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Just switched to Chrome; help me not see it as a mistake
HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
Last night I decided to nix Firefox and get Google Chrome, and did so. Bookmarks were imported all neatly and now my next question is this - now what?
I know that Chrome allows for extensions, and I was wondering if there were any related to security that I should be getting ASAP. My two biggest concerns are extensions that are like Ad-block Plus and No-Script.
My big concern overall is in regard to how pages are loading on Chrome. I'm having to hit stop, and then try to load the page again - like for this thread, this is the second time I'm in the Post New Thread page and I'm hoping this time it'll actually submit instead of just stay on "Waiting for" the forum's address. What the heck is causing this?
Also, I can't get Facebook to load properly on Chrome - all I can get is the very top toolbar. Anyone got any ideas?
I like adthwart for ad blocking in chrome. I also like adding the bookmarks button next to the page icon, but apparently they're taking it away in upcoming versions.
FF 4.0 looks like it's cribbing stuff from all the other browsers, so I might just end up switching back to that. It's an arms race to a similar feature set across browsers; even IE9 is looking like it will shape up nicely.
Not Security but useful Change Colors PDF Viewer (opens PDFs with google docs rather then acrobat, MUCH FASTER
I don't think there is a no-script type script for Chrome yet. But I could be wrong, i don't use those myself since they tend to interfere with coding when I'm doing that.
Chrome is so much faster than all the other browsers that I forsake mouse gestures and adblock to use it-- but just recently I found an adblock and mouse gestures for it so now it's doubly love.
no script functionality is built in using the Content Settings button.
A note, Chrome's Adthwart/Adblock Plus for Chrome don't stop chrome from loading the ad, just displaying it. So you don't get the same bandwidth or security benefits (but also I think you don't screw over the ad revenue for the sites you are visiting).
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
edited July 2010
What does it mean to allow an extension to "run in incognito"?
What does it mean to allow an extension to "run in incognito"?
Incognito mode (affectionately known as porn mode) is the same as Firefox private browsing in that your history, cookies, etc won't be saved. Some chrome extensions don't work in incognito mode, some do.
I use xmarks to sync my bookmarks across all browsers.
But really, I like chrome for a lot of reasons that aren't extensions:
much faster/snappier than firefox, seems to multitask better, starts quicker, etc
UI is much more space-efficient than firefox while making access to the controls I actually use more easy (tabs and anything to do with them)
doesn't get brought down by a single tab getting fucked up
pinning tabs (I know you can do this in firefox - with an extension)
combined search and address bar (I find it easier than having to think about where I'm typing)
ability to have bookmarks bar only appear on new tab page to save space on smaller screens without completely giving up access to my bookmarks bar
basically I find Chrome boils down all the small touches I want out of a browser, and is faster and more stable while doing it.
Firefox 4 appearently uses 6 rows of pixels less than Chrome.
Just a fyi.
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
edited July 2010
Okay I found something I don't like about Chrome.
In the post boxes on this forum, you're supposed to be able to hit ctrl+B to bold text, and all that sort of stuff. Chrome just utilizes its own shortcuts. Also when you hit the color box to apply a color to highlighted text, it'll enter RGB code for it (same results but WEIRD AND DIFFERENT). I'm sure this isn't a big deal to most people, but I do a lot of detailed thread making / upkeep and relied on that stuff to operate in how I've come to know it.
Okay I lied about Facebook loading properly, I can't access some of the pages and some of the features don't work properly.
Guys the magical aura that surrounded Chrome is going away EMERGENCY
(the ad-thwart thing works as intended to be fair)
I don't have a Facebook account to test things with, but the stuff I can get to appears to load properly. Are you using the beta channel or the dev channel?
I've never had a problem with Facebook on Chrome, so dunno why it's acting weird for you.
My favorite thing about Chrome is syncing my bookmarks to my gmail account so my work laptop, desktop, and personal netbook all have my bookmarks. I can bookmark stuff at work I don't have time to read, go home and load it up there without having to e-mail myself a link or something.
Outside of that, I like the IU design, but I still like Firefox too. It doesn't really matter too much to me, I just noticed Chrome was a bit faster so I switched.
