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Graphics card and monitor question....

arcatharcath Registered User regular
edited April 2007 in Games and Technology
I am in the process of building a new PC, but I am more than likely going to be getting the LCD first.

I am contemplating getting this sweet Dell 24 inch widescreen LCD.

What I'm wondering is this, while I'm in the process of buying all the parts needed for the new pc, I'm wanting to hook this up to my old PC.

Can a AGP X800 pro handle a widescreen monitor of this scale until I can get that sweet 8800GTS?

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  • JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    There's no reason why you can't use an X800 Pro with any monitor. Do you mean, can it run games at the monitor's native resolution? Then no, 1900x1200 is out of the question for most new games. Oblivion, FEAR, etc are all well beyond the X800 Pro's ability to play at 1900x1200 at anywhere near a decent framerate. But there's nothing stopping you from using a lower resolution. Games like WoW should be no problem though.

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  • AmnioticAmniotic Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    arcath wrote:
    I am in the process of building a new PC, but I am more than likely going to be getting the LCD first.

    I am contemplating getting this sweet Dell 24 inch widescreen LCD.

    What I'm wondering is this, while I'm in the process of buying all the parts needed for the new pc, I'm wanting to hook this up to my old PC.

    Can a AGP X800 pro handle a widescreen monitor of this scale until I can get that sweet 8800GTS?

    Are you considering buying an AGP motherboard? How much of a difference is there in the performance of the AGP 8800GTS and the PCI-E model?

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  • arcatharcath Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    oh no no no.

    I building a whole new rig.

    this pc im on now will be the secondary pc for the wife.

    Ill be going PCI-E.

    The reason this came up, is that i cant afford to buy everything in one purchase.

    I think that nice monitor would go along way to make me happy, especially playing WoW. :)

    One piece at a time.....

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  • JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Amniotic wrote:
    arcath wrote:
    I am in the process of building a new PC, but I am more than likely going to be getting the LCD first.

    I am contemplating getting this sweet Dell 24 inch widescreen LCD.

    What I'm wondering is this, while I'm in the process of buying all the parts needed for the new pc, I'm wanting to hook this up to my old PC.

    Can a AGP X800 pro handle a widescreen monitor of this scale until I can get that sweet 8800GTS?

    Are you considering buying an AGP motherboard? How much of a difference is there in the performance of the AGP 8800GTS and the PCI-E model?

    The last two AGP card are the 7900GS and the X1950 Pro. There aren't going to be any more after that. The 8xxx series won't be coming to AGP.

    EDIT: Typo, should be 7900GS, not 7800GS.

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  • FreddyDFreddyD Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    JWFokker wrote:
    Amniotic wrote:
    arcath wrote:
    I am in the process of building a new PC, but I am more than likely going to be getting the LCD first.

    I am contemplating getting this sweet Dell 24 inch widescreen LCD.

    What I'm wondering is this, while I'm in the process of buying all the parts needed for the new pc, I'm wanting to hook this up to my old PC.

    Can a AGP X800 pro handle a widescreen monitor of this scale until I can get that sweet 8800GTS?

    Are you considering buying an AGP motherboard? How much of a difference is there in the performance of the AGP 8800GTS and the PCI-E model?

    The last two AGP card are the 7800GS and the X1950 Pro. There aren't going to be any more after that. The 8xxx series won't be coming to AGP.
    Power Color had an x1950xt at CES which means ATI hasn't abandoned AGP yet.

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  • AmnioticAmniotic Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    arcath wrote:
    oh no no no.

    I building a whole new rig.

    this pc im on now will be the secondary pc for the wife.

    Ill be going PCI-E.

    The reason this came up, is that i cant afford to buy everything in one purchase.

    I think that nice monitor would go along way to make me happy, especially playing WoW. :)

    One piece at a time.....

    Heh, ok. I bought a 21" widescreen monitor last year. It was a vast improvement over my 17" CRT that was deeper than it was wide. Amazing what a difference it made.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    With the 2407WFP, make sure you get an A03 model. All other revisions have a hideous banding problem as well as some dodgy component inputs too. If you can't be sure of getting the A03 (e.g. ebay or being very specific with dell about which monitor you will accept,) then it might be worth looking for other ones.

