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Also rumored upcoming changes: Guardian Angel will now interrupt all spells if you get killed, not just channeling. This means no more death-spinning as Garen, and it will kill off Morgana's ult too.
It is very probable that Zhonya's Ring gets the same treatment.
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but according to the test realm files there's going to be a new map called Caldera?
Also a hero called Leblanc who uses orbs, a hero called Swain who uses ravens, a hero called Sona, and a hero called Cassiopiea. Apparently another Noxus vs. Demacia hero is coming up, and a hero/heroes that use spell combination (like Invoker) are coming up.
Sona was just hinted at in the Journal of Justice, so that'll be cool. (Maybe the other Freljord princesses will make it in also.) Sona's the mute songstress. I don't *think* the others have been hinted at yet.
Alright I'm playing around in practice games as Warwick right now and I've hit a bit of a conundrum about jungling locations.
I go 21/0/10 (I'd like 30% neutral buffs instead of 15%, but 5% total damage is a lot to sacrifice isn't it?). I select Smite and Exhaust (should I pick flash?). In base, I buy cloth armor and 2 potions (although I only need one).
Skill-wise I go Hunter's Call -> Hungering Strike -> Hunter's Call -> Hungering Strike -> Blood Scent -> Ult -> max out Hungering Strike, then max out Hunter's call?
Here's my current method:
I go '1' (use Smite) -> '2' -> '3' -> '5' (use Smite) -> '4'. I then immediately recall and buy Madred's. I then run straight to dragon and, although my blue aura is gone, I seem to beat dragon easily enough without potions or anything and he dies at 5:30.
At this point, I'm level 5 so I'm not quite ready to gank but I don't know the right way to get to level 6. Above me is the enemy jungle with golem and the other creep camp. Below me '3' and '4' spawned (wraths and mini-golems). I'm pretty sure if I go either way it won't get me sufficiently to level 6, and it's an awkward waste of time running from one end of the map to the other like that.
Is this a product of a poor jungling path I've taken? I thought downing dragon at 5:30 was cool. Should I hang out in bush at bottom until I hit level 6 and then jump out for the gank? I dunno what to do!
Also rumored upcoming changes: Guardian Angel will now interrupt all spells if you get killed, not just channeling. This means no more death-spinning as Garen, and it will kill off Morgana's ult too.
It is very probable that Zhonya's Ring gets the same treatment.
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but according to the test realm files there's going to be a new map called Caldera?
Also a hero called Leblanc who uses orbs, a hero called Swain who uses ravens, a hero called Sona, and a hero called Cassiopiea. Apparently another Noxus vs. Demacia hero is coming up, and a hero/heroes that use spell combination (like Invoker) are coming up.
Sona was just hinted at in the Journal of Justice, so that'll be cool. (Maybe the other Freljord princesses will make it in also.) Sona's the mute songstress. I don't *think* the others have been hinted at yet.
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Alright I'm playing around in practice games as Warwick right now and I've hit a bit of a conundrum about jungling locations.
I go 21/0/10 (I'd like 30% neutral buffs instead of 15%, but 5% total damage is a lot to sacrifice isn't it?). I select Smite and Exhaust (should I pick flash?). In base, I buy cloth armor and 2 potions (although I only need one).
Skill-wise I go Hunter's Call -> Hungering Strike -> Hunter's Call -> Hungering Strike -> Blood Scent -> Ult -> max out Hungering Strike, then max out Hunter's call?
Here's my current method:
I go '1' (use Smite) -> '2' -> '3' -> '5' (use Smite) -> '4'. I then immediately recall and buy Madred's. I then run straight to dragon and, although my blue aura is gone, I seem to beat dragon easily enough without potions or anything and he dies at 5:30.
At this point, I'm level 5 so I'm not quite ready to gank but I don't know the right way to get to level 6. Above me is the enemy jungle with golem and the other creep camp. Below me '3' and '4' spawned (wraths and mini-golems). I'm pretty sure if I go either way it won't get me sufficiently to level 6, and it's an awkward waste of time running from one end of the map to the other like that.
