Dante was always silly looking. He was a bundle of silly fantasy anime cliches. The whole style was "badass"
with an emphasis on the quotation marks.
This Dante does not look like a silly, goofy, self-aware video fame character. This one looks like it was dreamed up by a marketing executive who thought a phrase like "street art" would give him some kind of legitimacy.
It's also pandering to a demographic that I find somewhat pathetic and irritating, ie gloomy teenage boys.
These decisions do not bode well for the rest of the game.
I think you're transposing your personal issues onto this game.
Thats fine... thats your freedom to do that. But people like me... who just see a video game, with some teenager killing monsters... don't understand that.
Dante was always silly looking. He was a bundle of silly fantasy anime cliches. The whole style was "badass"
with an emphasis on the quotation marks.
This Dante does not look like a silly, goofy, self-aware video fame character. This one looks like it was dreamed up by a marketing executive who thought a phrase like "street art" would give him some kind of legitimacy.
It's also pandering to a demographic that I find somewhat pathetic and irritating, ie gloomy teenage boys.
These decisions do not bode well for the rest of the game.
Not much has changed.
Sounds like they want to bring some new blood into an older franchise. More power to them. I remember when I was a kid, y'know.
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Olivawgood name, isn't it?the foot of mt fujiRegistered Userregular
Dante was always silly looking. He was a bundle of silly fantasy anime cliches. The whole style was "badass"
with an emphasis on the quotation marks.
This Dante does not look like a silly, goofy, self-aware video fame character. This one looks like it was dreamed up by a marketing executive who thought a phrase like "street art" would give him some kind of legitimacy.
I don't think DMC became self-aware until 3
The rest seemed like typical super-serious anime bullshit
Dante was always silly looking. He was a bundle of silly fantasy anime cliches. The whole style was "badass"
with an emphasis on the quotation marks.
This Dante does not look like a silly, goofy, self-aware video fame character. This one looks like it was dreamed up by a marketing executive who thought a phrase like "street art" would give him some kind of legitimacy.
It's also pandering to a demographic that I find somewhat pathetic and irritating, ie gloomy teenage boys.
These decisions do not bode well for the rest of the game.
I think you're transposing your personal issues onto this game.
Thats fine... thats your freedom to do that. But people like me... who just see a video game, with some teenager killing monsters... don't understand that.
It's not personal issues, this thing has the stamp of the marketing department all over it. Trust me, this is far, FAR from the first thing to have this feel. This is the epitome of what the Simpsons parodied with Poochie 13 years ago.
I kind of like the look of it, the UKness is certainly coming through with the scummy look of dante.
I almost want them to go a bit further and have him look just a sliver more bedraggled and drug addled and give him a scottish accent. Trainspotting with guns and acrobatic combat.
Dude
I would play this game
Lots of slo mo stabbing demons with broken bottles.
...I have to stop now before I make myself sad that the game I'm imagining is not being made.
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Olivawgood name, isn't it?the foot of mt fujiRegistered Userregular
Dante was always silly looking. He was a bundle of silly fantasy anime cliches. The whole style was "badass"
with an emphasis on the quotation marks.
This Dante does not look like a silly, goofy, self-aware video fame character. This one looks like it was dreamed up by a marketing executive who thought a phrase like "street art" would give him some kind of legitimacy.
It's also pandering to a demographic that I find somewhat pathetic and irritating, ie gloomy teenage boys.
These decisions do not bode well for the rest of the game.
I think you're transposing your personal issues onto this game.
Thats fine... thats your freedom to do that. But people like me... who just see a video game, with some teenager killing monsters... don't understand that.
It's not personal issues, this thing has the stamp of the marketing department all over it. Trust me, this is far, FAR from the first thing to have this feel. This is the epitome of what the Simpsons parodied with Poochie 13 years ago.
They've Poochified Dante.
No, that's wrong
See, because Poochie was over the top cool with his skateboard and sunglasses and baggy pants and basketball and he rode off in a convertible with some bitches
If anything, Dante from DMC3 was Poochified
This Dante is designed not to appeal to kids who look cool things, but to troubled older kids who get picked on at school because they're different from all the other sheeple, man. He's like one step removed from The Crow, basically
And so far, it looks like it's doing a really excellent job at appealing to that demographic
I kind of like the look of it, the UKness is certainly coming through with the scummy look of dante.
