[Megaten / Persona Discussion] Devil Survivor 2 hits the DS, surprising... everyone.

cj iwakura

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzXLed9QGRs

Persona 2's back with a vengeance.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VteHd2AoGvw



Catherine is Atlus' new project, their first next-gen endeavor.

A Survival Horror/RPG hybrid of some kind.

The heck does this have to do with us, you ask?

- Horror Action Adventure aimed for adults.
- producer Katsura Hashino (Persona 4 Director)
- chara design Shigenori Soejima
- composer Shoji Meguro

There you go.

This here's Vincent, the protagonist:



And this is Catherine, a woman who may or may not be some kind of horrifying demonic entity in disguise:



Vincent also appeared in P3P, further leading people to think there's a connection to SMT here.



Winter 2010, should be awesome.

As long as console RPGs have existed, Japan has been dominated by the likes of Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy. But somewhere, just outside of the mainstream, lies the Megami Tensei series. Filled with dark stories about the nature of reality, technology, religion and humanity, the Megami Tensei storylines have been a bit too obtuse, and the gameplay a little bit too hardcore, to really attract the typical RPG fan. But the series - mostly relegated to Japan until recently - has created a cult following known as Megatenists, who devote themselves to one of video gaming=s most expansive series.

There's no shortage of places you could start with the Megaten series.

Games!

SNES



The core games, known for sadistic first person dungeons, gun and/or melee combat, and a whole ton of demons.




PS1?



You have the Persona games, which is easily SMT's most popular offshoot now, the SMT remakes, or the Devil Summoner games.



Totally.

GBA and/or DS



Very few people have played this cute little gem. It's SMT Pokemon, basically, but with turn based RPG party combat. You could do worse for a starter.



Or, if you prefer, turn-based strategic combat:



With plenty of characters everyone loves that aren't horribly designed at all!



Maybe some old-school dungeon crawling?



Sadistic maps for everyone!



You're bound to make plenty of new friends.



He just likes playing hard to get.


PS2

If you don't own this console, you're probably missing out on the best titles.



A little of everything.



Less -sempais and -kuns thrown about in that particular game, which is better for us all.



Raidou happens to know the best fusioner around.


I guess the PSP can get some love too.



We heard you like female protagonists, so of course that means pink interface!

Next-gen? Well, we're still waiting.


Until then, here's some more


Specialized.Extracurricular.Educational.Stuff

View or face execution.

Images!

PERSONA 4 SPOILER

In closing, click for huge, and epic.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/cjiwakura/Megaten/59ad4f3e3428f56def1a1b1.jpg

Video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0Z9mbhsol4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tghOuKhFxc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRxAoB-odW0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O8x97xGGLU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYnIy-s2ILc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89-rCBtTnBk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mUTQKMRLYQ&feature=search

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbmOdo9qW4A&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qR_LM4nQ7w

And don't forget,



Wait, shoot.

Xagarath

I wish we knew more about the 3DS titles in the pipeline.

Mostlyjoe13

Yay! New Megaten thread...that I will hardly post in.

simulacrum

A new thread to lurk!

Xagarath

Mostlyjoe13 wrote: »

Yay! New Megaten thread...that I will hardly post in.

At least you've been around the Demons' Souls one instead.

LockeCole

Tagging so it shows up in my subscribed threads.

Honestly I love the series, but I cannot bring myself to buy P3 for the psp since

The ending is so goddamned depressing. I much prefer 4 where you have to really work to get the best ending, but at least it exists.

Dragkonias

Hmm, think I'll replay P4(Blue Dot).

cj iwakura

Oh, uh, there may be P4 spoilers in the image section. I'll go tag it appropriately.

Why yes, I am fond of the P3F/Shinji pairing, what gives you that idea?

Mostlyjoe13

Xagarath wrote: »

Mostlyjoe13 wrote: »

Yay! New Megaten thread...that I will hardly post in.

At least you've been around the Demons' Souls one instead.

True. And as soon as I get done with DQ9, EOIII, I'll get back to my Strange Journey.