Is this a product of a poor jungling path I've taken? I thought downing dragon at 5:30 was cool. Should I hang out in bush at bottom until I hit level 6 and then jump out for the gank? I dunno what to do!
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Also rumored upcoming changes: Guardian Angel will now interrupt all spells if you get killed, not just channeling. This means no more death-spinning as Garen, and it will kill off Morgana's ult too.
It is very probable that Zhonya's Ring gets the same treatment.
Anyone playing DPS Malphite? I've been dominating in the early game, but have a hard time keeping it going as the game goes on. Last game I started 9-2-1 + 1 tower (everyone else had 3 kills or less), but ended the game only 16-10-16 + 5 towers. I mean that's a good score, but not that amazing considering the start. I mean I still do a lot of cc at the end of the game and my damage is pretty solid, but I can't really carry like other chars would be able to with that kind of start.
EDIT: By DPS Malphite, I mean the only "tanky" items I build are ninja boots and phage.
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Also rumored upcoming changes: Guardian Angel will now interrupt all spells if you get killed, not just channeling. This means no more death-spinning as Garen, and it will kill off Morgana's ult too.
It is very probable that Zhonya's Ring gets the same treatment.
Morgana's Ult is not broken. It works perfectly fine as is. Stop bitching, I'm still pissed at you from last night.
He's not saying the ult is broken. He's saying that any stun/snare ult that can utilize zonya's or anything else to become uninterruptable is broken. This is a problem with Zonya's not the ult itself.
*Edit* Does it go off when she's dead? I'm pretty sure it only continue if she has GA up.
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Anyone playing DPS Malphite? I've been dominating in the early game, but have a hard time keeping it going as the game goes on. Last game I started 9-2-1 + 1 tower (everyone else had 3 kills or less), but ended the game only 16-10-16 + 5 towers. I mean that's a good score, but not that amazing considering the start. I mean I still do a lot of cc at the end of the game and my damage is pretty solid, but I can't really carry like other chars would be able to with that kind of start.
EDIT: By DPS Malphite, I mean the only "tanky" items I build are ninja boots and phage.
No, that's sort of crazy. Malphite throws himself into battle and needs some mitigation to take beatings for the team.
Morgana's Ult is not broken. It works perfectly fine as is. Stop bitching, I'm still pissed at you from last night.
He's not saying the ult is broken. He's saying that any stun/snare ult that can utilize zonya's or anything else to become uninterruptable is broken. This is a problem with Zonya's not the ult itself.
*Edit* Does it go off when she's dead? I'm pretty sure it only continue if she has GA up.
That's what I mean
She's dead, ressing
But good you get counterpicked wahhh if only you had a shield that's black the protects you from magical abilities
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DPS Maphite is very underwhelming since his Q and R work off AP, W is AD, and E is armor
You really can't maximize DPS properly going one stat without making half of your skills less effective
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Morgana's Ult is not broken. It works perfectly fine as is. Stop bitching, I'm still pissed at you from last night.
He's not saying the ult is broken. He's saying that any stun/snare ult that can utilize zonya's or anything else to become uninterruptable is broken. This is a problem with Zonya's not the ult itself.
*Edit* Does it go off when she's dead? I'm pretty sure it only continue if she has GA up.
That's what I mean
She's dead, ressing
But good you get counterpicked wahhh if only you had a shield that's black the protects you from magical abilities
It actually breaks pretty easily to magical damage. ;X
I mean, Morgana's arguably at her most rage inducing not through stuff like this, but when she Black Shields Nunu/Galio so they can't be CC'd out of their ults.
(And then she ults on top of that olol)
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Morgana's Ult is not broken. It works perfectly fine as is. Stop bitching, I'm still pissed at you from last night.
He's not saying the ult is broken. He's saying that any stun/snare ult that can utilize zonya's or anything else to become uninterruptable is broken. This is a problem with Zonya's not the ult itself.
