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Okay, thought of one: energy drinks, especially those marketed toward Hardcore Gamers. That goes for any kind of food that fits into this segment, like Headshot Gamer Candy.
Yup, pretty much 99% of anything that's referred to as "gaming culture" I'll dislike. Especially all the stereotypical shit, like drinking Mountain Dew (or energy drinks) while calling people fags and saying "lol" in actual real-life conversation.
Does anyone have any Pet Peeves about Gaming Culture.
My biggest one is people who bash games when they haven't played them.
...that isn't unique to 'gaming culture.' That pretty much isn't unique to any culture, really.
It seems more prevalent in gaming culture, though...at least to me. Mainly because with music, movies, etc. it's easier to at least listen to enough to act like you have an opinion. I can listen to fifteen minutes or less of an album and feel comfortable saying it's terrible. I can watch half a movie, an hour or less, and feel comfortable saying it's garbage. People will read like two reviews of a 20-hour game, maybe watch a YouTube video, and at best play four minutes of a demo then proceed to bash it.
And most haven't even played the demo.
Basically games require a larger time commitment to form any kind of remotely informed opinion on. The only thing that really comes close to me would be books...but I know few people who go out of their way to bash books they haven't read.
I do. In fact I have forms that I have to hand out to them and then a potentially weeks long process of dealing with the homps afterward because this isn't 1930's Germany and we aren't going to ban the fucking book. But I can't say it like that to their face, so I have to be nice and do a call back if they actually bother to fill it out.
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Rhetorical Question: What is gaming culture?
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The thing I hate most about gamer culture is that there are people who assume that gamers possess anything in common other than "people who play games".
The fetishizing of proffesional gaming. MLG is to me nothing more then a bunch of elitist shit's who ~having some skill at various video games~ think that they should have the same degree of respect that the folks in the NFL get.
Frankly, I wouldn't care, except you occasionally run into these idiots on message boards or at various cons and they think that they're prophets of gaming and god help you if you think that Halo 3 is anything less then the definitive multiplayer expierience.
The fetishizing of proffesional gaming. MLG is to me nothing more then a bunch of elitist shit's who ~having some skill at various video games~ think that they should have the same degree of respect that the folks in the NFL get.
Frankly, I wouldn't care, except you occasionally run into these idiots on message boards or at various cons and they think that they're prophets of gaming and god help you if you think that Halo 3 is anything less then the definitive multiplayer expierience.
I'd argue that for the most part pro sports and pro gaming are equally deserving of recognition, but I do agree that there is something seriously fucking wrong with 'skilled' gaming culture.
For a community I'm actually familiar with, I'll mention WoW; high level PvPers and Raiders alike have are exponentially more dickish than the general population.
I wouldn't say it's a majority, but when a good third are obnoxious loudmouth dicks who look down on everyone else, and anyone who calls them on it becomes an instant pariah...well, there's obviously something wrong.
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The thing I hate most about gamer culture is that there are people who assume that gamers possess anything in common other than "people who play games".
This is basically true about any culture, or any thing, really, though. That doesn't mean there can't be strong undercurrents of some specific thing to dislike.
Though, admittedly, the JRPG player and the Madden loving fratboy have little in common.
The JRPG player doesn't even have a lot in common with the WRPG player.
Still, gaming culture, as a whole, definitely exists. The existence of Jehovah's Witnesses doesn't mean that a wider Christian Culture can't exist.
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I'd argue that for the most part pro sports and pro gaming are equally deserving of recognition, but I do agree that there is something seriously fucking wrong with 'skilled' gaming culture.
For a community I'm actually familiar with, I'll mention WoW; high level PvPers and Raiders alike have are exponentially more dickish than the general population.
I wouldn't say it's a majority, but when a good third are obnoxious loudmouth dicks who look down on everyone else, and anyone who calls them on it becomes an instant pariah...well, there's obviously something wrong.