I use xmarks to sync my bookmarks across all browsers.
But really, I like chrome for a lot of reasons that aren't extensions:
much faster/snappier than firefox, seems to multitask better, starts quicker, etc
UI is much more space-efficient than firefox while making access to the controls I actually use more easy (tabs and anything to do with them)
doesn't get brought down by a single tab getting fucked up
pinning tabs (I know you can do this in firefox - with an extension)
combined search and address bar (I find it easier than having to think about where I'm typing)
ability to have bookmarks bar only appear on new tab page to save space on smaller screens without completely giving up access to my bookmarks bar
basically I find Chrome boils down all the small touches I want out of a browser, and is faster and more stable while doing it.
Firefox 4 appearently uses 6 rows of pixels less than Chrome.
Just a fyi.
Yeah I'm looking forward to it. Though I tend to use firefox primarily for tree style tabs (documentation reading) and firebug, so the overall layout changes are a bit moot. If it can not be brought down by a single infinite javascript loop in a single tab or a plugin, that will be nice.
I've never had a problem with Facebook on Chrome, so dunno why it's acting weird for you.
My favorite thing about Chrome is syncing my bookmarks to my gmail account so my work laptop, desktop, and personal netbook all have my bookmarks. I can bookmark stuff at work I don't have time to read, go home and load it up there without having to e-mail myself a link or something.
Outside of that, I like the IU design, but I still like Firefox too. It doesn't really matter too much to me, I just noticed Chrome was a bit faster so I switched.
This is the primary reason why I love Chrome so much. No more massive bookmark file for me!
A note, Chrome's Adthwart/Adblock Plus for Chrome don't stop chrome from loading the ad, just displaying it. So you don't get the same bandwidth or security benefits (but also I think you don't screw over the ad revenue for the sites you are visiting).
New in version 2.0: Ads are actually BLOCKED FROM DOWNLOADING now, instead of just being removed after the fact!
Note that Chrome doesn't actually support this all the way, so a few resources might still load before AdBlock can get to them, in which case we'll remove those as usual. AdBlock does block resources flawlessly in Safari -- get it at safariadblock.com.
New in 0.9.20: Improved support for blocking ads before they are loaded. (Chrome doesn't yet support one last feature required for this to work 100%, but hopefully it will soon.)
That being said, what's the difference between the two? I'm using Adblock now, but it seems AdThwart has quite a big userbase as well.
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
I'm kind of curious why you decided to make this hard and fast switch instead of just trying both for a while and using whichever one you like more.
It's Henroid, why would you expect any different? :P
Darmak knows how I roll. *fist bump*
Aside from needing to do this to experience change sometimes (diving right in) I changed browsers because Firefox was starting to crash more often. My HDD was making weird click noises whenever I was operating some program or another that's a hog (video games, or iTunes), but when I canned Firefox from being installed, the clicking noise has stopped.
When I think about it, maybe the cache for Firefox was goofed. But it was a change to try something else anyhow.
A note, Chrome's Adthwart/Adblock Plus for Chrome don't stop chrome from loading the ad, just displaying it. So you don't get the same bandwidth or security benefits (but also I think you don't screw over the ad revenue for the sites you are visiting).
New in version 2.0: Ads are actually BLOCKED FROM DOWNLOADING now, instead of just being removed after the fact!
Note that Chrome doesn't actually support this all the way, so a few resources might still load before AdBlock can get to them, in which case we'll remove those as usual. AdBlock does block resources flawlessly in Safari -- get it at safariadblock.com.
New in 0.9.20: Improved support for blocking ads before they are loaded. (Chrome doesn't yet support one last feature required for this to work 100%, but hopefully it will soon.)
That being said, what's the difference between the two? I'm using Adblock now, but it seems AdThwart has quite a big userbase as well.
Do they have a switch so you can pick to let them download and then block them, so they don't mess with revenue streams? I wouldn't mind using the bandwidth at home where I don't come close to the cap.
I've literally never had any problems with Facebook on Chrome, and I've been using it for at least a year on both Windows and OS X.
The forum shortcuts don't work, but I didn't really notice until now because I never use them. Isn't it faster to just type [ b ][ /b ] inline than have to go back and highlight to use a keyboard shortcut?