*Edit* Does it go off when she's dead? I'm pretty sure it only continue if she has GA up.
That's what I mean
She's dead, ressing
But good you get counterpicked wahhh if only you had a shield that's black the protects you from magical abilities
It actually breaks pretty easily to magical damage. ;X
I mean, Morgana's arguably at her most rage inducing not through stuff like this, but when she Black Shields Nunu/Galio so they can't be CC'd out of their ults.
(And then she ults on top of that olol)
I know that and I don't care
I highly dislike get out of jail free cards
Oh hi my ult is not basically no risk for a giant amount of damage that snares THEN stuns
Fan-fucking-tastic that's fun to play against if the player is competent.
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Alright I'm playing around in practice games as Warwick right now and I've hit a bit of a conundrum about jungling locations.
I go 21/0/10 (I'd like 30% neutral buffs instead of 15%, but 5% total damage is a lot to sacrifice isn't it?). I select Smite and Exhaust (should I pick flash?). In base, I buy cloth armor and 2 potions (although I only need one).
Skill-wise I go Hunter's Call -> Hungering Strike -> Hunter's Call -> Hungering Strike -> Blood Scent -> Ult -> max out Hungering Strike, then max out Hunter's call?
Here's my current method:
I go '1' (use Smite) -> '2' -> '3' -> '5' (use Smite) -> '4'. I then immediately recall and buy Madred's. I then run straight to dragon and, although my blue aura is gone, I seem to beat dragon easily enough without potions or anything and he dies at 5:30.
At this point, I'm level 5 so I'm not quite ready to gank but I don't know the right way to get to level 6. Above me is the enemy jungle with golem and the other creep camp. Below me '3' and '4' spawned (wraths and mini-golems). I'm pretty sure if I go either way it won't get me sufficiently to level 6, and it's an awkward waste of time running from one end of the map to the other like that.
Is this a product of a poor jungling path I've taken? I thought downing dragon at 5:30 was cool. Should I hang out in bush at bottom until I hit level 6 and then jump out for the gank? I dunno what to do!
Having tested with Cloth Armor and Long Sword, the Long Sword seems like the more efficient pick.
It's a waste to kill the Golem & Lizard that early almost any way you look at it; you'll want to hit 4 -> 3 (Use Smite on the Blue Wraith) -> 2, jump across the river and either:
a) kill the enemy jungler if they've got one
or
b) go for the mini golem camp, wraith camp and finally wolves.
Check mid & bottom at this point. If there's an opening for a gank from the river and you've got Exhaust ready, go gank. If there's no opening for a gank or you used-up Exhaust killing an enemy jungler, recall back to base & get Madred's.
Go down the dragon, then repeat killing the generic neutrals until you hit 6. Only after you've hit six do you want to go kill Golem + Lizard, and make full use of their auras by setting up a gank for whichever lane needs it most.
As soon as you upgrade to Madred's Bloodrazor, you should be able to solo Baron. Whether or not this is a good idea I'm not really sure - it's pretty time-intensive and it denies your team the opportunity to grab the buff collectively.
Item-wise, my build is usually something like:
Madred's Bloodrazor (Built Long Sword -> Madred's Razor -> Madred's Bloodrazor)
Berserker Greaves
Last Whisper
Bloodthirster (Built Vampiric Scepter -> Bloodthirster)
Phantom Dancer (if there's time, built Zeal -> Phantom Dancer)
Infinity Edge (if somehow the game goes ulta, ultra long)
Power-wise:
Hungering Strike
Hunter's Call
If there's an enemy jungler, Blood Scent; otherwise, Hungering Strike
It varies from here, depending on the enemy configuration. I tend to pump Blood Scent and Hungering Strike for squishies, Hunter's Call and Hungering Strike for tanks.
By no means am I an expert, of course, but this stuff has served me well enough so far. Oh - and never trust the game's fucked-up pathfinding. I can't tell you how many times a gank got screwed-up because the pathing had me run into a lane at the wrong place.