Are you sure it's not just a case of obnoxious loudmouth dicks being obnoxious loudmouth dicks? I'm pretty sure the only difference between a dickish high-level PvPer/raider and a dickish nub is the style of dickishness.
Success doesn't turn people into assholes, being assholes turns people into assholes.
Not a pet peeve about gaming culture specifically but something IN gaming culture (and shows up a lot elsewhere) are people who bash things because it's popular/new/different/played by the people who bullied them in high school. A few of my long-standing acquaintances on the internets have for the longest time asserted that Halo is a piece of crap - without having actually played it at all. It's liked by a lot of people, and jocks play it, so therefore it must = dogshit. I try to explain to them that they should really give co-op with a friend a try but no, no, they tell me I'm wrong and go back to playing Diablo II or some shit.
Also applies to the ridiculous attitudes people can have about new editions in D&D, as illustrated in a recent PA strip. There are still mountains of people that baw about 4th edition being 'retards D&D' and that we're turning the game into an MMO because tanks can actually, you know, affect monster behavior in significant ways.
And yeah this isn't unique to gamer culture at all, but ho-lee-shit does it ever go to extremes.
My problem with gaming culture is how bigotry is accepted, with misogyny being the most prevalant. That's not to say that racial and religious minorities don't get their own amount of shit.
My problem with gaming culture is how bigotry is accepted, with misogyny being the most prevalant. That's not to say that racial and religious minorities don't get their own amount of shit.
Man, why'd you have to our real, legitimate failure so quickly!
My problem with gaming culture is how bigotry is accepted, with misogyny being the most prevalant. That's not to say that racial and religious minorities don't get their own amount of shit.
Don't forget sexual/gender related minorities. They're a pretty big one.
My problem with gaming culture is how bigotry is accepted, with misogyny being the most prevalant. That's not to say that racial and religious minorities don't get their own amount of shit.
Don't forget sexual/gender related minorities. They're a pretty big one.
How embarassing. How the hell could I forget that?
I'd argue that for the most part pro sports and pro gaming are equally deserving of recognition, but I do agree that there is something seriously fucking wrong with 'skilled' gaming culture.
For a community I'm actually familiar with, I'll mention WoW; high level PvPers and Raiders alike have are exponentially more dickish than the general population.
I wouldn't say it's a majority, but when a good third are obnoxious loudmouth dicks who look down on everyone else, and anyone who calls them on it becomes an instant pariah...well, there's obviously something wrong.
Are you sure it's not just a case of obnoxious loudmouth dicks being obnoxious loudmouth dicks? I'm pretty sure the only difference between a dickish high-level PvPer/raider and a dickish nub is the style of dickishness.
Success doesn't turn people into assholes, being assholes turns people into assholes.
I'll admit that's possible. Although I feel being a dick is, if not more common, much more accepted in the serious gaming circles; a high level raiding guild ninjaing an item from a casual is considered something to brag about. For a similar thing in PvP circles, AFKing battlegrounds is not only acceptable, but often recommended.
Neither of these things are at all acceptable in most casual WoW circles. Of course this is all anecdotal, so maybe I've just had unique experiences.
Edit: Looking at mention of the misogyny and racism, it occurs to my the real reason elite gamer culture is what it is: 'Serious' gamers and their circles are almost exclusively 20-something males.
The thing I hate most about gamer culture is that there are people who assume that gamers possess anything in common other than "people who play games".
This is basically true about any culture, or any thing, really, though. That doesn't mean there can't be strong undercurrents of some specific thing to dislike.
Though, admittedly, the JRPG player and the Madden loving fratboy have little in common.
The JRPG player doesn't even have a lot in common with the WRPG player.
Still, gaming culture, as a whole, definitely exists. The existence of Jehovah's Witnesses doesn't mean that a wider Christian Culture can't exist.
I will grant you that, except the comparison/analogy to Christianity.
