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Gaming on a Router?

kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated foraRegistered User regular
edited June 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
Hello!
I am moving into a house. Very exciting. It is a triumph of italo-german modernist bauhaus-style design. An ethernet cord would fucking ruin the optics of where I would have to run it. Are any WIRELESS routers these days posting acceptable packet-loss rates to do things like play DOTA-style games or TF2? Points for ones that are easy to interoperate with macbooks + ipads.


Thanks,
KY

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    KotenkKotenk Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    You mean Wireless router, as in Wi-Fi??

    If so yes, and any being sold in a store will do.

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    kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Kotenk wrote: »
    You mean Wireless router, as in Wi-Fi??

    If so yes, and any being sold in a store will do.

    Really? I felt like I had unacceptable problems with intermittent packet loss maybe 1.0-1.5 years ago with g routers.

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    KotenkKotenk Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    kaliyama wrote: »
    Kotenk wrote: »
    You mean Wireless router, as in Wi-Fi??

    If so yes, and any being sold in a store will do.

    Really? I felt like I had unacceptable problems with intermittent packet loss maybe 1.0-1.5 years ago with g routers.

    Never had any sort of issues ever with any wireless router. It may depend on home/interference.

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    kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Kotenk wrote: »
    kaliyama wrote: »
    Kotenk wrote: »
    You mean Wireless router, as in Wi-Fi??

    If so yes, and any being sold in a store will do.

    Really? I felt like I had unacceptable problems with intermittent packet loss maybe 1.0-1.5 years ago with g routers.

    Never had any sort of issues ever with any wireless router. It may depend on home/interference.

    OK. Thanks.

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    KotenkKotenk Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    That being said, Wireless is prone to issues that wired will never be, such as the aforementioned interference. The odds of it happening is low and there is generally a workaround for each of it, sometimes as simple as just changing the channel your Wifi is on.

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    Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    There is no "super wireless" that is immune to such concerns as interference, and wireless is always going to have more packet loss than wired, but it shouldn't really be a big issue for gaming.

    It's a fairly trivial to run a cord under a rug or a baseboard or even in the wall, though, if you don't mind taking on a weekend project.

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    Shorn Scrotum ManShorn Scrotum Man Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    A G router with custom firmware should be able to handle gaming fine. It all depends on how far away from the router you will be, the materials in between, etc...

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    kitchkitch Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I have a linksys wireless card installed in my desktop that I had to change the firmware on because Vista apparently searches for new networks every 60 seconds, and that was causing some huge packet loss.

    So be aware of things like that unless you have wifi built-in to your computer.

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    kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    A G router with custom firmware should be able to handle gaming fine. It all depends on how far away from the router you will be, the materials in between, etc...

    So just get a buffalo router with OpenWRT?

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    FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    If you don't want wireless and you don't want to run cables, grab an ethernet-over-power kit. It will let you "run" your Internet connection through an electrical outlet.

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    Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    wait, really?

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    Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Huh, elementary googling tells me such a thing does exist. How does the speed/latency on those kits compare to an actual ethernet cable?

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    mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Going back to wireless, I've found that it's generally the wireless card that's the issue, not the router. Basically you've got your antenna right up by a lot of noisy shit, and that doesn't help for packet loss. So in my house I use two routers, one set up as my base (and hooked to the internet) and the other set up as a bridge. So all the stuff in the living room (computer, consoles) is hooked by wire to the second "bridge" router, which then connects to the base.

    I have no problems. I always have fantastic signal, too (especially compared to may laptop).

    The other benefit is that your wireless bandwidth is divided up by devices connected...so if your Wii, 360, and HTPC are all connected wirelessly, it's getting divided three times. But using one router as a bridge means that all three are counted as just one wireless device (the bridge). Spiffy.

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    RisenPhoenixRisenPhoenix SUPER HOTRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Dyscord wrote: »
    Huh, elementary googling tells me such a thing does exist. How does the speed/latency on those kits compare to an actual ethernet cable?

    I currently use one of these to connect all my gaming consoles to the internet as my house layout just doesn't allow for a CAT-5 to be run into the living room. I haven't noticed any latency issues or problems downloading demos e.t.c, and it really is as simple as plugging it into the wall.

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    Chases Street DemonsChases Street Demons Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Dyscord wrote: »
    Huh, elementary googling tells me such a thing does exist. How does the speed/latency on those kits compare to an actual ethernet cable?

    I currently use one of these to connect all my gaming consoles to the internet as my house layout just doesn't allow for a CAT-5 to be run into the living room. I haven't noticed any latency issues or problems downloading demos e.t.c, and it really is as simple as plugging it into the wall.

    Internal server error. Got another link?

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    FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Dyscord wrote: »
    Huh, elementary googling tells me such a thing does exist. How does the speed/latency on those kits compare to an actual ethernet cable?

    Not as fast as wired, apparently. I notice no latency, from playing games online to streaming movies.

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    KrubicksCubeKrubicksCube Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I've never noticed any notable lag problems or anything playing on our very shitty wireless router, so if you get something halfway decent, you should be absolutely fine.

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    FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=533

    This is the ethernet-over-power kit I use and it's great. No setup at all.

    - Plug one unit into an outlet beside the router.
    - Connect it to the router with an ethernet cable
    - Plug the other unit into an outlet beside whatever device you want Internet to go to.
    - Connect it to the device with an ethernet cable

    Be sure you're buying ethernet-over-power and not power-over-ethernet. Two separate kits with very separate uses.

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    SoggychickenSoggychicken Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Make sure you don't have a microwave between where your router and your computer. It may disconnect you every time you cook something.

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    ArrathArrath Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Wow that ethernet over power thing looks great. But the wiring in my place is split up into a bunch of circuits, I have to assume that'd screw the pooch, wouldn't it?

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    Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Arrath wrote: »
    Wow that ethernet over power thing looks great. But the wiring in my place is split up into a bunch of circuits, I have to assume that'd screw the pooch, wouldn't it?

    This is actually something I wondered, about, too.

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