Incorrect. Heimer is now mostly balanced. His laning game is still strong and he is still a powerhouse of magic damage lategame. Grenade does even more damage and you don't have to waste mana spamming it on towers, which gives you a little more leeway on items. Heimer used to be unforgivingly manahungry before (lay down 3 turret nest, grenade tower, etc.) he now plays more appropriately like a positional nuker. Rockets are awesome.
He's the only character I feel like I have a chance with in solo queue. I just won three out of four games (!) totally carrying the team just barking orders in chat and pinging like a madman.
I'm not even good at this game but I feel like I have some connection to the sad mummy.
Also rumored upcoming changes: Guardian Angel will now interrupt all spells if you get killed, not just channeling. This means no more death-spinning as Garen, and it will kill off Morgana's ult too.
It is very probable that Zhonya's Ring gets the same treatment.
Zhonya's was kind of the key to getting your ult off as AP Morgana without getting blown the fuck up in the meantime. =(
No one should have an invincible snare/stun so fuck you
Um, lots of characters have instant snare/stuns? Annie's tibbers for example? If you don't want to get stunned by Morgana's ult, you could, you know, walk out of it.
The ult continuing during GA is weird, though.
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Forgot to say that Morgana's ultimate still running during GA and Zhonya's? According to Riot, it's a BUG.
Christ, I'm possibly the greatest Morgana fanatic of these forums and I approve of these changes. She's actually pretty well balanced as is, and thank god Riot realised this and debugged items instead of caving in to the goosey LoL forums and nerfing her to the ground.
He's the only character I feel like I have a chance with in solo queue. I just won three out of four games (!) totally carrying the team just barking orders in chat and pinging like a madman.
I'm not even good at this game but I feel like I have some connection to the sad mummy.
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Sona was just hinted at in the Journal of Justice, so that'll be cool. (Maybe the other Freljord princesses will make it in also.) Sona's the mute songstress. I don't *think* the others have been hinted at yet.
I go 21/0/10 (I'd like 30% neutral buffs instead of 15%, but 5% total damage is a lot to sacrifice isn't it?). I select Smite and Exhaust (should I pick flash?). In base, I buy cloth armor and 2 potions (although I only need one).
Skill-wise I go Hunter's Call -> Hungering Strike -> Hunter's Call -> Hungering Strike -> Blood Scent -> Ult -> max out Hungering Strike, then max out Hunter's call?
Here's my current method:
I go '1' (use Smite) -> '2' -> '3' -> '5' (use Smite) -> '4'. I then immediately recall and buy Madred's. I then run straight to dragon and, although my blue aura is gone, I seem to beat dragon easily enough without potions or anything and he dies at 5:30.
At this point, I'm level 5 so I'm not quite ready to gank but I don't know the right way to get to level 6. Above me is the enemy jungle with golem and the other creep camp. Below me '3' and '4' spawned (wraths and mini-golems). I'm pretty sure if I go either way it won't get me sufficiently to level 6, and it's an awkward waste of time running from one end of the map to the other like that.
Is this a product of a poor jungling path I've taken? I thought downing dragon at 5:30 was cool. Should I hang out in bush at bottom until I hit level 6 and then jump out for the gank? I dunno what to do!
You ffffffffffing that means I hate you
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EDIT: By DPS Malphite, I mean the only "tanky" items I build are ninja boots and phage.
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No one should have an invincible snare/stun so fuck you
Broken shit needs to be unbroken and if you don't like it deal w/it
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He's not saying the ult is broken. He's saying that any stun/snare ult that can utilize zonya's or anything else to become uninterruptable is broken. This is a problem with Zonya's not the ult itself.
*Edit* Does it go off when she's dead? I'm pretty sure it only continue if she has GA up.
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There are enough heroes with knockbacks/pushes that you should be able to counterpick one, similar to how you would take one to screw over a Fiddles.