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mrt144King of the NumbernamesRegistered Userregular
I'd argue that for the most part pro sports and pro gaming are equally deserving of recognition, but I do agree that there is something seriously fucking wrong with 'skilled' gaming culture.
For a community I'm actually familiar with, I'll mention WoW; high level PvPers and Raiders alike have are exponentially more dickish than the general population.
I wouldn't say it's a majority, but when a good third are obnoxious loudmouth dicks who look down on everyone else, and anyone who calls them on it becomes an instant pariah...well, there's obviously something wrong.
Are you sure it's not just a case of obnoxious loudmouth dicks being obnoxious loudmouth dicks? I'm pretty sure the only difference between a dickish high-level PvPer/raider and a dickish nub is the style of dickishness.
Success doesn't turn people into assholes, being assholes turns people into assholes.
I'll admit that's possible. Although I feel being a dick is, if not more common, much more accepted in the serious gaming circles; a high level raiding guild ninjaing an item from a casual is considered something to brag about. For a similar thing in PvP circles, AFKing battlegrounds is not only acceptable, but often recommended.
Neither of these things are at all acceptable in most casual WoW circles. Of course this is all anecdotal, so maybe I've just had unique experiences.
Rude dicks hang out with rude dicks in a fake universe because nobody else tolerates their bullshit.
I hate how many gamers think it's "cool" to say that they are basically psychotic murderers, who will shoot, stab, burn, or any other sort of bullshit these little cocks would never actually think about doing, people over anything, if they feel slighted in any way.
And I too am annoyed by the extreme fetish for all things Japanese gaming culture seems to harbor. The people who will scream at you if you call an "anime" a cartoon, need to reevaluate their life.
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Whether they find a life there or not, I think Jupiter should be called an enemy planet.
My problem with gaming culture is how bigotry is accepted, with misogyny being the most prevalant. That's not to say that racial and religious minorities don't get their own amount of shit.
Don't forget sexual/gender related minorities. They're a pretty big one.
The culture surrounding hardcore gaming is predominantly white, male and heteronormative, though I think I've managed to put a kibosh on most offensive shit I hear.
Edit: Which incidentally, annoys the shit out of me.
The 'I'd kick their ass in real life!" internet tough guy thing is cute but amazingly unrealistic. Personally, the only time I ever see dicks get called out IRL is when I'm in manic 'fuck-it' mode and do it myself; it's much harder to rock the boat in a real life social circle than people like to pretend.
edit: Oh, and the Japanese culture fetish thing is just...fucking weird. And I say this as super-hardcore unrepentant weeaboo from hell.
Oh, and not unique to gaming culture, and not universal among gamers, but the whole Japanese fetish. And I mean Japanese animation, Japanese game, Japanese food, Japanese schoolgirls, whatever. I get it, man...some good stuff does come out of Japan. But it's not the fucking promised land, get over it.
Except I see far more people complaining about people possessing this "Japanese fetish" then I do see people actually having it.
I hate the use of words like "rig" and arguments about what counts as "hardcore". The only we all have in common is that we all play games, so who honestly cares if that is Wii Sports, Halo or some obscure JRPG from the mid 90s.
The thing I hate most about gamer culture is that there are people who assume that gamers possess anything in common other than "people who play games".
pretty much this. I don't understand "gamer fuel" shit, mountain dew and the like. It'd be like a company releasing "music lover fuel!" "movie goer energy drink!" I have a friend who absolutely loves Fps but he also absolutely hates any game that tries to have too much story, like mass effect or fallout 3. Is someone who constantly and religiously plays farmville in the same demographic as somebody who has bought and played every final fantasy game ever made? Of course not, it just boggles my mind how the "general public" and the corporate marketing teams have a weird time grasping this.
another thing I hate about gaming culture is the people. I've yet to meet bigger assholes in real life than on xbox live or wow. Some people out there are seriously fucking tweaked, and just get off on antagonizing other people. Makes me sick.
