New XBox 360 controller

RandomEngy

Did not see a thread about this.

http://www.xbox.com/en-us/hardware/x/xbox360wirelesscontrollerdpad




Basically, a new 360 controller with monochromatic ABXY buttons, concave analog sticks and a weird transforming D-pad. Only comes with the Play & Charge kit for $65.

My thoughts: Couldn't they just pick the best feel for a D-Pad and have that? Why do they have a disc mode? And doesn't washing all the color out of the ABXY buttons make the color cues from on-screen button prompts rather useless if you have not memorized the button colors already?

Ferrus

Aren't there, like, rubber covers for your D-pad and the analog sticks anyway?

The metallic look makes no sense without a similar console coloring.

mastrius

Well I think it looks cool at least. Sadly though even with an improved d-pad I wont be using the new d-pad because I've gotten too used to having to not use the fucking thing due to it sucking so much. I can't just try to get used to it again.

Beltaine

Seeing as how some people pay nearly $200 for custom 360 controllers, M$ just wanted to get in on the action.

Cannon Goose

Are on-screen button prompts going to be monochrome as well? This controller doesn't even really match with the new Black and sleek Xbox 360, so I'm not really sure what they're trying here stylistically.

Valleo

I had heard that the new 360 came with controllers that had a better D pad that the older models. I realise this transforming D pad is different, but was I misinformed about the 360 S controllers?

Kor

1) You should probably post a picture with the dpad in the other configuration

2) The idea is that you'll have something fit for classic arcade titles, while the other config works for fighting games and such.

3) The color hues aren't going to hurt anything. We made it through the SNES generation just fine.*


In Japan the SNES controller had ABXY and Red/Yellow/Blue/Green. Anywhere else had two purples, and two grey-purples.

Skull2185

Cannon Goose wrote: »

Are on-screen button prompts going to be monochrome as well? This controller doesn't even really match with the new Black and sleek Xbox 360, so I'm not really sure what they're trying here stylistically.

Pretty sure everyone knows which color goes with which button by now anyways.

adytum

Skull2185 wrote: »

Cannon Goose wrote: »

Are on-screen button prompts going to be monochrome as well? This controller doesn't even really match with the new Black and sleek Xbox 360, so I'm not really sure what they're trying here stylistically.

Pretty sure everyone knows which color goes with which button by now anyways.

I don't, but I don't have an xbox and it makes playing games on one incredibly frustrating.

ben0207

Kor wrote: »

1) You should probably post a picture with the dpad in the other configuration

2) The idea is that you'll have something fit for classic arcade titles, while the other config works for fighting games and such.

3) The color hues aren't going to hurt anything. We made it through the SNES generation just fine.*


In Japan the SNES controller had ABXY and Red/Yellow/Blue/Green. Anywhere else had two purples, and two grey-purples.

Europe had the colours too.

Synthesis

Can I get it in black? And without the charging kit?

(I would imagine yes, though it'll just involve a bit of waiting.)

adytum wrote: »

I don't, but I don't have an xbox and it makes playing games on one incredibly frustrating.

Don't ever change, adytum.

Gibbs

I still have issues with SNES Y-X-B-A being permanently marked in my brain.

Dragkonias

...I can't say I get the thing about the color hues.

I mean, who looks at their controller while they're playing the game anyway?

That being said. It does look pretty sexy and if it has a better D-pad I'm interested.


But I already have 3 Xbox controllers and 2 fightpads at the moment so I can't say I'm in a hurry to buy one.

Xalterax

It looks slick, but I'm still a bit iffy on 60.00. I'll be waiting for reviews on whether or not the new d-pad is more of a true d-pad than a disguised analog stick. In the meantime my current controllers will suffice.

I'll probably end up caving eventually though. :...:

Skull2185

I wish someone would just make an XBOX360 controller with a PS3 d-pad on it.

Fighting games are unplayable on the 360 unless you have a joystick thing.

Joolander

transforming d-pad?

what does that even mean? and why is it helpful?

Barrabas

PS3 d-pad is still terrible as well. Just less terrible than the 360.

Dragkonias

The PS3 d-pad isn't that much better either. I mean, it's alright...but no D-pad has come close to the Sega Saturn's.

Synthesis

Not a big fan of the DS3's pad either. I can make circular motions something of an annoyance to do.

Then again, you get used to it. My friend gave me an Xbox 360 arcade stick, free, and I've just stared at it because I'm so used to using a gamepad.

EDIT: Still waiting on the new 'S' controllers to appear in stores without the recharge kit. They're sort of dragging their feet on that.

Skull2185

Joolander wrote: »

transforming d-pad?

what does that even mean? and why is it helpful?

You can twist it, anf like... the d buttons raise up or someting, instead of being a disc

Joolander

Skull2185 wrote: »

Joolander wrote: »

transforming d-pad?

what does that even mean? and why is it helpful?