I almost want them to go a bit further and have him look just a sliver more bedraggled and drug addled and give him a scottish accent. Trainspotting with guns and acrobatic combat.
Dude
I would play this game
Lots of slo mo stabbing demons with broken bottles.
...I have to stop now before I make myself sad that the game I'm imagining is not being made.
Dude I don't know, this game just got announced, they're still well into development
This Dante is designed not to appeal to kids who look cool things, but to troubled older kids who get picked on at school because they're different from all the other sheeple, man. He's like one step removed from The Crow, basically
That applies to every teenager who ever existed.
They should have had Platinum Games do this.
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Olivawgood name, isn't it?the foot of mt fujiRegistered Userregular
This Dante is designed not to appeal to kids who look cool things, but to troubled older kids who get picked on at school because they're different from all the other sheeple, man. He's like one step removed from The Crow, basically
That applies to every teenager who ever existed.
They should have had Platinum Games do this.
So it's really good marketing, then! Dollar signs, baby, dollar signs
And I think they should have Platinum Games do every game, but that's beside the point
Thanks for posting it. This is what I'm talking about. People making a big deal out of aesthetic changes... when they really don't matter that much... at least to me.
I'm excited by what I saw in the trailer because it looked like fun. People are just too eager to hate something and associate it with something else they dislike and cling to the things they are used to. I just care about if the game is fun and entertaining.
This Dante is designed not to appeal to kids who look cool things, but to troubled older kids who get picked on at school because they're different from all the other sheeple, man. He's like one step removed from The Crow, basically
That applies to every teenager who ever existed.
They should have had Platinum Games do this.
I really don't think they left capcom to make games for capcom haha. It would be hilarious though. Also Bayonetta is awesome.
Dante was always silly looking. He was a bundle of silly fantasy anime cliches. The whole style was "badass"
with an emphasis on the quotation marks.
This Dante does not look like a silly, goofy, self-aware video fame character. This one looks like it was dreamed up by a marketing executive who thought a phrase like "street art" would give him some kind of legitimacy.
It's also pandering to a demographic that I find somewhat pathetic and irritating, ie gloomy teenage boys.
These decisions do not bode well for the rest of the game.
I think you're transposing your personal issues onto this game.
Thats fine... thats your freedom to do that. But people like me... who just see a video game, with some teenager killing monsters... don't understand that.
It's not personal issues, this thing has the stamp of the marketing department all over it. Trust me, this is far, FAR from the first thing to have this feel. This is the epitome of what the Simpsons parodied with Poochie 13 years ago.
They've Poochified Dante.
No, that's wrong
See, because Poochie was over the top cool with his skateboard and sunglasses and baggy pants and basketball and he rode off in a convertible with some bitches
If anything, Dante from DMC3 was Poochified
This Dante is designed not to appeal to kids who look cool things, but to troubled older kids who get picked on at school because they're different from all the other sheeple, man. He's like one step removed from The Crow, basically
And so far, it looks like it's doing a really excellent job at appealing to that demographic
I can recognize quality pandering when I see it
But at least you recognize that it's pandering.
I realize that just about everything is at least slightly molded to appeal to a demographic nowadays, though I prefer that it be less violently blatant. It just rubs me the wrong way.
And as Cous said, the Twihards this appeals to is the 2010 version of Poochie.
Well I'm mostly excited. I loved Heavenly Sword. My only problem with it was that Hard should have really been the default normal and then there should have been 2 other difficulties. Other than that, the game was pretty great. I certainly liked it better than most of the DMC games I played.
I don't really care if Dante has black hair or white hair or whatever
I want a really good and really hard action game with excellent controls and a protagonist who surfs on missiles and trash talks every boss in the game.
I hope the game is self aware, the series works best when it both cherishes and lampoons ridiculous action movies and anime. Hopefully Dante is impaled within the first fifteen minutes (if he isn't, it isn't a real DMC game).
Not sure how to feel about Ninja Theory. The "street culture" quote is dumb as shit though. Doesn't mean the game will be bad, good developers say stupid things all the time.
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Olivawgood name, isn't it?the foot of mt fujiRegistered Userregular
Dante was always silly looking. He was a bundle of silly fantasy anime cliches. The whole style was "badass"
with an emphasis on the quotation marks.
This Dante does not look like a silly, goofy, self-aware video fame character. This one looks like it was dreamed up by a marketing executive who thought a phrase like "street art" would give him some kind of legitimacy.
