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[Planescape: Torment] What can change the nature of a man?

ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
edited May 2011 in Games and Technology
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So what happens in a world where you have a Near-Zombie Multiple-Personality Disorder Immortal
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A horny floating skull that wants to have necrophillic sex with fem-zombies
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A self doubting githzerai who must *know* things that are *known*
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A Tiefling thief with a smart mouth and and a oddly alluring tail
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A batshit fucking cuckoo pyromaniac on steroids.
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A chaste succubus who wont fuck your soul out but would certainly satiate your intellectual lusts.
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A giant living garbage can
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And whatever the hell this fucking thing is
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In a city where collective belief becomes reality, Portals can exist in the damdest places and launch you anywhere in the planes, that is constantly re-arranging itself as various factions fight and whine under the watchful eyes of The Lady of Pain?

Why, one of the best games in the history of man kind.

Sure, its 11 years old, and isometric, and does not have any fancy smancy digital 3dmofiying shader vertex shells of imagry, but it dosnt need that shit. If you think it does you just need to bugger off before I make a deadder outa ye an sell ya body to the dusties for some jink

There is another page with a lot of planescape mods, but it also contains no-cd patches. The game is 11 years old, but I'm erring on the side of caution and not posting a link to the page for the sake of my infraction count and immortal soul.

So, lets all talk about how we love this game.

MODS
Infinity Engine Resolution Enhancer
For Infinity Engine games, like Planescape Torment, can be used to increase the resolution the game runs at.

Planescape:Torment Fix Pack
Supposedly fixes a lot of bugs, typos and restores lost content. I've never used it, No opinions on it.

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  • TKaneTKane Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    You know the guy on the cover? That guy, right there? Swear to god years ago that guy tried to sell me weed outside a Stater Brother's grocery store.

    I wonder if I had toked up with him, if I'd wind up in the Lady's Shadow.

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  • Space CoyoteSpace Coyote Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    And whatever the hell this fucking thing is
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    Nordom is a fearsome cubic warrior!

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  • TKaneTKane Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    And whatever the hell this fucking thing is
    nordom.jpg

    Nordom is a fearsome cubic warrior!

    One could say he's...
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  • VeganVegan Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I really wish GOG would get on this. It's near the top, if not AT the top, of their request list.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Vegan wrote: »
    I really wish GOG would get on this. It's near the top, if not AT the top, of their request list.

    System Shock, System Shock 2, and Planescape Torment have held the top three positions since gog.com launched.

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  • JohnDoeJohnDoe Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Still the best RPG ever made.

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  • KingthlayerKingthlayer Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Updated my journal...

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Vegan wrote: »
    I really wish GOG would get on this. It's near the top, if not AT the top, of their request list.

    I think it's in IP/publisher hell, unfortunately. Either that or WotC doesn't want to sell it because they've discontinued Planescape as a property. It is, however, available on Gametap. People using x64 operating systems need not apply.

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  • DarksierDarksier Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I still remember seeing the trailer for this game long before it released and I thought it was some sort of Myst like game. It's still an awesome trailer.

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  • BullioBullio Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Played through it for the first time about 2 months ago. The combat and UI are aggravatingly outdated. They really made me appreciate the heavy dependence on conversation and dialogue resolution. I'm not sure I could say anything about the story and the writing that haven't been said better by others. It's a shame so few games have really come close in either department since.

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  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    When I was rebuying the BG collection, amazon had this and the IWD collection at reasonable prices.

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  • EntriechEntriech ? ? ? ? ? Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    This is my favorite CRPG ever, and the reason I will always love Chris Avellone no matter what other gamecrimes he might commit.

    What can change the nature of a man?

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Terrible combat and UI, OUTSTANDING EVERYTHING ELSE EVER

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  • DrunkMcDrunkMc Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I'm getting tired of hearing how good this game is without a way for me to pay then download then play the fucking thing!!!

    Until Steam or GOG.com lets me do that; I'm going on the record as saying this game is shit and not worth playing and you're all fucking liars!!!

    ....but really, I want to play this and see what the hub-bub is about. :oops:

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    eBay's your best bet, legality wise

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  • chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    It has an awesome intro as well:

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  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I hate to be that guy, but this game really needs a remake. The script, voice acting and dialogue choices should remain completly untouched, the character designs should be changed as little as possible, but everything else should be trashed and redone. It has not held up visually at all, and the combat is a total chore.