    All in all though, I love mine, and I run quite a few games at 1920x1200 even on a fairly old system (6800GT/3200xp) Guild Wars, C-Strike Source, HL2 etc are all quite amenable to it.

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  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    I second the caution with the 2407 WFP. I got an A02 when I bought mine in October (when they'd been producing A03s for a few months at that point) and had all sorts of problems with horrific banding and the component inputs working incredibly sporadically..

    I was ready to give up when I finally talked the customer service rep into replacing it for me and I've been ecstatic ever since.

    I managed to run a few older games in 1920x1200 on my SLI'd 6600gt but I went mad last week and bought an 8800GTX and it's not even breaking sweat running games at that res..

    The only problem is eye strain. If you sit too close you'll be sure of ruining your eyes.. Mine is set back as far as it'll go on the desk but with something bright on the screen you can feel your eyes starting to struggle...

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  • arcatharcath Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Rook wrote:
    With the 2407WFP, make sure you get an A03 model. All other revisions have a hideous banding problem as well as some dodgy component inputs too. If you can't be sure of getting the A03 (e.g. ebay or being very specific with dell about which monitor you will accept,) then it might be worth looking for other ones.

    All in all though, I love mine, and I run quite a few games at 1920x1200 even on a fairly old system (6800GT/3200xp) Guild Wars, C-Strike Source, HL2 etc are all quite amenable to it.

    Thanks, i got a friend who swears by this model from Dell, he hasn't said anything negative about it, so i thought what the hell.

    But thank you, this is the exact kind of info i was looking for.

    I will most likely order this within the week. thanks.

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  • CymoroCymoro Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Oh my god.

    I just bought one of those right now because of you.

    This is going to be one sexy monitor.

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  • antifoodantifood Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    It is kind of funny that their 30 inch screen is cheaper than the 27.

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  • KMFurDMKMFurDM Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    It is very sexy. I have had one for 5 or 6 months now. Gaming at 1920x1200 is a thing to behold. I will be upgrading my box in the near future to properly take advantage, but some older games still run really well on it with Athlon 64 3500, 2 gigs ram and two 6800GT's in SLI.

    I have an A02 and looked at A01's and the banding problems I don't think are as terrible as they were made out to be. Component input is a bit dark but I dont really use it anyway.

    I will post pics later.

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  • JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    FreddyD wrote:
    JWFokker wrote:
    Amniotic wrote:
    arcath wrote:
    I am in the process of building a new PC, but I am more than likely going to be getting the LCD first.

    I am contemplating getting this sweet Dell 24 inch widescreen LCD.

    What I'm wondering is this, while I'm in the process of buying all the parts needed for the new pc, I'm wanting to hook this up to my old PC.

    Can a AGP X800 pro handle a widescreen monitor of this scale until I can get that sweet 8800GTS?

    Are you considering buying an AGP motherboard? How much of a difference is there in the performance of the AGP 8800GTS and the PCI-E model?

    The last two AGP card are the 7800GS and the X1950 Pro. There aren't going to be any more after that. The 8xxx series won't be coming to AGP.
    Power Color had an x1950xt at CES which means ATI hasn't abandoned AGP yet.

    ATi and Nvidia have pretty much given up on AGP, but their partners are free to try their hand at adapting a higher end GPU to AGP. It happened with the 7800GS, where Gainward put out a card that had all 24 pipes enabled on the G70 GPU and had 512MB of RAM, but it was clocked slower and was also $500+ before import costs. And while I heard about the X1950XT, it's going to be a full generation behind by the time it comes out, and since it's not ATi designed, it may not run at the full X1950XT specs, like the Gainward card. It will also probably be quite expensive. I just can't swallow spending $300+, when you could buy a new motherboard, cheap C2D and a mid-lowend 8xxx series card for the same price that would rape any system using an X1950XT.

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  • JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    antifood wrote:
    It is kind of funny that their 30 inch screen is cheaper than the 27.

    The 30" is currently on sale at Dell and the 27" is not. Also, the 27" JUST CAME OUT. But why buy from Dell? You can get the both for less elsewhere.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    JWFokker wrote:
    antifood wrote:
    It is kind of funny that their 30 inch screen is cheaper than the 27.

