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The New Reading/Book Thread: With That Same Ol' Bad Taste!

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  • animal companionanimal companion xenomortis Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    I might pick up that Atheism - A Brief Insight to us as a loaner. Don't really think I need to read about atheist spirituality, though - I got my shit figured out already. :P

    the intro to the book basically says it is designed with loaning to the believer in mind so it really is great for that purpose

    atheist spirituality is a really fun and humane read, even if you got errything figured out!

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  • SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Peen wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure good pulp falls under the porn test; you can't define it but you know it when you see it. That's how I feel about junk reading in general, everybody's got stuff they link and stuff they don't, there's no reason to look down on someone for their junk reading.

    Now if they start to say it's "good" or has some literary merit, that you can flog someone for.

    Isn't porn media of people banging/masturbating?




    what

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  • animal companionanimal companion xenomortis Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    i'm pretty sure that puts like 85% of romantic comedies in the porn category

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Never mind. I meant explicit camera zoomed in on the genitals banging. Duh.

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  • YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Never mind. I meant explicit camera zoomed in on the genitals banging. Duh.

    ha

    ahahahahahahahahaha

    ahahahahahahaahahahaahahaha

    ahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha



    sorry I'm done now

    ...

    pffffffttttahahahahahaahahahaahahaah

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Ok, I just finished V.

    My brain is paining. Seriously. I have a feeling I'm going to be ruminating upon this book for a long, long time. It was fucking extraordinary.

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  • ProbadProbad Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    So I know there is at least one Nabokov junkie lurking around here, and even for people like me with only a peripheral knowledge of his works, this seems pretty interesting. A publisher is looking to release "Pale Fire," the poem within Pale Fire as a standalone work ostensibly written by John Shade.

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    och, strange

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'm around half-way through The Information by Martin Amis. I'm enjoying it enough; it's funny, and it feels completely devoid of cliche, but I can't help but feel it's Saul Bellow lite.

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I got a Kindle! Now my thriftiness from using the library extensively the past few months will go out the window!

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I saw a kindle once.

    It looks totally sweet.

    Is it totally sweet?

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    It is pretty sweet. The size and weight are just perfect, I have the regular edition.

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  • zimfanzimfan Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I finished Bright Lights, Big City a few hours ago, it was hilarious

    now I'm reading Hopscotch by Julio Cortázar

    it's boggling my mind

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    The Gone Away World was exactly as good as advertised, which is to say excellent.
    At first I wasn't sure about the structure, what with starting in the bar and then taking the next 300 pages to set the story, but that made the big reveal about the narrator that much more effective. I mean when they drive up the house and it's not his wife and then the drive and he gets shot and thrown out of the truck, holy cow.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    The Wind-up Bird Chronicle looks pretty damn good. I flipped through a couple of pages at the bookstore the other day. I bought Ghostopolis with my coupon that week.

    Is this a good place to start with Murakami?

    What is a good place to start with Pynchon? I have read about him, prompted by one of the characters in Fraction and Ba's Casanova claiming to be him; but I have not read any of his works.

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Having only read Gravity's Rainbow, I can say, do not start with Gravity's Rainbow, for Pynchon.

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    You can't go wrong with The Crying of Lot 49, it's where a lot of people start with Pynchon.

    Reading this next:
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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Reading In Cold Blood right now

    I love the way Capote writes. It's also one of the most important pieces of investigatory journalism and entertainment mystery ever

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  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Slowly making my way through Faithful Place by tana French. I am loving the book, but have been pressed for reading time boo. Love me a well-written mystery book, and her previous two books were excellente

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    The Wind-up Bird Chronicle looks pretty damn good. I flipped through a couple of pages at the bookstore the other day. I bought Ghostopolis with my coupon that week.

    Is this a good place to start with Murakami?

    What is a good place to start with Pynchon? I have read about him, prompted by one of the characters in Fraction and Ba's Casanova claiming to be him; but I have not read any of his works.

    Start with Hard Boiled Wonderland at the End of The World or The Elephant Vanishes. I couldn't get into Wind-up Bird.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Fandyien wrote: »
    The Wind-up Bird Chronicle looks pretty damn good. I flipped through a couple of pages at the bookstore the other day. I bought Ghostopolis with my coupon that week.

    Is this a good place to start with Murakami?

    What is a good place to start with Pynchon? I have read about him, prompted by one of the characters in Fraction and Ba's Casanova claiming to be him; but I have not read any of his works.

    Start with Hard Boiled Wonderland at the End of The World or The Elephant Vanishes. I couldn't get into Wind-up Bird.