    Use the engine from The Witcher, just add the option to pause the combat at any point.

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  • chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I hate to be that guy, but this game really needs a remake. The script, voice acting and dialogue choices should remain completly untouched, the character designs should be changed as little as possible, but everything else should be trashed and redone. It has not held up visually at all, and the combat is a total chore.

    Use the engine from The Witcher, just add the option to pause the combat at any point.

    I'm not sure what you're claiming to be "that guy" about. I don't think anyone here would disagree that the graphics aren't exactly stellar for 2010 and that the combat leaves something to be desired, or that people would love a remake.

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  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I hate to be that guy, but this game really needs a remake. The script, voice acting and dialogue choices should remain completly untouched, the character designs should be changed as little as possible, but everything else should be trashed and redone. It has not held up visually at all, and the combat is a total chore.

    Use the engine from The Witcher, just add the option to pause the combat at any point.

    I'm not sure what you're claiming to be "that guy" about. I don't think anyone here would disagree that the graphics aren't exactly stellar for 2010 and that the combat leaves something to be desired, or that people would love a remake.

    I'm saying that it, compared to current games, is not worth playing in its present state.

    Games just don't age well.

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  • ronrabronrab Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Me and my friend always had the theory The Nameless One originally was
    the original incarnation of Vecna.

    Given the character's enormous power, essentially undead status, the number of items 'of Vecna' in the game, and how bits of him (both spiritual and physical) tend to come to life on their own, I still think this makes a lot of sense.

    At several points you have the chance to re-attach old parts of your body for extra powers, which just reaffirms the idea (it's been years since I played, but I recall the finger and tooth offhand.)

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    ronrab wrote: »
    Me and my friend always had the theory The Nameless One originally was
    the original incarnation of Vecna.

    Given the character's enormous power, essentially undead status, the number of items 'of Vecna' in the game, and how bits of him (both spiritual and physical) tend to come to life on their own, I still think this makes a lot of sense.

    At several points you have the chance to re-attach old parts of your body for extra powers, which just reaffirms the idea (it's been years since I played, but I recall the finger and tooth offhand.)
    the finger isnt part of your body, its just some mages finger that you get if you let some crazy cannibal eat chunks of meat off you. It has a cursed ring on it, that you attach to yourself to release from the finger.

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  • l337CrappyJackl337CrappyJack Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    ronrab wrote: »
    Me and my friend always had the theory The Nameless One originally was
    the original incarnation of Vecna.

    Given the character's enormous power, essentially undead status, the number of items 'of Vecna' in the game, and how bits of him (both spiritual and physical) tend to come to life on their own, I still think this makes a lot of sense.

    At several points you have the chance to re-attach old parts of your body for extra powers, which just reaffirms the idea (it's been years since I played, but I recall the finger and tooth offhand.)
    the finger isnt part of your body, its just some mages finger that you get if you let some crazy cannibal eat chunks of meat off you. It has a cursed ring on it, that you attach to yourself to release from the finger.
    You were that mage.

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  • corin7corin7 San Diego, CARegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    JohnDoe wrote: »
    Still the best RPG ever made.

    If not best game... still my favorite I believe. Such amazing characters. I want to spend more time with all of them.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    The best RPG that's impossible to get a copy of for less than $texas, rather. :(

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  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    After trying to play this through Gametap a few years ago and having my save game corrupted ten-or-so hours in more than once, I finally gave up and bought it this spring. I'll agree with everyone else here that the combat is horrible, although the only place that it really shows is in the late game, when you're
    traveling around the other planes, especially Curst and the Outlands, which are nothing but one battle after another.

    They could have deleted that whole section from the game with little problem
    especially the prison break in Curst
    . If they had just done that, the combat wouldn't have been nearly so tedious.

    The two walls of text, when you meet
    Ravel and The Transcendent One
    , are among the greatest scenes in gaming.
    What can change the nature of a man?
    Regret.

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  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Oh, and if anyone is looking to buy a copy, it was re-released in the UK last year. Amazon.co.uk has it for under $20 before shipping.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I hate to be that guy, but this game really needs a remake. The script, voice acting and dialogue choices should remain completly untouched, the character designs should be changed as little as possible, but everything else should be trashed and redone. It has not held up visually at all, and the combat is a total chore.