You can twist it, anf like... the d buttons raise up or someting, instead of being a disc

k found the video

weird

i wonder if it will actually work to improve the response

Krudler

I'm not sure I get it. Internally is this still the same horrid Dpad the Xbox controller's always had? If so, they are almost literally polishing a turd with this.

Leitner

Not a Duke.

Still, I dig the monochrome buttons, I always though the primary colours looked so gaudy.

deadonthestreet

Sixty Five US Dollars

I just can't get over that. Yikes.

Orogogus

RandomEngy wrote: »

My thoughts: Couldn't they just pick the best feel for a D-Pad and have that? Why do they have a disc mode?

What I said in the old video games sales thread was that solutions that are this obviously strange (at least in the industry I work in) are usually an effort to get around a patent. I can't think of any reason to use the disk mode, anyway.

Synthesis

I think all the Xbox controllers with charger kits cost that much.

I actually don't want a charger kit, and I wouldn't mind saving the money towards another game.

Dragkonias

Well...that is with the charge and play kit.

Once it is released separately it'll probably be the same price as the others.

Synthesis

As I said, still waiting for the black chrome controller to be released separately. Waiting game, etc.

urahonky

Skull2185 wrote: »

Cannon Goose wrote: »

Are on-screen button prompts going to be monochrome as well? This controller doesn't even really match with the new Black and sleek Xbox 360, so I'm not really sure what they're trying here stylistically.

Pretty sure everyone knows which color goes with which button by now anyways.

My wife doesn't. At least not yet.

Rex Dart

urahonky wrote: »

Skull2185 wrote: »

Cannon Goose wrote: »

Are on-screen button prompts going to be monochrome as well? This controller doesn't even really match with the new Black and sleek Xbox 360, so I'm not really sure what they're trying here stylistically.

Pretty sure everyone knows which color goes with which button by now anyways.

My wife doesn't. At least not yet.

In my experience, quite a number of people who aren't familiar with video games start learning the controls via colors. "Oh, so the red button does this, and the green button does that?" Shades of gray aren't as useful for that.

Also, I don't need a play and charge kit, 'cause I got awesome rechargeable batteries.

Waiting game for me. I'd love an improved D-pad, but want it affordable and colorful.

Synthesis

Rex Dart wrote: »

Also, I don't need a play and charge kit, 'cause I got awesome rechargeable batteries.

Waiting game for me. I'd love an improved D-pad, but want it affordable and colorful.

For what it's worth, sir, you are my bro.

GnomeTank

I use the rechargeable packs, but I have a charger stand, so the charge and play kit is largely useless to me. I do like the style of this controller though, so I may pick one up when it's sold by itself.

localhjay

i like the play and charge kit because it's easy to plug right in if it dies on you. what irks me is that this couldn't have been included with the slim 360.
i know there's probably a good reason but it would have been nice to get them in one package, and if they do start packing these in with the slim 360s i will be even more annoyed.

that said i do want one of these
buttholes

GnomeTank

I have four of the battery packs, so I can keep two on the charging stand, one spare, and one in my controller. I didn't actually buy four of the rechargable packs, I just happened upon them all somehow.

TurboGuard

Classic controller has the best D-pad this generation, hands down.

Playing Super Metroid and Castlevania IV with it is pure bliss.

tastydonuts

Hey wow, now we can all experience looking at an xbox 360 controller if we had near complete color blindness!

I haven't had many problems with my controller design, they just need to be more durable imo. I have like 4 battery packs too (one for each controller). The color scheme may make it a buy for me, if I don't buy a Reach controller instead. Kind of bored with my Red one.

localhjay

video of controller and d-pad
also a comparison pic

i really want one. i'm such a whore.

Bartholamue

TurboGuard wrote: »

Classic controller has the best D-pad this generation, hands down.

Playing Super Metroid and Castlevania IV with it is pure bliss.

I cannot agree more.

EggPuppet

So, is this ready to plug-and-play on a PC? Will there be a wired alternative version?

I'd love to hear a hands-on assessment from someone who plays fighting games.

Zerokku

TurboGuard wrote: »

Classic controller has the best D-pad this generation, hands down.

Playing Super Metroid and Castlevania IV with it is pure bliss.

Isn't it using the same one as the DS lite?

If so I disagree. Too mushy. I'd have to say DSi. Nice and clicky with good diagonals.

Frem

Orogogus wrote: »

RandomEngy wrote: »

My thoughts: Couldn't they just pick the best feel for a D-Pad and have that? Why do they have a disc mode?

What I said in the old video games sales thread was that solutions that are this obviously strange (at least in the industry I work in) are usually an effort to get around a patent. I can't think of any reason to use the disk mode, anyway.

Didn't Nintendo's d-pad patent expire a few years ago, though?