The fetishizing of proffesional gaming. MLG is to me nothing more then a bunch of elitist shit's who ~having some skill at various video games~ think that they should have the same degree of respect that the folks in the NFL get.
Frankly, I wouldn't care, except you occasionally run into these idiots on message boards or at various cons and they think that they're prophets of gaming and god help you if you think that Halo 3 is anything less then the definitive multiplayer expierience.
I'd argue that for the most part pro sports and pro gaming are equally deserving of recognition, but I do agree that there is something seriously fucking wrong with 'skilled' gaming culture.
For a community I'm actually familiar with, I'll mention WoW; high level PvPers and Raiders alike have are exponentially more dickish than the general population.
I wouldn't say it's a majority, but when a good third are obnoxious loudmouth dicks who look down on everyone else, and anyone who calls them on it becomes an instant pariah...well, there's obviously something wrong.
Eh, this isn't all that different from competitive circles. Many pro-athletes are assholes of varying degrees. It may have something to do with getting lots of attention combined with an already jerkish personality that sends them over the edge.
Also, being a douchebag gets you attention, and it's far better to not be as awesome in tournaments but be an attention-grabbing asshole as opposed to the polite guy that places very high. The former will attract more sponsors.
What I hate about the culture is the shit that tries to artificially wedge itself in the culture. This is perhaps most evident in a lot of the music. Johnathon Coulton does a lot of geekier topics but has done other stuff, whereas you have this whole "nerdcore" subgenre that feels so forced you can see the scrape marks.
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Not a pet peeve about gaming culture specifically but something IN gaming culture (and shows up a lot elsewhere) are people who bash things because it's popular/new/different/played by the people who bullied them in high school. A few of my long-standing acquaintances on the internets have for the longest time asserted that Halo is a piece of crap - without having actually played it at all. It's liked by a lot of people, and jocks play it, so therefore it must = dogshit. I try to explain to them that they should really give co-op with a friend a try but no, no, they tell me I'm wrong and go back to playing Diablo II or some shit.
Oh god so this. I call this "Beat up in High School" syndrome, where anything that the "cool kids" enjoy is automatically bad. In some cases I have seen it extend as far as demonizing alcohol, and even sexuality.
I believe it also links into the "'Nice Guy' who thinks girls only date jerks" archetype.
Not a pet peeve about gaming culture specifically but something IN gaming culture (and shows up a lot elsewhere) are people who bash things because it's popular/new/different/played by the people who bullied them in high school. A few of my long-standing acquaintances on the internets have for the longest time asserted that Halo is a piece of crap - without having actually played it at all. It's liked by a lot of people, and jocks play it, so therefore it must = dogshit. I try to explain to them that they should really give co-op with a friend a try but no, no, they tell me I'm wrong and go back to playing Diablo II or some shit.
Oh god so this. I call this "Beat up in High School" syndrome, where anything that the "cool kids" enjoy is automatically bad. In some cases I have seen it extend as far as demonizing alcohol, and even sexuality.
I believe it also links into the "'Nice Guy' who thinks girls only date jerks" archetype.
"Early onset Get-off-my-Lawnism" is another type of this behavior.
I had a coworker that mercilessly ripped on any popular game just because it was popular and available on a current generation console. If it wasn't some obscure game that sold 100 copies 10 years ago, it was garbage and you were stupid for enjoying it. He was about 27 or 28 when I worked with him.
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The fetishizing of proffesional gaming. MLG is to me nothing more then a bunch of elitist shit's who ~having some skill at various video games~ think that they should have the same degree of respect that the folks in the NFL get.
Frankly, I wouldn't care, except you occasionally run into these idiots on message boards or at various cons and they think that they're prophets of gaming and god help you if you think that Halo 3 is anything less then the definitive multiplayer expierience.
I actually have the exact opposite pet peeve - I hate how widely disdained pro gaming leagues are in the gaming community. Any time I see a post on one of the game news sites that has anything even tangentially to do with competitive gaming, even if it's only a minute part, like a quote from a player or something, the comments are always vehemently negative about it.