    Use the engine from The Witcher, just add the option to pause the combat at any point.

    I'm not sure what you're claiming to be "that guy" about. I don't think anyone here would disagree that the graphics aren't exactly stellar for 2010 and that the combat leaves something to be desired, or that people would love a remake.

    I'm saying that it, compared to current games, is not worth playing in its present state.

    Games just don't age well.

    Can't say I agree with this. The combat isn't good, but it's also very very easy. I tend to just brute force my way through as a Warrior, putting nearly zero thought into fights and have no trouble.

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Hedgethorn wrote: »
    Oh, and if anyone is looking to buy a copy, it was re-released in the UK last year. Amazon.co.uk has it for under $20 before shipping.

    Oh my god.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Will UK PC games run on US PCs?

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  • Rodent242Rodent242 Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Will UK PC games run on US PCs?

    You have to set your keyboard to spanish! ( Yes, yes they do. And no, no you don't )

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    It's a good thing I'm bilingual!

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    IMMORTALITY IS ONLY A WORD. ALL THAT EXISTS CAN DIE. EVERY LIVING THING HAS A WEAPON AGAINST WHICH IT HAS NO DEFENSE. TIME. DISEASE. IRON. GUILT.
    START WITH A FRAGMENT OF THE ENEMY. A DROP OF BLOOD. A CRYSTALLIZED THOUGHT. ONE OF THEIR HOPES. ALL OF THESE THINGS TELL THE WAY IT CAN DIE.

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  • chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    I hate to be that guy, but this game really needs a remake. The script, voice acting and dialogue choices should remain completly untouched, the character designs should be changed as little as possible, but everything else should be trashed and redone. It has not held up visually at all, and the combat is a total chore.

    Use the engine from The Witcher, just add the option to pause the combat at any point.

    I'm not sure what you're claiming to be "that guy" about. I don't think anyone here would disagree that the graphics aren't exactly stellar for 2010 and that the combat leaves something to be desired, or that people would love a remake.

    I'm saying that it, compared to current games, is not worth playing in its present state.

    Games just don't age well.

    Can't say I agree with this. The combat isn't good, but it's also very very easy. I tend to just brute force my way through as a Warrior, putting nearly zero thought into fights and have no trouble.

    Also, I think, if you know what you're doing, its possible to only have to win like 2 fights the entire game, if you wish to go that route.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Well, thread, you've convinced me to make up for the mistake I made almost a decade ago in not picking up this amazing game (my excuse being my English was mediocre at best back then).

    Now, the trick is where to find it....Amazon first, I guess.

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  • Kristmas KthulhuKristmas Kthulhu Currently Kultist Kthulhu Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    This should be in the OP. It's a step-by-step list for how to do a full install of the game, get higher resolutions without weird interface bugs, and includes links to resources such as the fixpack and the restored content patches.

    I just got around to starting a new game about a week ago with the fixpack and I can already see where some of the differences have been made. It is thoroughly legit, and I'm pretty sure the guy who made it was even in email contact with one of the developers from PS:T.

    It doesn't fudge up the story, but restores content and seems like it's intended to be played even if it's your first time with Torment.

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  • ThetherooThetheroo Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    When the injustice is great enough, justice will lend me the strength needed to correct it. None may stand against it. It will shatter every barrier, sunder any shield, tear through any enchantment, and lend its servant the power to pass sentence. Know this: There is nothing on all the Planes that can stay the hand of justice when it is brought against them. It may unmake armies. It may sunder the thrones of gods. Know that for all who betray justice, I am their fate. And fate carries an executioner's axe.

    This game had the best NPC's ever, and to this day remains my favorite game of all time. I really want to do a Let's Play, but I know that I will have no chance in hell of doing it proper justice.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I wonder what people would think of me LPing this game blind after I finish SMT2. I wouldn't mind that.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    There is a really good LP of Torment on SomethingAwful. It's still in progress I believe, the author is ShadowCatBoy (Yeah I don't know either. I think he lost a bet). His narration is wonderful

    http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2206352

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Ah, never mind then. SA always stealing my thunder!

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Edited my post to include a link. Enjoy.

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