    The 30" is currently on sale at Dell and the 27" is not. Also, the 27" JUST CAME OUT. But why buy from Dell? You can get the both for less elsewhere.

    ???

    I was under the impression that the only other company making a 30" WQXGA monitor was Apple, and I know theirs is more expensive.

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  • antifoodantifood Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    JWFokker wrote:
    antifood wrote:
    It is kind of funny that their 30 inch screen is cheaper than the 27.

    The 30" is currently on sale at Dell and the 27" is not. Also, the 27" JUST CAME OUT. But why buy from Dell? You can get the both for less elsewhere.

    ???

    I was under the impression that the only other company making a 30" WQXGA monitor was Apple, and I know theirs is more expensive.

    I believe that both displays are actually from the same manufacture. Also, is it not ironic that they would have a sale on a 30" even though their new product line just came out? I thought it was.

    Where can I find a better price than the Dell 30" that is on sale? My sales rep told me that those prices are usually only available when they are trying to liquidate excess stock (there is a slim to zero profit margin).

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  • arcatharcath Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    yeah, if something can be found, i might be tempted to go higher than the 24 inch widescreen.

    but im not holding my breath.

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  • victor_c26victor_c26 Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Sorry for raising this thread from the dead, but as I'm interested in buying a 2407WFP, I just want to know how it compares to my 19" Samsung 955DF in size:

    Are these dimensions correct? (These are supposedly the actual screen's viewable size):

    Horizontal 518.4 mm (20.4 inches)

    Vertical 324.0 mm (12.7 inches)

    I don't want to order the 24" screen and find out that the height of the screen is actually smaller than my current 19" CRT monitor.

    EDIT: Oh, and is the DVI input HDCP compatible?

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    victor_c26 wrote: »
    Sorry for raising this thread from the dead, but as I'm interested in buying a 2407WFP, I just want to know how it compares to my 19" Samsung 955DF in size:

    Are these dimensions correct? (These are supposedly the actual screen's viewable size):

    Horizontal 518.4 mm (20.4 inches)

    Vertical 324.0 mm (12.7 inches)

    I don't want to order the 24" screen and find out that the height of the screen is actually smaller than my current 19" CRT monitor.

    EDIT: Oh, and is the DVI input HDCP compatible?

    Yeah, the DVI is HDCP compatible. Also they've released the A04 revision, not entirely sure what that changed but I guess it's the one to go for. And whilst I have no rulers to hand I really doubt Dell would put out an obvious lie and those demensions feel right.

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  • victor_c26victor_c26 Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Thanks for the info. I was thinking about going with the 27" screen, simply for the fact that the product page specifically mentions HDCP as a feature, and in which the 24" product page doesn't even mention it. But now I know.

    How well does the screen upconvert? As I have a 7600GT, I'm not going to be able run games at it's native resolution. So I pretty much have to run the screen at a 16:10 equivalent of the 1366*768 resolution setting with games.

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  • Manic205Manic205 Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Slickdeals.net

    Go there, or to Newegg for your monitor. I see 22" widescreens on SD for under $300 all the time. $320 more for 2 inches? Maybe if it was for your penis, not a Dell logo...

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  • victor_c26victor_c26 Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Manic205 wrote: »
    Slickdeals.net

    Go there, or to Newegg for your monitor. I see 22" widescreens on SD for under $300 all the time. $320 more for 2 inches? Maybe if it was for your penis, not a Dell logo...

    Well, the whole point about getting the 24" is because I want more desktop real estate. And if I'm going to spend the money on a new monitor, the screen might as well be taller than my current 19" CRT monitor.

    EDIT: And yeah, what Deusfaux said:

    "(component, s-video, vga AND dvi)

    4 port USB hub built in

    built in multi card reader"

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Manic205 wrote: »
    Slickdeals.net

    Go there, or to Newegg for your monitor. I see 22" widescreens on SD for under $300 all the time. $320 more for 2 inches? Maybe if it was for your penis, not a Dell logo...

    do those 22" widescreens have all the same inputs (component, s-video, vga AND dvi)

    do they have a 4 port USB hub built in?

    do they have a built in multi card reader?

    can they do up to 1920x1200?

    do they have a pixel dot pitch anywhere near the 24"s?



    dont act like 2 inches is hte only difference dude.

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