I've tried several times to change to Chrome since it's lighter on the ol' hardware, but there's always some problem. Either pages don't load correctly, or it freezes among other things.
It doesn't happen all the time, but it hasn't provided the stability I get with Firefox. Not trying to create some sort of browser war, I don't care, it's just that since my PC isn't a supa bomb, I'd like to be able to consume less resources with the browser. Oh well
I've literally never had any problems with Facebook on Chrome, and I've been using it for at least a year on both Windows and OS X.
The forum shortcuts don't work, but I didn't really notice until now because I never use them. Isn't it faster to just type [ b ][ /b ] inline than have to go back and highlight to use a keyboard shortcut?
You can also hit Ctrl+B before typing the word, and not have to go back and highlight anything.
I use xmarks to sync my bookmarks across all browsers.
But really, I like chrome for a lot of reasons that aren't extensions:
much faster/snappier than firefox, seems to multitask better, starts quicker, etc
UI is much more space-efficient than firefox while making access to the controls I actually use more easy (tabs and anything to do with them)
doesn't get brought down by a single tab getting fucked up
pinning tabs (I know you can do this in firefox - with an extension)
combined search and address bar (I find it easier than having to think about where I'm typing)
ability to have bookmarks bar only appear on new tab page to save space on smaller screens without completely giving up access to my bookmarks bar
basically I find Chrome boils down all the small touches I want out of a browser, and is faster and more stable while doing it.
Firefox 4 appearently uses 6 rows of pixels less than Chrome.
Just a fyi.
Yeah I'm looking forward to it. Though I tend to use firefox primarily for tree style tabs (documentation reading) and firebug, so the overall layout changes are a bit moot. If it can not be brought down by a single infinite javascript loop in a single tab or a plugin, that will be nice.
I've been playing with Firefox 4 nightlies on my work install of Vista and my desktop pc at home on XP and it's looking so damn nice.
I keep trying Chrome and there's always something that makes me go "oh god that sucks", it's so fast but its always much too minimalist. For me it's lots of little things, like the google updater, shitty bookmark system, poor add-ons in comparison to Firefox etc. And honestly, I've never liked the omni bar that merges the search and url boxes.. what's the point of that.. a separate search box is so much better and useful.
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I've literally never had any problems with Facebook on Chrome, and I've been using it for at least a year on both Windows and OS X.
The forum shortcuts don't work, but I didn't really notice until now because I never use them. Isn't it faster to just type [ b ][ /b ] inline than have to go back and highlight to use a keyboard shortcut?
That's fine for you, but I try and use my keyboard as little as possible. :rotate:
And honestly, I've never liked the omni bar that merges the search and url boxes.. what's the point of that.. a separate search box is so much better and useful.
I've grown to like it. It's faster to hit CTRL-T and type a search than click into a different box.
And honestly, I've never liked the omni bar that merges the search and url boxes.. what's the point of that.. a separate search box is so much better and useful.
Reduction of choice = increase in user happiness. The functionality is the same, but I don't have to think about whether I'm typing a url or doing a search and click in the appropriate box. Also leaves more room to see the url.
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
I've literally never had any problems with Facebook on Chrome, and I've been using it for at least a year on both Windows and OS X.
The forum shortcuts don't work, but I didn't really notice until now because I never use them. Isn't it faster to just type [ b ][ /b ] inline than have to go back and highlight to use a keyboard shortcut?
I've finally gotten Facebook to sort of work in some regards, but it requires waiting to try again later. The way the browser works, it's like it has this built-in timer for loading pages where if it isn't finished it just stops trying. I've had some instances - whether it's a hiccup in connection or just long loading - where pages just return a "That page doesn't exist" error. Sometimes it's indexes on this forum.
It's all circumstance with me though because of my current connection (dialup; it's a long story). I tweeted last night that Chrome was not built with dialup in mind much like the Empire not having wookiees in mind when they designed her (Chewie), and I'm holding true to that. Which isn't a bad thing. It just means America needs to get cable lines installed everywhere already.
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Monkey Ball WarriorA collection of mediocre hatsSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
edited July 2010
I want to temporarily allow javascript on a webpage in Chrome. The built in javascript blocker/whitelist is nice, but I do miss that part of NoScript.