I suspect there's an element of jealousy and "I could do that too!!" to it. But whatever the case, it's just really goddamn annoying, and I don't even really follow competitive gaming.
Another pet peeve is when I'm a part of a game's relatively small community and have a presence in the community, and how when people find out I'm gay I'll never be able to enter games without getting stupid fucking comments about it. Especially really ridiculously prurient questions about my sex life.
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Oh, and not unique to gaming culture, and not universal among gamers, but the whole Japanese fetish. And I mean Japanese animation, Japanese game, Japanese food, Japanese schoolgirls, whatever. I get it, man...some good stuff does come out of Japan. But it's not the fucking promised land, get over it.
Except I see far more people complaining about people possessing this "Japanese fetish" then I do see people actually having it.
There seems to be this weird divide between people who fetishize everything about Japan, and people who love to make fun of people who say anything positive about Japanese stuff. Often they're the same people too.
Really, I think the gaming "press" (and I use that term in the loosest possible sense) hurts the reputation of gaming culture more than it actually adds anything to it. Especially cesspools like Kotaku which go out of their way to reinforce, if not create from whole cloth, weird fetishizing of whatever they think will get the most hits. At least gizmodo is consistent in their pandering.
Being called a 'bitch nword', 'faggot', etc after killing someone in a fps. That stuff is for real winners, and not something I've come across playing any kind of sport or other social, competitive activity. Probably more related to the power of online anonymity than gaming culture, though to a degree the two are inextricably linked.
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...that isn't unique to 'gaming culture.' That pretty much isn't unique to any culture, really.
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Basically this.
I do. In fact I have forms that I have to hand out to them and then a potentially weeks long process of dealing with the homps afterward because this isn't 1930's Germany and we aren't going to ban the fucking book. But I can't say it like that to their face, so I have to be nice and do a call back if they actually bother to fill it out.
If a game doesn't grab you in four minutes, chances are it's not very good.
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The fetishizing of proffesional gaming. MLG is to me nothing more then a bunch of elitist shit's who ~having some skill at various video games~ think that they should have the same degree of respect that the folks in the NFL get.
Frankly, I wouldn't care, except you occasionally run into these idiots on message boards or at various cons and they think that they're prophets of gaming and god help you if you think that Halo 3 is anything less then the definitive multiplayer expierience.
I'd argue that for the most part pro sports and pro gaming are equally deserving of recognition, but I do agree that there is something seriously fucking wrong with 'skilled' gaming culture.
For a community I'm actually familiar with, I'll mention WoW; high level PvPers and Raiders alike have are exponentially more dickish than the general population.
I wouldn't say it's a majority, but when a good third are obnoxious loudmouth dicks who look down on everyone else, and anyone who calls them on it becomes an instant pariah...well, there's obviously something wrong.
This is basically true about any culture, or any thing, really, though. That doesn't mean there can't be strong undercurrents of some specific thing to dislike.
Though, admittedly, the JRPG player and the Madden loving fratboy have little in common.
The JRPG player doesn't even have a lot in common with the WRPG player.
Still, gaming culture, as a whole, definitely exists. The existence of Jehovah's Witnesses doesn't mean that a wider Christian Culture can't exist.
Are you sure it's not just a case of obnoxious loudmouth dicks being obnoxious loudmouth dicks? I'm pretty sure the only difference between a dickish high-level PvPer/raider and a dickish nub is the style of dickishness.
Success doesn't turn people into assholes, being assholes turns people into assholes.
Also applies to the ridiculous attitudes people can have about new editions in D&D, as illustrated in a recent PA strip. There are still mountains of people that baw about 4th edition being 'retards D&D' and that we're turning the game into an MMO because tanks can actually, you know, affect monster behavior in significant ways.
And yeah this isn't unique to gamer culture at all, but ho-lee-shit does it ever go to extremes.
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Don't forget sexual/gender related minorities. They're a pretty big one.
