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Uh oh...non-cook + cast iron = calamity?

RaynagaRaynaga Registered User regular
edited September 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
So, I'm not much of a cook. I enjoy doing it, but I don't enjoy the frequent visits by 'emergency personnel' and 'costly damages.'

I once started a fire with a pop tart. Enough said.

My girlfriend, in a kind but perhaps over ambitious gesture bought me a cast iron skillet with which to cook various cookeries.

Tonight I made a steak with it. I had to retreat to my porch for about an hour until the smoke all cleared out.

Steak was good!

The downside is the skillet now looks...off. Picture below:

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I know you aren't supposed to put them through a dishwasher, or use soap on them. So I've used water and paper towels, and it seems to make it worse.

Have I destroyed this thing within 24 hours of getting it, or is there some secret to cast iron skillet wielding that I am not aware of?

Thanks in advance.

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    You just need to reseason it.

    It's virtually impossible to destroy cast iron. If it's not cracked, you can fix it.

    http://www.lodgemfg.com/use-care-seasoned-cast-iron.asp#3

    The Lodge website has lots of good care tips. For future reference, after you wash and dry it you should be putting alight coating of vegetable oil or shortening on it to keep it seasoned.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Did you use a lot of oil? Cast iron will easily exceed the smoke point of most cooking oils, and you don't need much.

    Like RUNN1NGMAN said, it's nearly impossible to destroy one. I just sprinkle kosher salt in mine and rub it around with a dry paper towel, no water or anything.

    edit: Also I hate electric stoves.

    edit 2:
    Place 10 to 12-inch cast iron skillet in oven and heat oven to 500 degrees. Bring steak(s) to room temperature.
    When oven reaches temperature, remove pan and place on range over high heat. Coat steak lightly with oil and season both sides with a generous pinch of salt. Grind on black pepper to taste.
    Immediately place steak in the middle of hot, dry pan. Cook 30 seconds without moving. Turn with tongs and cook another 30 seconds, then put the pan straight into the oven for 2 minutes.
    Flip steak and cook for another 2 minutes. (This time is for medium rare steaks. If you prefer medium, add a minute to both of the oven turns.) Remove steak from pan, cover loosely with foil, and rest for 2 minutes. Serve whole or slice thin and fan onto plate.

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    Did you use a lot of oil? Cast iron will easily exceed the smoke point of most cooking oils, and you don't need much.

    Like RUNN1NGMAN said, it's nearly impossible to destroy one. I just sprinkle kosher salt in mine and rub it around with a dry paper towel, no water or anything.

    In my opinion, Olive Oil is the worst, Canola is ok, but as long as you're not allergic, Peanut oil is the best. Both canola and peanut have high smoke points.

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  • soxboxsoxbox Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    It's hard to tell from the photo, but it looks like you may have bought a skillet that wasn't preseasoned - go through the seasoning process and all will be good.

    The smoke problem is almost definitely the oil's fault - look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_point - I tend to use a spray canola oil fairly sparingly. You probably used a vegetable oil or possible a virgin olive?

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    A good rule of thumb when cooking with cast iron: oil the meat, not the pan

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  • RaynagaRaynaga Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Well from what I understand it was a preseasoned skillet, and she also did some kind of seasoning alchemy with it after the giving; this involved the skillet, the oven, and butter(?) I believe.

    And yeah, everything I read said you put a little olive oil on the steak, but all I had was...uh...vegetable oil.

    So I used that. On the steak, not the pan, and with a little steak rub. So looks like I didn't totally screw that part up. Maybe I used too much? No brush to spread it with, so I just kind of did a dollop on each side and slathered it around with my hand.

    On the oven bit I read that as well, but baby steps here - instead of the 30 seconds to 1 minute per side and then transitioning to the oven, I did 3 minutes each side on the pan and then devoured. Outside.

    My place still smells like smoke, steak, and char.

    Good to hear I haven't ruined it completely, looks like I just have to get a brush, some soap, and start the skillet over from scratch after scrubbing the hell out of it.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Raynaga wrote: »
    My place still smells like smoke, steak, and char.

    Mmm...

    I set off the smoke alarm a few times at our apartment when cooking. 8-)

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  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Raynaga wrote: »
    And yeah, everything I read said you put a little olive oil on the steak, but all I had was...uh...vegetable oil.

    As others mentioned, there's quite a range of oils that are acceptable. I don't think vegetable oil is really a problem, just not ideal. For the food I mean, your kitchen air may be another matter.
    So I used that. On the steak, not the pan, and with a little steak rub. So looks like I didn't totally screw that part up. Maybe I used too much? No brush to spread it with, so I just kind of did a dollop on each side and slathered it around with my hand.

    To blatantly regurgitate advice from Alton Brown's cookbook "I'm Just Here For The Food," a cheap spray bottle will work for spreading the oil without creating a greasy mess. And in any case, you'll want to let the meat sit on a resting rack of some sort for a few minutes after the oil and rub to let the excess drip off.

    Also, you should pick up a copy of said cookbook. It's not as heavy on recipes as many others out there but it goes into the science of cooking so you understand how different methods work better and therefore how to lessen your chances of screwing them up.
    On the oven bit I read that as well, but baby steps here - instead of the 30 seconds to 1 minute per side and then transitioning to the oven, I did 3 minutes each side on the pan and then devoured. Outside.

    Searing alone can result in a tasty steak. Three minutes may have been too much though that depends on the thickness and how well done you want it.
    My place still smells like smoke, steak, and char.

    I have yet to not have my kitchen smell in a similar way after preparing a steak, but experience has put the emphasis on the steak smell more than any smoke or char smell. I hardly mind given that I think they should make a steak scented potpourri.