It's also pandering to a demographic that I find somewhat pathetic and irritating, ie gloomy teenage boys.
These decisions do not bode well for the rest of the game.
I think you're transposing your personal issues onto this game.
Thats fine... thats your freedom to do that. But people like me... who just see a video game, with some teenager killing monsters... don't understand that.
It's not personal issues, this thing has the stamp of the marketing department all over it. Trust me, this is far, FAR from the first thing to have this feel. This is the epitome of what the Simpsons parodied with Poochie 13 years ago.
They've Poochified Dante.
No, that's wrong
See, because Poochie was over the top cool with his skateboard and sunglasses and baggy pants and basketball and he rode off in a convertible with some bitches
If anything, Dante from DMC3 was Poochified
This Dante is designed not to appeal to kids who look cool things, but to troubled older kids who get picked on at school because they're different from all the other sheeple, man. He's like one step removed from The Crow, basically
And so far, it looks like it's doing a really excellent job at appealing to that demographic
I can recognize quality pandering when I see it
But at least you recognize that it's pandering.
I realize that just about everything is at least slightly molded to appeal to a demographic nowadays, though I prefer that it be less violently blatant. It just rubs me the wrong way.
And as Cous said, the Twihards this appeals to is the 2010 version of Poochie.
Oh hell yeah, it's pandering to the Nth degree
But it's really good pandering. Like, whoever designed this game should probably get some kind of Evil Marketing Executive Award for this
Also the whole thing sort of reminds me of what a Hollywood-produced Devil May Cry movie would be. And somehow that's... kind of neat? Or not? I don't know
And no, this doesn't appeal to "Twihards." For fuck's sake, at least point your nerdrage in the right direction. Not everything gothy or emo is Twilight. Twilight is it's own personal brand of female-specific awfulness. This is, again, more like The Crow or something like that
Dante was always silly looking. He was a bundle of silly fantasy anime cliches. The whole style was "badass"
with an emphasis on the quotation marks.
This Dante does not look like a silly, goofy, self-aware video fame character. This one looks like it was dreamed up by a marketing executive who thought a phrase like "street art" would give him some kind of legitimacy.
It's also pandering to a demographic that I find somewhat pathetic and irritating, ie gloomy teenage boys.
These decisions do not bode well for the rest of the game.
I think you're transposing your personal issues onto this game.
Thats fine... thats your freedom to do that. But people like me... who just see a video game, with some teenager killing monsters... don't understand that.
It's not personal issues, this thing has the stamp of the marketing department all over it. Trust me, this is far, FAR from the first thing to have this feel. This is the epitome of what the Simpsons parodied with Poochie 13 years ago.
They've Poochified Dante.
No, that's wrong
See, because Poochie was over the top cool with his skateboard and sunglasses and baggy pants and basketball and he rode off in a convertible with some bitches
If anything, Dante from DMC3 was Poochified
This Dante is designed not to appeal to kids who look cool things, but to troubled older kids who get picked on at school because they're different from all the other sheeple, man. He's like one step removed from The Crow, basically
And so far, it looks like it's doing a really excellent job at appealing to that demographic
I can recognize quality pandering when I see it
But at least you recognize that it's pandering.
I realize that just about everything is at least slightly molded to appeal to a demographic nowadays, though I prefer that it be less violently blatant. It just rubs me the wrong way.
And as Cous said, the Twihards this appeals to is the 2010 version of Poochie.
Oh hell yeah, it's pandering to the Nth degree
But it's really good pandering. Like, whoever designed this game should probably get some kind of Evil Marketing Executive Award for this
Also the whole thing sort of reminds me of what a Hollywood-produced Devil May Cry movie would be. And somehow that's... kind of neat? Or not? I don't know
And no, this doesn't appeal to "Twihards." For fuck's sake, at least point your nerdrage in the right direction. Not everything gothy or emo is Twilight. Twilight is it's own personal brand of female-specific awfulness. This is, again, more like The Crow or something like that
This is for teenage dudes, is what I'm saying
Yup. this is for dudes that go to warped tour. this is for dudes in v-necks listening to every time I die.
For real dudes DMC4 was kind of stagnant compared to DMC3. Bring on the change.
Agreed.
DMC4 felt like they were just phoning it in and not even trying. Nero was a carbon copy of Dante just with more angst and youthful confusion, then add in the content recycling/backtracking and you have a really mediocre game.
It was fun, don't get me wrong... but wasn't as great as DMC1 and 3.
