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Is Paypal safe?

AirAir Registered User regular
edited July 2010 in Social Entropy++
im making a thread about this in h/a so feel free to shit all over this if you like
but since im asking the forums for advice i figure i might as well ask my forums

basically if you are selling shit and getting paid through paypal, is it especially safe or is it easy to get scammed

ill put up the h/a post when its done, but the short version is we are selling a car and got a suspicious response, requesting paypal as the preferred payment method
suspicious because they talk about buying the car, almost sight unseen (someone else checking the car for them), and shipping it to england, where these cars are probably cheap and plentiful (we live in australia)
also they are offshore at the moment and unable to access a bank for a transfer, hence the use of paypal

now this thing sounds a bit weird anyway, but im just wondering about paypal scams
if i get the money sent in advance, before the car is collected from me, how are they going to fuck me over
how would you fuck me over?

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  • IpseDixitIpseDixit Treat me like a pirate And give me that bootyRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    That is a classic scam

    Unless you are selling a million dollar Ferrari all requests to ship your car overseas is a scam

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  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    paypal seems pretty legit aside from some unsavory fees for converting currencies, i dont think itll be a problem if you get paid in advance

    e: ooooh, misread, yeah, dont SEND the car anywhere

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Yeah, just make sure you *get* all the money before paying any kind of money, and Paypal should protect you. Don't try and pay any up-front "processing fees".

    With that being said it does sound a bit like a scam.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    In other news, you have just inherited $30,000,000.

    I'm going to need $5,000 in legal fees to get you the money though.

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  • Meta T. DustMeta T. Dust Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    is it secret

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  • MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Vereta-I mean Scam thread

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  • M.D.M.D. and then what happens? Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    If you're ever in africa never accept gold dust to take back to america

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  • GeoMitchGeoMitch Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
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  • IpseDixitIpseDixit Treat me like a pirate And give me that bootyRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    When you go to the Cars and Trucks for sale area of craigslist this is right at the top of the page

    OFFERS TO SHIP CARS ARE 100% FRAUDULENT

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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    oh wait i forgot the part where she will apparently take care of all the shipping stuff herself
    finding a company, paying shipping costs etc

    i mean she says that now
    few more emails and im sure shell be having some problems covering that

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Air wrote: »
    oh wait i forgot the part where she will apparently take care of all the shipping stuff herself
    finding a company, paying shipping costs etc

    i mean she says that now
    few more emails and im sure shell be having some problems covering that

    just best her to the punch

    tell her you need to pay a withholding charge on the car and that you need $1000 by the end of the week to secure the car's export shipping papers

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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Rolo wrote: »
    Yeah, just make sure you *get* all the money before paying any kind of money, and Paypal should protect you. Don't try and pay any up-front "processing fees".

    With that being said it does sound a bit like a scam.

    this is the main question
    is there a chance that she could lodge a dispute, or be using stolen accounts or something that might result in paypal trying to take the money back

    i think ive heard about fake disputes before, people claiming shit never arrived, or sellers getting their laptops or whatever returned and theres just some rocks in a box

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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    but what if you try to scam a scammer and they call the cops

    i mean i only got like one or two fake ids to hide behind

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I like how this doesn't actually have anything to do with Paypal in terms of whether or not it's a scam.

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  • Zombies Tossed My Salad!Zombies Tossed My Salad! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    The answer is no if you have to ask the question

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  • LucentLucent Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    What is going on in here? Everyone put their pants back on right this minute!

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  • Zombies Tossed My Salad!Zombies Tossed My Salad! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I never had any on in the first place!

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  • LucentLucent Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Cad!

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  • FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I know a guy who paid for university by importing cars from Japan, sight unseen.

    He imported 3 cars, individually. So long as it was less than 3 in a ten year period, there was a legal loophole where he could claim it for personal use and avoid paying corporate importer tax rates. Because the cars were from Japan, he could also avoid GST or VAT or whatever and get a good deal. And because he imported upper-market cars (Toyota Celica, etc) the price difference between the used market for that in Japan versus here at the time meant he could drive around in a sports car for a year, and still flog it off for enough profit to pay his Uni fees and ship the next car.

    He still had to have a job to pay for gas and food, though.

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Paypal took my wife,my kids,my house and my dignity.

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  • BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    So Paypal married your wife after she divorced you?

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  • FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    To be fair, the wife and kids took your dignity first.

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  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Air wrote: »
    also they are offshore at the moment and unable to access a bank for a transfer, hence the use of paypal
    This sounds a bit strange.

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    BYToady wrote: »
    So Paypal married your wife after she divorced you?

    When I was jailed Paypal moved into my house and comforted my wife,made my kid hate me and paid some burly men to make me pick up the soap.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Paypal can be pretty shitty.

    Firstly they are a private business that have so many loop holes in their clauses they bassically can do whatever they want (including taking money out of your credit card).

    Secondly when there are disputes 95% of the time they side with the buyer.

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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    its that siding with the buyer thing that worries me

    i mean any unnecessary exposition during a purchase is shifty but what if a dude is like 'yea cool ill take it' and then disputes something later

    pretend that instead of a car and a large sum of money you are just selling something small like back alley blowjobs
    but then i guess you wouldnt use paypal for that
    that iphone credit card reader would be a better solution

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  • Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    its a scam

    they've already added a couple hooks with the stated offshore complications

    as you continue to respond with interest they'll throw the main hook where they need some money first

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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    yea it doesnt matter
    plus i just found out the initial message she got was followed by another one that was eerily similar
    now im just wondering if we politely decline or get rude or string them along for a while or just ignore them

    the thing with paypal mainly came because they asked us for paypal account information
    just the username and email or whatever
    and my mother was wondering if its safe to give that information out
    i assume yes? as long as its not passwords
    but she doesnt have one anyway so its moot
    also wondering what they might want with that paypal info now, unless its just to say 'hey look we are gonna pay you now seriously bro'

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Yeah when they start off with I am from far away want your product and will pay a large amount with THIS PAYMENT plant is pretty much always a scam.

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  • Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    best way to deal with scammers is just to cut all correspondence and ignore them

    i don't know anything about paypal

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Ebay owns paypal


    If you think it's a scam just drop it and move on

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  • GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Paypal itself is legit.

    People use paypal for scams all the time.

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  • YoSoyTheWalrusYoSoyTheWalrus Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Clearly you need to fuck with this person as hard as you can and post the email thread on internet so we can all make the laffs.

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