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Raynaga wrote: »
    Well from what I understand it was a preseasoned skillet, and she also did some kind of seasoning alchemy with it after the giving; this involved the skillet, the oven, and butter(?) I believe.

    If she seasoned the skillet with butter that may very well have been what was burning
    guest: How would you properly season a pan?
    AltonBrown: I'm going to guess that you mean seasoning a cast-iron pan. I use Crisco shortening. It is very highly refined, and I drop a small spoonful of it into said skillet. I stick it in a 350-degree oven until the shortening melts. I then extract said vessel, and implement a paper towel to smear the fat all over the pan, handle and everything. I then pick up the pan and return it to the 350-degree oven for an hour. Do not drop it at any point during this process! Turn the oven off, let the pan cool down, wipe off the excess oil, and put it away.

    Though I've been most happy with peanut oil as a cast-iron seasoning fat, so whatever works for you

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Crisco is lardesque in its smoke point. My personal method for seasoning a pan uses lard, because you get lard from bacon, and that means you have to cook bacon first. How is that not a perfect method for seasoning a pan?

    Get uncured bacon. Cook it. Let the grease cool a little and then put through a sieve (something basic), let it cool the rest of the way, et voila, lard. BTW that bacon you cooked up will probably need some salt & pepper seasoning, but you can do that according to taste.

    Anyway, now that you have lard, slather it with a paper towel all over the pan. Then I essentially do the same thing as Alton, put it on the oven for an hour. Lard won't make it smoky, although it doesn't taste as good as butter (but won't burn like butter). The reason I like it more is because it's kind of silly to buy Crisco just to season a pan, but if you have it around it can't hurt. Basically any fat will work, because what you do when seasoning is putting a layer of carbon on the iron. In your case, it looks like the "alchemy" wasn't done to completion as all the goop burned off instead, which is why your kitchen smells like burnt ass. Once it's seasoned properly you'll have a nice slick pan.

    So my advice is to scrape all that existing black gunk off your pan and then season it yourself. It's not hard, it just takes a little time.

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Yeah, you DO NOT want to season a pan with butter. It burns and it will also go rancid and make everything you cook taste like shit.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Yeah, butter has a lot of stuff in it that is not fat. That stuff either evaporates without helping season or just burns and fucks shit up.

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  • Mad JazzMad Jazz gotta go fast AustinRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Just make sure when you season it that you fully carbonize all the fat you put on there. Make sure nothing is pooling in the bottom (turn the thing upside down on the oven rack over a drip pan), and I would probably give it more than an hour, especially at 350 (which, again, depends on the smoke point of the fat you're using). The other thing to look out for is seasoning in an oven that's too hot, which happened to me the first time I tried to season my skillet. I put the thing in a 500+ degree oven for like 4 hours between coats of oil, and the first time I tried to clean it, the seasoning started to come off.

    That's another thing: multiple coats is good. It builds up a nice thick layer and makes the seasoning much more stable and can get you to the promised land of a completely baked in no-stick decliciously flavored indestructible pan.

    Also, don't cook anything acidic (like tomato based pasta sauces with browned meat) in your cast iron, that shit will eat away at the seasoning and fuck it up, something else I learned the hard way.

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  • RaynagaRaynaga Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Wow, thanks for all the info guys. Though I will say cooking was hard enough for me when I didn't have to worry about what foods would work in what skillet.

    And it looks like it was initially seasoned with butter. I'll look into getting some Crisco.

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  • ArrathArrath Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Huh, really? I cook my home made spaghetti sauce, various forms of tomatoes and browned meat and all, in my cast iron dutch oven. themoreyouknow.jpg

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Arrath wrote: »
    Huh, really? I cook my home made spaghetti sauce, various forms of tomatoes and browned meat and all, in my cast iron dutch oven. themoreyouknow.jpg

    You really don't need to worry about the acidity. There's actually something to be said for the extra iron you get. One article in favor.

    Put another way, I'd gladly take some iron over Teflon from a non-stick pan.

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  • RikushixRikushix VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    RUNN1NGMAN wrote: »
    Yeah, you DO NOT want to season a pan with butter. It burns and it will also go rancid and make everything you cook taste like shit.

    What about margarine? I use that when I'm not cooking with oil.

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  • ArrathArrath Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    Arrath wrote: »
    Huh, really? I cook my home made spaghetti sauce, various forms of tomatoes and browned meat and all, in my cast iron dutch oven. themoreyouknow.jpg

    You really don't need to worry about the acidity. There's actually something to be said for the extra iron you get. One article in favor.

    Put another way, I'd gladly take some iron over Teflon from a non-stick pan.

    I always figured the added iron was a bonus. I was worried for a bit there than I was damaging it or something.

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Rikushix wrote: »
    RUNN1NGMAN wrote: »
    Yeah, you DO NOT want to season a pan with butter. It burns and it will also go rancid and make everything you cook taste like shit.

    What about margarine? I use that when I'm not cooking with oil.

    I'm not entirely sure, but my instincts say helllll nooo.

    For seasoning anyway, margarine's probably not a problem for day to day cooking.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Rikushix wrote: »
    RUNN1NGMAN wrote: »
    Yeah, you DO NOT want to season a pan with butter. It burns and it will also go rancid and make everything you cook taste like shit.

    What about margarine? I use that when I'm not cooking with oil.

    If you're using it for cooking, whatever. Plain margarine is loaded with trans fats which are actually bad for you, though. The non-trans fat stuff has less fat content than butter, though, so it would probably be worse for seasoning a pan, although I've never tried it. A quick google says "don't do it."

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