned on eating after i get payed maybe it will get better after that

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    39 hours at Rainbow Foods may be more what you're hating. When I was in high school, I tried to up my hours during the summer and never got many more, and then when school started up they always tried to give me too much.

    In Minnesota there's no government classification for full or part time, so as far as the state cares you are just a wage-earning employee (vs. salaried). If you work more than 48 hours in a week, you should legally be paid overtime. Any other classification for your job should be in your employee handbook/documentation. I also believe that most workers at Rainbow are unionized, so you may want to talk to your union rep at your store just to clear up any questions you have.

    As for your questions:
    1. Depends on the company. Some hate the temporary nature of student workers. Others love them because they're temporary.

    2. No, I was always short-changed during the summer. I *wish* it happened to me; I'd have had a lot more money.

    3. You can quit in Minnesota for any reason or no reason. It's a shitty school job and unless you plan to stay in food retail it really won't negatively affect you.

    Of course, this thread begs the question: what else are you planning on doing with your time? If you have a legitimate activity planned, you should have little trouble telling management that you can't work as many hours because of that activity, and then give them that schedule.

    If your plans for the summer were to play a lot of video games, sleep 11 hours a day, and do nothing with friends, you might find that working 30+ hours a week actually makes the rest of the summer more fun because you actually have money -- and actually structure your time.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    i get paid once a week and I'm a cashier and my parents are riding my ass a little bit they essentially forced me to do the application so i never really wanted this job. and i don't really need money for anything except fast food hahaha

    It's because your parents want you to develop some work ethic before you turn into the poster who made a thread resentful about having to work without his parents handing him a job because they didn't prepare him for the real world.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Also you work at a place that is literally overflowing with food.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Why don't you eat on your break? And you should be eating breakfast regardless. If you're not eating breakfast or lunch, then yeah you'll probably feel pretty exhausted throughout your shifts and then even worse after because you've been working for hours with no food.

    well i dont count a bowl of cereal as a breakfast its just that sugar crap that my brothers buy and and lunch you have to buy at work so i planned on eating after i get payed maybe it will get better after that

    Lots of people work 40 hours a week or more and still eat. Wake up early to make breakfast or grab something on the way in. Pack a bag lunch and eat on your lunch break, if you're working over 5 hours in most places you're required to be given at least 15 minutes of break time. When you get home make yourself something for dinner. It doesn't matter if the hours don't line up to meal times because you're better off eating than not.

    Honestly, I can't tell if you have an anxiety issue like you think you may or if you're just lazy and want to fail at this job so you can rub that in your parents' faces over why you shouldn't have started in the first place.

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  • R.is.for.ReptarR.is.for.Reptar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Well i have alot of family vacation and wedding for the next 2 months and i have about 4 weeks straight of boy scout camps so idk if getting a job was a bad idea but im thinking i might have no choice but to quite in the next 2 weeks anyways if they cant change my hours

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  • SipexSipex Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Also, check with your manager. They might overwork you at the start for 'training' which basically means they have you scheduled to work while they can effectively watch you.

    Give it a few months and your hours will probably get cut and you'll complain about not getting ENOUGH. Happens all the time.

    edit: Also, please for the love of god apply sentence breaks or paragraphing. Your posts are hard to read.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Well i have alot of family vacation and wedding for the next 2 months and i have about 4 weeks straight of boy scout camps so idk if getting a job was a bad idea but im thinking i might have no choice but to quite in the next 2 weeks anyways if they cant change my hours

    This is stuff you should have discussed with them before you started working.

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  • R.is.for.ReptarR.is.for.Reptar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    i did but i the person that usually schedules everyone is on vacation so i think their trying to get as much work out of me as they can before im gone alot

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2010
    Either find a new job or deal. On the bright side, you get cash and develop a tolerance for shitty work.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    If I were you I'd man up until your vacation kicks in and be happy to be getting all these hours before your hours drop to nothing or near nothing. Go to your boss and say "Hey, I really appreciate all the hours I'm getting but I just want to make sure that everything is still ok with the days off I requested," if you have concerns about the fill-in scheduler missing something.

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Seriously if you think this is bad I have no words to describe how miserable you are going to be in the next five to ten years.


    edit: also if you want to quit then by all means please do. There are a lot of people that would love to have that job and be ecstatic they got 39 hours in their first week.

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  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    A crappy summer job that you hate is a rite of passage! Congrads!

    To answer your questions directly

    1. The company need to fill shifts, and they may have less people then then need to do that so you get more hours. This is typically an awesome thing!

    2. Absolutely! i dealt with it by sucking it up and commiserating with my fellow slaves to the grind. Some of my best memories come from some of these horrible jobs. Ever cleaned a grease trap in a kitchen that can only be accessed with a small ladle on your belly? Good times!

    3. It depends on how small your town is. I grew up in a very small town so if i quit, getting another job would be difficult as everyone knows where everyone works. You live in a bigger town, no one will care or know.

    Also, EggytToast makes a good point... What were you planning on doing anyway? You will have to sell your soul for $$ sooner or later so why wait?

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  • FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I don't see a problem here, you work, you get paid, or am I missing something here?

    A normal job requires 8 hours per day, that is to say 40 hours a week, unless you signed up a special contract that specifically requires only 16 hours a week.

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  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Oh also, this will all feel so much better once you get your first paycheck and discover that you... Pay taxes!