    I didn't make it to the store, but my wife did, and called me on my dinner break. She asked what book I wanted with the coupon we had (40%) and I told her Wind-Up Bird. I liked the cover illustration and it seemed interesting.

    So I have that to read, and Dick's Voices from the Street. And I should finish Catch-22 this weekend.

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  • laughingfuzzballlaughingfuzzball Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
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    Fandyien wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    I love Dune

    The first movie with Patrick Stewart and Sting and oh Gosh I love it

    My Dad and my brother were all about this movie, and I couldn't stand to watch it once. I haven't read the book yet, it was just too damn bizarre and weird.

    Read the book, watch the movie, and marvel at the depths of it's radness

    Or I will hunt you down

    You know, I was going to buy a book by this Murakami guy you dudes rave about, but I have been meaning to read Dune for several years. I know my brother has a ton of Dune books, and I think he left them at our parents' place when he shipped out for the Navy. I will see if my parents can find the first one, as I have a nice vacation coming up soon.

    I bought him Hyperion, and have yet to read it, so I will see if that can be located too.

    Don't bother with any Dune books that say Brian Herbert on the cover.

    Don't bother with any Dune books that aren't Dune.
    Children is kinda ok, but God Emperor is just plain terrible...the protagonist is completely unrelatable.
    I really like them, but I love political sci-fi and the setting was just so delicious. So, I am basically the target audience. Also, which protagonist are you talking about? Duncan or Leto II? Because, you're not really supposed to relate to Leto II by then. That was kind of the point. Dude gave up his humanity to save...uh, humanity.

    As for Brian Herbert: it's really fucking ironic that he was the one to coin the term "talifan".
    Leto was the unrelatable one. If you want an inhuman protagonist, he should still be relatable in some way. If you want an unrelatable prominent character, he should not be written as a protagonist.

    Duncan was just dull, especially compared to the original.

    I've never bothered with any of Brian's stuff-- if the original author couldn't write sequels (to be fair, the ending of the original would be kinda hard to follow-up), I'm not going to put much faith in his kid. What I know of them hasn't done much to make me reconsider.

    God this.

    Every Dune book went downhill after Dune. I can't even bring myself to finish Chaperhouse and I re-read Dune every Year or so.

    Every time I read Dune it's less something I enjoy for my own sake and more something I enjoy for the sake of a younger me.

    Does that make me old?

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  • ioloiolo iolo Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Dublo7 wrote: »
    Ok, I just finished V.

    My brain is paining. Seriously. I have a feeling I'm going to be ruminating upon this book for a long, long time. It was fucking extraordinary.

    <3
    Peen wrote: »
    The Gone Away World was exactly as good as advertised, which is to say excellent.
    At first I wasn't sure about the structure, what with starting in the bar and then taking the next 300 pages to set the story, but that made the big reveal about the narrator that much more effective. I mean when they drive up the house and it's not his wife and then the drive and he gets shot and thrown out of the truck, holy cow.

    <3
    What is a good place to start with Pynchon? I have read about him, prompted by one of the characters in Fraction and Ba's Casanova claiming to be him; but I have not read any of his works.

    The Crying of Lot 49, as Peen said, is the classic answer to this. Since Inherent Vice came out last summer, though, I think that's as good an entry point.

    I finished Kraken. It was pretty great. Dense and fantastic and twisty with an ending just coherent enough to be satisfying (although you don't really read Mieville for his endings.) The whole thing is kind of a mash-up of Perdido Street Station and The City & The City (as viewed through Jacques Cousteau colored glasses!) in that it takes place in a dense urban environment that has layers upon layers of politics, economics and weirdness. The life you thought you were living, your reality, is just one stolen squid away from unraveling entirely.

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  • simosimo Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    inherent vice is a good starting point because of its length (right between lot 49 and his longer works) and its subject matter (1960s california, so if you're american you'll most likely get many more of the references than in some of his other works)

    on the same note, i just finished part 1 of 2666, which i know drew a lot of pynchon comparisons

    i like it so far. i assume by the comparisons and the back cover summary that there are many more characters to be introduced, but bolano doesn't throw them all at you at once like pynchon does, which is nice

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Has anyone here read The City trilogy? Online reviews say it's decent, but I didn't really understand what it's about.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Thanks for the suggestions regarding Pynchon.

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I am reading Catch-22 for the first time ever

    I did not like it at first (I only have so much patience for chortling at bureaucracy and the military, although I do get the sense that I would appreciate Catch-22's version of that if Catch-22 itself hadn't spawned so many books and movies in the same style! this is always a complicated problem) but I am further in now and it is getting much better

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    It has taken me forever to read Catch-22 for some reason. I'm not sure why. I think the amount of characters, and the endless layers of bullshit bureaucracy is overwhelming. I usually enjoy my time reading it, but I get confused.