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And honestly, I've never liked the omni bar that merges the search and url boxes.. what's the point of that.. a separate search box is so much better and useful.
Reduction of choice = increase in user happiness. The functionality is the same, but I don't have to think about whether I'm typing a url or doing a search and click in the appropriate box. Also leaves more room to see the url.
Yeah, but I (like I suspect others) use more than just google for search. I've tried the additional search buttons in Chrome and it's just a user interface kludge.
For example, in Firefox i'll press ctrl+k then keep holding down ctrl and then press on the down arrow to go to what I want to search on.. it's usually pressed once or twice as i've arranged the order of searches as 1. google 2. wikipedia 3. youtube 4. google uk 5. amazon uk etc.
For me that's a really quick and easy way to get to the information I want, with the addons in Chrome (yes, I have to use an addon to get similar'ish functionality in Chrome I can't use shortcuts and it's extra mouse clicks, it isn't particularly intuitive)
Also, this is one thing that has bothered me.. why the obsession on the part of browser makers with the massive url bar? I mean, average users (not us) do not give a flying crap what it says other than the site name.. they don't care about the "showthread.php?p=15686424" bit, the browser should highlight the actual domain of the site and should only show or expand the address when clicked on. Otherwise it's just lots of wasted space.
Some browser makers (like in Firefox 4) have recognised this, hence app tabs.
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FF 4.0 looks like it's cribbing stuff from all the other browsers, so I might just end up switching back to that. It's an arms race to a similar feature set across browsers; even IE9 is looking like it will shape up nicely.
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AdThwart
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Not Security but useful
Change Colors
PDF Viewer (opens PDFs with google docs rather then acrobat, MUCH FASTER
I don't think there is a no-script type script for Chrome yet. But I could be wrong, i don't use those myself since they tend to interfere with coding when I'm doing that.
no script functionality is built in using the Content Settings button.
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But really, I like chrome for a lot of reasons that aren't extensions:
basically I find Chrome boils down all the small touches I want out of a browser, and is faster and more stable while doing it.
Doesn't work for all sites but on these forums you can say goodbye to clicking page numbers to see more threads / posts.
https://tools.google.com/chrome/intl/en/themes/index.html
Oh jesus, how do you remove skins? I clicked the Mariah Carey one to be funny but now I can't get rid of it.
Edit: Nevermind, figured it out.
I wish 95% of those themes didn't actually turn out to be awful in practice. Hello putting tabs on a busy background makes them really hard to read.
Incognito mode (affectionately known as porn mode) is the same as Firefox private browsing in that your history, cookies, etc won't be saved. Some chrome extensions don't work in incognito mode, some do.
Robots Will Be Our Superiors (Blog)
http://michaelhermes.com
https://tools.google.com/chrome/intl/en/themes/theme_at_scottdraves.html
the electric sheep guy. my favorite theme so far.
Firefox 4 appearently uses 6 rows of pixels less than Chrome.
Just a fyi.
In the post boxes on this forum, you're supposed to be able to hit ctrl+B to bold text, and all that sort of stuff. Chrome just utilizes its own shortcuts. Also when you hit the color box to apply a color to highlighted text, it'll enter RGB code for it (same results but WEIRD AND DIFFERENT). I'm sure this isn't a big deal to most people, but I do a lot of detailed thread making / upkeep and relied on that stuff to operate in how I've come to know it.
Edit: And the mouse gesture program I have for Chome is incredibly laggy.
Guys the magical aura that surrounded Chrome is going away EMERGENCY
(the ad-thwart thing works as intended to be fair)
I don't have a Facebook account to test things with, but the stuff I can get to appears to load properly. Are you using the beta channel or the dev channel?
It's Henroid, why would you expect any different? :P
My favorite thing about Chrome is syncing my bookmarks to my gmail account so my work laptop, desktop, and personal netbook all have my bookmarks. I can bookmark stuff at work I don't have time to read, go home and load it up there without having to e-mail myself a link or something.
Outside of that, I like the IU design, but I still like Firefox too. It doesn't really matter too much to me, I just noticed Chrome was a bit faster so I switched.