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  • R.is.for.ReptarR.is.for.Reptar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    okay well im jgonna ust suck it up put my head down and go receive my first paycheck and examine the endorphans of eating as much mcdonalds as i want

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  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I work 60-90 hour weeks. It isn't fun. Neither is 40, to be honest. I recommend doing it for a while so you appreciate your free time, but i'd also try to work less as the summer goes on. Frankly, you have the rest of your life to work. If money isn't a huge issue for you it's much nicer to not work that much now.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    kaliyama wrote: »
    I work 60-90 hour weeks. It isn't fun. Neither is 40, to be honest. I recommend doing it for a while so you appreciate your free time, but i'd also try to work less as the summer goes on. Frankly, you have the rest of your life to work. If money isn't a huge issue for you it's much nicer to not work that much now.
    Seriously. Fuck the haters. If you can afford it, cut down your hours a bunch. Half the people in this thread are just trying to make you miserable because they are. 40 hour work weeks suck, and anyone who tells you otherwise is lying through their fucking teeth. If you don't have to increase the suck in your life, don't.

    I'm not saying 20 hours or so a week is going to hurt you (in fact, a few days a week will keep you busy, and give you spending money for the rest), but you're not going to have very many summers off in your life; you should enjoy the shit out of the ones you do. Take advantage of it while you can.

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  • Protein ShakesProtein Shakes __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    Chanus wrote: »
    2. Yes. It's the real world. You put your head down and work or you quit.

    3. It would look bad to the only people who will know about it (your employer, your parents). You don't have a legitimate reason.

    I disagree with both.

    1. "Suck it up or quit" is not a healthy attitude towards anything. He can talk to his boss and explain his situation, and ask to be given fewer hours.

    2. It wouldn't necessarily look bad, because "wanting to have a life" is not a bad thing, especially not at his age.

    Also:

    Thanatos wrote:
    Seriously. Fuck the haters. If you can afford it, cut down your hours a bunch. Half the people in this thread are just trying to make you miserable because they are. 40 hour work weeks suck, and anyone who tells you otherwise is lying through their fucking teeth. If you don't have to increase the suck in your life, don't.

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Use this experience as motivation to get some qualifications.

    The rest of your life could easily be this shitty unless you make yourself valuable.

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  • Protein ShakesProtein Shakes __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    815165 wrote: »
    Use this experience as motivation to get some qualifications.

    The rest of your life could easily be this shitty unless you make yourself valuable.

    Working at a grocery store isn't much of a qualification.

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  • GihgehlsGihgehls Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Thanks for the answers guys and to answer a few questions yes i did put down i only wanted to work 2-3 days of the week and i think ill talk to them today i think the worst of it all though is how unhealthy the lifestyle is now and its strictly my fault because going into this job i have no money and my hours are little before lunch and up to dinner time so i never really get breakfast or lunch and last night i went to the gym and had to leave because i felt horrible i told my friend to drop me off at the corner before my house because i didn't want to throw up in his car but lone behold the second i get out i throw up...idk why i think it because of the stress ive been putting on my mental state and the lack of food this job is the only thing i can think of i try to knock think of it but ill wake up at 1am and look at my clock and sit their for an hour thinking about going to work in 10 hours i think i might have some sort of anxiety disorder idk if its something i should go to my doctor about or not but well ya... lol

    First, this is a hell of a sentence. I'd give someone 10 bucks to see it diagrammed.

    Second, like Than says, you have the rest of your life to work. Enjoy the summers you do have off. Work a few days so you're not dependent on your parents for cash. Maybe work a summer English class in there too (kidding.)

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Of course you don't want to work somewhere you hate. Apply at places that interest you, you may be surprised. Apply at a gamestop if you like videogames, apply at a skateboard store if you like to skateboard. Apply at Dicks if you like camping/sporting and like to sell overpriced merchandise.

    Edit:
    I also advocate still working. I didn't work until I graduated and I missed 3 great opportunities because I had no work experience. They said I was a shoe-in for the position but they were really worried about my lack of experience. Just be frank that you only want to work part time.

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  • R.is.for.ReptarR.is.for.Reptar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Protein Shakes and Thanatos thanks you for understanding me and you just opened up a desire and courage to tell my boss what i feel and you opened my eyes to the thought of how few summers i have left i cant sit back and work a job i need to have fun =D in a good and productive way maybe i shall make my mother dinner =) thanks guys and thanks for not being the typical miserable forum goer

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  • AdusAdus Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I worked at a Blockbuster part time, but my first week they literally put me at exactly 39 hours and I had the same thoughts as you. I was pretty specific that I was looking for part time only, as well. I didn't say anything because I kinda felt they were just making sure I could handle everything. The next week I was at normal part time 20-25ish hours and it remained that way for as long as I was part time.

    So I guess my point is you're not the only one. Maybe you can just wait for your next schedule first if you don't want to make any noise but I'm sure talking with your supervisor won't hurt either.

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  • R.is.for.ReptarR.is.for.Reptar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    First, this is a hell of a sentence. I'd give someone 10 bucks to see it diagrammed.

    Second, like Than says, you have the rest of your life to work. Enjoy the summers you do have off. Work a few days so you're not dependent on your parents for cash. Maybe work a summer English class in there too (kidding.)
    Okay you got me with that last part i lawled hard

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  • Brodo FagginsBrodo Faggins Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Shogun wrote: »
    Seriously if you think this is bad I have no words to describe how miserable you are going to be in the next five to ten years.


    edit: also if you want to quit then by all means please do. There are a lot of people that would love to have that job and be ecstatic they got 39 hours in their first week.

    This. Sack up or quit, I hear the summer job environment is the worst it's been in decades, and you're complaining about having lots of hours? Really?

    Honestly, if you're going to have this kind of attitude, OP, just quit.

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