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  • celandinecelandine Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    So, reading!

    Read The Possessed, by Elif Batuman. It's about going to grad school for Russian literature. I... do not regret not going to grad school for Russian literature. But it's very funny.

    Someone in the D&D thread told me to read The Alchemist. Couldn't get more than a few pages in; it just seemed dopey. Like The Little Prince except not charming.

    Started M.F.K. Fisher's essays for Gourmet Magazine -- they have a 40's/50's charm, but I'm more reminded than ever how much I hate food snobs. She's an educated food snob, but still... I will never be wholly converted to "civilized" meals.

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    books I am ordering from amazon:

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    but I'm going to order the last one with the better british cover, once it becomes available

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Hey there people who read and enjoyed The Terror.

    Did you see where they just found the HMS Investigator intact and in pretty good condition?

    Pretty cool.

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  • ioloiolo iolo Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Hey there people who read and enjoyed The Terror.

    Did you see where they just found the HMS Investigator intact and in pretty good condition?

    Pretty cool.

    That is goddamned mind-blowing.

    Honestly, when reading The Terror I was so immersed in it that I could never really mentally wrap my head around it being a real ship or a real thing that men would have to endure such ridiculous hardship "overwintering," as the website calls it.

    I hope they get a remote controlled camera down there for some pictures.

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    So I finished In Cold Blood, now I'm reading His Master's Voice. Lem is fucking weird.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I finally finished up the first trilogy of Black Company books.

    My impressions are still mixed, I think as a whole I liked the first book the best but The White Rose did have a pretty cool ending.

    I can see how the tone of the series was groundbreaking, but at least in so far as the first 3 books, I think The Black Company pales a little bit in comparison to some of the more modern works that it no doubt helped inspire.

    They were an enjoyable enough read but all 3 books had some pretty blatant pacing issues, which is kind of shocking considering the relative paucity of the page count. And calling the characters paper thin archetypes is generous (with a couple exceptions). Even the one character who I found really compelling in the first 2 novels turned into just a boring asshole by the end of the 3rd book.

    Plus, while I appreciate what Cook is going for with colloquial narration - it was grating to read at times.

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  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    wooo, finished lolita!

    i picked up johnathon strange for 5 bucks but i want to hold off on that until school starts, so im going to read stephen king's pet semetary for now

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  • seizureorbsseizureorbs Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    rereading suttree

    god this book is great

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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Twinning is WinningRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I finished One Hundred Years of Solitude and read the new Anthony Bourdain book.

    He sure is angry.

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  • ioloiolo iolo Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Balefuego wrote: »
    I finally finished up the first trilogy of Black Company books.

    My impressions are still mixed, I think as a whole I liked the first book the best but The White Rose did have a pretty cool ending.

    I can see how the tone of the series was groundbreaking, but at least in so far as the first 3 books, I think The Black Company pales a little bit in comparison to some of the more modern works that it no doubt helped inspire.

    They were an enjoyable enough read but all 3 books had some pretty blatant pacing issues, which is kind of shocking considering the relative paucity of the page count. And calling the characters paper thin archetypes is generous (with a couple exceptions). Even the one character who I found really compelling in the first 2 novels turned into just a boring asshole by the end of the 3rd book.

    Plus, while I appreciate what Cook is going for with colloquial narration - it was grating to read at times.

    Hmmm.... I have a friend who has been on me for a long time to read these. One the one hand he turned me on to Pynchon, Gaddis, Altered Carbon, Stone Junction, etc. etc. On the other hand he told me to read Kathy Acker and Market Forces, and hated The Gone-Away World. So I never know with him.

    Do I really want to undertake 704 pages on a gamble like that? Dunno. I think I'll work on my physical queue for a bit before making a decision.

    Assuming I ever actually finish Anathem which another friend sent me for my birthday. Someone tell me it picks up. Please? I'm 40 pages in and it's been dry as extraordinarily dry toast so far.

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'm not going to go in depth because Bale said everything I would have, but I will say that I came away from the first three pretty cold. They had good moments but people had built them up so much to me that I went in with high expectations and they just didn't deliver.

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  • ioloiolo iolo Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Peen wrote: »
    I'm not going to go in depth because Bale said everything I would have, but I will say that I came away from the first three pretty cold. They had good moments but people had built them up so much to me that I went in with high expectations and they just didn't deliver.

    Kind of like reading Neuromancer or Snow Crash after seeing the Matrix movies?

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