Yeah I'm looking forward to it. Though I tend to use firefox primarily for tree style tabs (documentation reading) and firebug, so the overall layout changes are a bit moot. If it can not be brought down by a single infinite javascript loop in a single tab or a plugin, that will be nice.
This is the primary reason why I love Chrome so much. No more massive bookmark file for me!
This seems to have changed recently, actually:
That being said, what's the difference between the two? I'm using Adblock now, but it seems AdThwart has quite a big userbase as well.
Darmak knows how I roll. *fist bump*
Aside from needing to do this to experience change sometimes (diving right in) I changed browsers because Firefox was starting to crash more often. My HDD was making weird click noises whenever I was operating some program or another that's a hog (video games, or iTunes), but when I canned Firefox from being installed, the clicking noise has stopped.
When I think about it, maybe the cache for Firefox was goofed. But it was a change to try something else anyhow.
Do they have a switch so you can pick to let them download and then block them, so they don't mess with revenue streams? I wouldn't mind using the bandwidth at home where I don't come close to the cap.
The forum shortcuts don't work, but I didn't really notice until now because I never use them. Isn't it faster to just type [ b ][ /b ] inline than have to go back and highlight to use a keyboard shortcut?
It doesn't happen all the time, but it hasn't provided the stability I get with Firefox. Not trying to create some sort of browser war, I don't care, it's just that since my PC isn't a supa bomb, I'd like to be able to consume less resources with the browser. Oh well
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You can also hit Ctrl+B before typing the word, and not have to go back and highlight anything.
I've been playing with Firefox 4 nightlies on my work install of Vista and my desktop pc at home on XP and it's looking so damn nice.
I keep trying Chrome and there's always something that makes me go "oh god that sucks", it's so fast but its always much too minimalist. For me it's lots of little things, like the google updater, shitty bookmark system, poor add-ons in comparison to Firefox etc. And honestly, I've never liked the omni bar that merges the search and url boxes.. what's the point of that.. a separate search box is so much better and useful.
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That's fine for you, but I try and use my keyboard as little as possible. :rotate:
I've grown to like it. It's faster to hit CTRL-T and type a search than click into a different box.
Robots Will Be Our Superiors (Blog)
http://michaelhermes.com
Reduction of choice = increase in user happiness. The functionality is the same, but I don't have to think about whether I'm typing a url or doing a search and click in the appropriate box. Also leaves more room to see the url.
Damn it TC this is not the answer to the question! <_<
I've finally gotten Facebook to sort of work in some regards, but it requires waiting to try again later. The way the browser works, it's like it has this built-in timer for loading pages where if it isn't finished it just stops trying. I've had some instances - whether it's a hiccup in connection or just long loading - where pages just return a "That page doesn't exist" error. Sometimes it's indexes on this forum.
It's all circumstance with me though because of my current connection (dialup; it's a long story). I tweeted last night that Chrome was not built with dialup in mind much like the Empire not having wookiees in mind when they designed her (Chewie), and I'm holding true to that. Which isn't a bad thing. It just means America needs to get cable lines installed everywhere already.
Yeah, but I (like I suspect others) use more than just google for search. I've tried the additional search buttons in Chrome and it's just a user interface kludge.
For example, in Firefox i'll press ctrl+k then keep holding down ctrl and then press on the down arrow to go to what I want to search on.. it's usually pressed once or twice as i've arranged the order of searches as 1. google 2. wikipedia 3. youtube 4. google uk 5. amazon uk etc.
For me that's a really quick and easy way to get to the information I want, with the addons in Chrome (yes, I have to use an addon to get similar'ish functionality in Chrome I can't use shortcuts and it's extra mouse clicks, it isn't particularly intuitive)
Also, this is one thing that has bothered me.. why the obsession on the part of browser makers with the massive url bar? I mean, average users (not us) do not give a flying crap what it says other than the site name.. they don't care about the "showthread.php?p=15686424" bit, the browser should highlight the actual domain of the site and should only show or expand the address when clicked on. Otherwise it's just lots of wasted space.
Some browser makers (like in Firefox 4) have recognised this, hence app tabs.
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I've got a spare copy of Portal, if anyone wants it message me.