How embarassing. How the hell could I forget that?
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I'll admit that's possible. Although I feel being a dick is, if not more common, much more accepted in the serious gaming circles; a high level raiding guild ninjaing an item from a casual is considered something to brag about. For a similar thing in PvP circles, AFKing battlegrounds is not only acceptable, but often recommended.
Neither of these things are at all acceptable in most casual WoW circles. Of course this is all anecdotal, so maybe I've just had unique experiences.
Edit: Looking at mention of the misogyny and racism, it occurs to my the real reason elite gamer culture is what it is: 'Serious' gamers and their circles are almost exclusively 20-something males.
Rude dicks hang out with rude dicks in a fake universe because nobody else tolerates their bullshit.
And I too am annoyed by the extreme fetish for all things Japanese gaming culture seems to harbor. The people who will scream at you if you call an "anime" a cartoon, need to reevaluate their life.
The culture surrounding hardcore gaming is predominantly white, male and heteronormative, though I think I've managed to put a kibosh on most offensive shit I hear.
Edit: Which incidentally, annoys the shit out of me.
edit: Oh, and the Japanese culture fetish thing is just...fucking weird. And I say this as super-hardcore unrepentant weeaboo from hell.
Except I see far more people complaining about people possessing this "Japanese fetish" then I do see people actually having it.
pretty much this. I don't understand "gamer fuel" shit, mountain dew and the like. It'd be like a company releasing "music lover fuel!" "movie goer energy drink!" I have a friend who absolutely loves Fps but he also absolutely hates any game that tries to have too much story, like mass effect or fallout 3. Is someone who constantly and religiously plays farmville in the same demographic as somebody who has bought and played every final fantasy game ever made? Of course not, it just boggles my mind how the "general public" and the corporate marketing teams have a weird time grasping this.
another thing I hate about gaming culture is the people. I've yet to meet bigger assholes in real life than on xbox live or wow. Some people out there are seriously fucking tweaked, and just get off on antagonizing other people. Makes me sick.
Also, being a douchebag gets you attention, and it's far better to not be as awesome in tournaments but be an attention-grabbing asshole as opposed to the polite guy that places very high. The former will attract more sponsors.
What I hate about the culture is the shit that tries to artificially wedge itself in the culture. This is perhaps most evident in a lot of the music. Johnathon Coulton does a lot of geekier topics but has done other stuff, whereas you have this whole "nerdcore" subgenre that feels so forced you can see the scrape marks.
Oh god so this. I call this "Beat up in High School" syndrome, where anything that the "cool kids" enjoy is automatically bad. In some cases I have seen it extend as far as demonizing alcohol, and even sexuality.
I believe it also links into the "'Nice Guy' who thinks girls only date jerks" archetype.
It's like hating on Madden and its fans for the sole reason it came from the US.
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"Early onset Get-off-my-Lawnism" is another type of this behavior.
I had a coworker that mercilessly ripped on any popular game just because it was popular and available on a current generation console. If it wasn't some obscure game that sold 100 copies 10 years ago, it was garbage and you were stupid for enjoying it. He was about 27 or 28 when I worked with him.
I actually have the exact opposite pet peeve - I hate how widely disdained pro gaming leagues are in the gaming community. Any time I see a post on one of the game news sites that has anything even tangentially to do with competitive gaming, even if it's only a minute part, like a quote from a player or something, the comments are always vehemently negative about it.
I suspect there's an element of jealousy and "I could do that too!!" to it. But whatever the case, it's just really goddamn annoying, and I don't even really follow competitive gaming.
Another pet peeve is when I'm a part of a game's relatively small community and have a presence in the community, and how when people find out I'm gay I'll never be able to enter games without getting stupid fucking comments about it. Especially really ridiculously prurient questions about my sex life.
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There seems to be this weird divide between people who fetishize everything about Japan, and people who love to make fun of people who say anything positive about Japanese stuff. Often they're the same people too.