That's what I mean
She's dead, ressing
But good you get counterpicked wahhh if only you had a shield that's black the protects you from magical abilities
You really can't maximize DPS properly going one stat without making half of your skills less effective
I mean, Morgana's arguably at her most rage inducing not through stuff like this, but when she Black Shields Nunu/Galio so they can't be CC'd out of their ults.
(And then she ults on top of that olol)
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I know that and I don't care
I highly dislike get out of jail free cards
Oh hi my ult is not basically no risk for a giant amount of damage that snares THEN stuns
Fan-fucking-tastic that's fun to play against if the player is competent.
I think I'm in love. I soloed dragon at 5:30 and then soloed baron at level 16.
But only slightly
I'm going to skullfuck all of you. Be happy for my good game or else!
Terrible ToTP...
In other news, Heimer is now terribad :-D
Having tested with Cloth Armor and Long Sword, the Long Sword seems like the more efficient pick.
It's a waste to kill the Golem & Lizard that early almost any way you look at it; you'll want to hit 4 -> 3 (Use Smite on the Blue Wraith) -> 2, jump across the river and either:
a) kill the enemy jungler if they've got one
or
b) go for the mini golem camp, wraith camp and finally wolves.
Check mid & bottom at this point. If there's an opening for a gank from the river and you've got Exhaust ready, go gank. If there's no opening for a gank or you used-up Exhaust killing an enemy jungler, recall back to base & get Madred's.
Go down the dragon, then repeat killing the generic neutrals until you hit 6. Only after you've hit six do you want to go kill Golem + Lizard, and make full use of their auras by setting up a gank for whichever lane needs it most.
As soon as you upgrade to Madred's Bloodrazor, you should be able to solo Baron. Whether or not this is a good idea I'm not really sure - it's pretty time-intensive and it denies your team the opportunity to grab the buff collectively.
Item-wise, my build is usually something like:
Madred's Bloodrazor (Built Long Sword -> Madred's Razor -> Madred's Bloodrazor)
Berserker Greaves
Last Whisper
Bloodthirster (Built Vampiric Scepter -> Bloodthirster)
Phantom Dancer (if there's time, built Zeal -> Phantom Dancer)
Infinity Edge (if somehow the game goes ulta, ultra long)
Power-wise:
Hungering Strike
Hunter's Call
If there's an enemy jungler, Blood Scent; otherwise, Hungering Strike
It varies from here, depending on the enemy configuration. I tend to pump Blood Scent and Hungering Strike for squishies, Hunter's Call and Hungering Strike for tanks.
By no means am I an expert, of course, but this stuff has served me well enough so far. Oh - and never trust the game's fucked-up pathfinding. I can't tell you how many times a gank got screwed-up because the pathing had me run into a lane at the wrong place.
Was it Slicer?
He's the only character I feel like I have a chance with in solo queue. I just won three out of four games (!) totally carrying the team just barking orders in chat and pinging like a madman.
I'm not even good at this game but I feel like I have some connection to the sad mummy.
bagel plays a disgusting udyr
Um, lots of characters have instant snare/stuns? Annie's tibbers for example? If you don't want to get stunned by Morgana's ult, you could, you know, walk out of it.
The ult continuing during GA is weird, though.
Christ, I'm possibly the greatest Morgana fanatic of these forums and I approve of these changes. She's actually pretty well balanced as is, and thank god Riot realised this and debugged items instead of caving in to the goosey LoL forums and nerfing her to the ground.
Welcome to the club.
Ok yea that's who I was thinkin bout.
I need some jungling advice from the bagelman.
I've got access to both 20-champ bundles (and no other champs), so sorting by "Tank" means I can't play Galio, Gragas, Mordekaiser, or Vladimir.
My options are Alistair, Blitzcrank, Cho'Gath, Dr. Mundo, Nasus, Nunu, Rammus, Singed, Sion, Taric.
I've tried Blitzcrank (not so much my style) and Taric (not really similar to Amumu at all). Who's the best guy to try next? Alistair? Nunu? Rammus?
Rammus is lots of fun.
Rammus is pretty much the tanks tank, so you may enjoy him.
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