Blackjack

My Let's Play is reminding me how much I prefer the old style Personas and it's kind of sad since I know they're never going back to that.

I miss my entire party being useful (except Chris. Fuck Chris. )

cj iwakura

Isn't Chris the best character in the game by a mile?

Blackjack

Hahaha, only if you get to level 80+

Otherwise he has the lowest SP pool and can't use any of the best Personas (again, in the pre level 80+ range of Personas)

Xagarath

The plural is Personae, damn it.

Blackjack

Actually, they're both pluralizations, and in terms of "soul pokemon" the right pluralization is Personas. So there. :P

Specifically, definition 2

Main Entry: per·so·na
Pronunciation: \pər-ˈsō-nə, -ˌnä\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural per·so·nae \-(ˌ)nē, -ˌnī\ or personas
Etymology: Latin
Date: 1909
1 : a character assumed by an author in a written work
2 a plural personas [New Latin, from Latin] : an individual's social facade or front that especially in the analytic psychology of C. G. Jung reflects the role in life the individual is playing — compare anima b : the personality that a person (as an actor or politician) projects in public : image
3 plural personae : a character in a fictional presentation (as a novel or play) —usually used in plural <comic personae>

cj iwakura

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wO-8X9LOUw


I was going to post the sub of this, but... O_o

It's pretty good so far.

Okay, decent, but not a bad effort.

WotanAnubis

Welp, finally managed to finish up Strange Journey. Got the Chaos Ending.

And, wow, Mastema was a douche. Pretty much put the Angels from SMT2 to shame in terms of sheer douchebaggery.

Xagarath

Blackjack wrote: »

Actually, they're both pluralizations, and in terms of "soul pokemon" the right pluralization is Personas. So there. :P

OED, which I'd give rather more weight to than Webster, puts both as equally valid plurals for the psychological variety, not just personas.

Blackjack

Well either way you're still wrong to insist on Personae over Personas. ;-)

Xagarath

But you were also wrong to insist the other way :P

cj iwakura

Isn't Persona plural too?

Xenogear_0001

I need to get into Strange Journey, but I still have to work through Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, some Valkyrie Profile game I picked up on a whim, Fire Emblem Dark Something-Or-Other, and I really need to go back and do a couple new game pluses for the remake of FF IV. And that's just handheld titles... I still need to get through Nocturn, DDS 1 & 2, and I'm also working on Puzzle Quest 2, Deathspank, and Mario Galaxy 2.

You know... I really shouldn't be complaining should I?

Blackjack

Xagarath wrote: »

But you were also wrong to insist the other way :P

Well I'm only wrong once you're wrong twice. That's double wrong, which is way worse than normal wrong. Like, at least 1.75 times as bad.

Xagarath

Blackjack wrote: »

Xagarath wrote: »

But you were also wrong to insist the other way :P

Well I'm only wrong once you're wrong twice. That's double wrong, which is way worse than normal wrong. Like, at least 1.75 times as bad.

No, I was wrong once, in my original post. You've now been wrong twice- once in your original post, and once in the post above about who was wrong how often. :P

cj iwakura

I'm kind of fortunate, the only thing standing between me and any new SMT game is If, and my run of P3 FES(not Answer).


And I guess that pending NG+ of Raidou 1 and Devil Survivor.

Blackjack

Xagarath wrote: »

Blackjack wrote: »

Xagarath wrote: »

But you were also wrong to insist the other way :P

Well I'm only wrong once you're wrong twice. That's double wrong, which is way worse than normal wrong. Like, at least 1.75 times as bad.

No, I was wrong once, in my original post. You've now been wrong twice- once in your original post, and once in the post above about who was wrong how often. :P

No, we're using two sources and both sources say you're wrong so you're wrong twice.

Well, three times now. :P

This could go on all day, couldn't it. Let's just call it even and say we were both wrong once. I have Persona 1 grinding to get back to.

Gotta level up my Personas :P

Teyar

Namatame Spoilers :

Okay, seriously, what the freaking hell just happened there. Shadows bodilly posessed him? He was his OWN shadow? On top of the lulz of spiral peace headgear and tortured dead face. And Love And Peace shirt. But seriously. WHAT THE FREAKING FRAG? Does he ever get explained, or is it like Shadow Teddie, where you're not supposed to think about it? or does Shadow Teddie ever get explained?

Shaggy

Teyar wrote: »

Namatame Spoilers :

Okay, seriously, what the freaking hell just happened there. Shadows bodilly posessed him? He was his OWN shadow? On top of the lulz of spiral peace headgear and tortured dead face. And Love And Peace shirt. But seriously. WHAT THE FREAKING FRAG? Does he ever get explained, or is it like Shadow Teddie, where you're not supposed to think about it? or does Shadow Teddie ever get explained?

I dont remember the game exactly but

I thought Shadow Teddie was just the same as all of the other shadow people. He just didn't get his own dungeon. I guess he did seem to know a bit more about the whole TV world so maybe that could be due to Teddie being from there. I'm don't remember Namatame so I can't help you there.

SpaceDrake

I approve of the massive amounts of Shinjiro in the OP.

Mumblyfish

You can claim a small victory, Xagarath. From now on I'll use Personae, if only by virtue of it sounding cooler.

Playing through P3P again, I didn't realise that Mitsuru's "You done fucked up" speech was of the "But thou must!" persuasion.

"I don't want to hear any excuses! You've had plenty of time. We're going tonight, whether you like it or not!"
"Now, wait a second..."
"I don't want to hear any excuses! You've had plenty of time..."
"Now, wait a second..."
"I don't want to hear any excuses...!"

She may be valedictorian and student council president, but I bet she just bombed in debate club.

SpaceDrake

Also thank you for finding that image of Elizabeth fighting Erebus, CJ, I've been looking for that forever. Is there a higher-rez one available somewhere?

Hell for that matter MC-Elizabeth really is the best P3 pairing. I will brook no debate concerning this idea.

Even if it is, potentially, universe-shattering and possibly physically impossible. God I can't wait for P5, there better be some payoffs (and answers) about all this.

Blackjack

Actually, Mitsuru's the best one in debate because everyone else is terrified of her.

Also, to add to the Shinjiro pic spam, here's one of him with what may be the best character in the series:

Just manly guys
Doin' manly things

Tertiee

SpaceDrake wrote: »

Also thank you for finding that image of Elizabeth fighting Erebus, CJ, I've been looking for that forever. Is there a higher-rez one available somewhere?

Hell for that matter MC-Elizabeth really is the best P3 pairing. I will brook no debate concerning this idea.

Even if it is, potentially, universe-shattering and possibly physically impossible. God I can't wait for P5, there better be some payoffs (and answers) about all this.

I have a slightly bigger version

cj iwakura

Blackjack wrote: »

Actually, Mitsuru's the best one in debate because everyone else is terrified of her.

Also, to add to the Shinjiro pic spam, here's one of him with what may be the best character in the series:

Just manly guys
Doin' manly things

Homemaking: Extreme Edition.

The Anonymous

This thread is reminding me that not only do I have a NG+ to do in P4, but I have to also try and work out what triggers this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ha0cjbKKXA

Satanic Jesus

That reminds me, I need to finish my new game plus of Persona 4 and start Persona 3 FES. Or find a place that will deliver PSP games that never got released here to Ireland.

Dartboy

And the links to the Persona 4 comic and Youtube dubs weren't in the OP because....?

Zephyr_Fate

i want nocturne ps3 dammit

hoodie13

Dartboy wrote: »

And the links to the Persona 4 comic and Youtube dubs weren't in the OP because....?

oh my god i hadnt seen these yet

best ever

cj iwakura

Don't forget the part 3 preview.


And I tried to keep it images only, it's nicer for presentation.

Gaming-Freak

There's three parts out right now to Hiimdaisy's P4 parody comic (She also made really good MGS parodies, too.)

Anyway P4 MC + Naoto = best pairing in series! Unless you count the fact that P1 MC had TWO girls after him.

Blackjack

The romantic path for Naoto is super creepy and not good at all.