The changes should focus on making DMC better while keeping the basic atmosphere, general attitude, and gameplay style. You don't necessarily need to keep it the same to do that. This just looks to have the gameplay style at most. It would be like trying to make Mario grimdark figure who hates jumping.
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MongerI got the ham stink.Dallas, TXRegistered Userregular
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You know, if this was called anything else - absolutely anything else - I'd be pretty excited to see what they were doing.
reVerseAttack and Dethrone GodRegistered Userregular
edited September 2010
Someone mentioned Hilary Swank in Boys Don't Cry earlier in the thread and, y'know, that'd be interesting, having a transgendered protagonist. No big publisher would go anywhere near it because of omgays, but still.
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I know having a goose-off is fun and all, but it'd be nice if we could stay somewhat civil.
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Which was co-opted and taken over by cynical corporate interests loooooooooong ago. Rebelling by buying a product, woo hoo.
Also torture is the definition of gritty grimdark.
I think you're transposing your personal issues onto this game.
Thats fine... thats your freedom to do that. But people like me... who just see a video game, with some teenager killing monsters... don't understand that.
Not much has changed.
Sounds like they want to bring some new blood into an older franchise. More power to them. I remember when I was a kid, y'know.
I don't think DMC became self-aware until 3
The rest seemed like typical super-serious anime bullshit
As an example
I present this evidence
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It's not personal issues, this thing has the stamp of the marketing department all over it. Trust me, this is far, FAR from the first thing to have this feel. This is the epitome of what the Simpsons parodied with Poochie 13 years ago.
They've Poochified Dante.
lol ohh man... I don't think anyone couldn't help but laugh at how fucking corny that was the first time seeing it.
Lots of slo mo stabbing demons with broken bottles.
...I have to stop now before I make myself sad that the game I'm imagining is not being made.
No, that's wrong
See, because Poochie was over the top cool with his skateboard and sunglasses and baggy pants and basketball and he rode off in a convertible with some bitches
If anything, Dante from DMC3 was Poochified
This Dante is designed not to appeal to kids who look cool things, but to troubled older kids who get picked on at school because they're different from all the other sheeple, man. He's like one step removed from The Crow, basically
And so far, it looks like it's doing a really excellent job at appealing to that demographic
I can recognize quality pandering when I see it
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OMG DANTE GOES SCREAMO
Dante doesn't smoke. He eats a sundae then he jumps on a demon's head insults it's mother and shoots it.
So this design and the developer being responsible for "lady god of war but not even half as good" has all but ensured I'll never play this game.
Dude I don't know, this game just got announced, they're still well into development
This could still happen
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They should have had Platinum Games do this.
So it's really good marketing, then! Dollar signs, baby, dollar signs
And I think they should have Platinum Games do every game, but that's beside the point
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hahahaha did you make that?
Thanks for posting it. This is what I'm talking about. People making a big deal out of aesthetic changes... when they really don't matter that much... at least to me.
I'm excited by what I saw in the trailer because it looked like fun. People are just too eager to hate something and associate it with something else they dislike and cling to the things they are used to. I just care about if the game is fun and entertaining.
I really don't think they left capcom to make games for capcom haha. It would be hilarious though. Also Bayonetta is awesome.
But at least you recognize that it's pandering.
I realize that just about everything is at least slightly molded to appeal to a demographic nowadays, though I prefer that it be less violently blatant. It just rubs me the wrong way.
And as Cous said, the Twihards this appeals to is the 2010 version of Poochie.
Mwa ha ha.
I hope this game transforms into that
Seriously though, first Samus, now Dante...WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO!?
*Fixed for accuracy...FUCKING NINJAS
Wrong studio. That's Team Ninja. This is Ninja Theory.
I want a really good and really hard action game with excellent controls and a protagonist who surfs on missiles and trash talks every boss in the game.
I hope the game is self aware, the series works best when it both cherishes and lampoons ridiculous action movies and anime. Hopefully Dante is impaled within the first fifteen minutes (if he isn't, it isn't a real DMC game).
Not sure how to feel about Ninja Theory. The "street culture" quote is dumb as shit though. Doesn't mean the game will be bad, good developers say stupid things all the time.
Oh hell yeah, it's pandering to the Nth degree
But it's really good pandering. Like, whoever designed this game should probably get some kind of Evil Marketing Executive Award for this
Also the whole thing sort of reminds me of what a Hollywood-produced Devil May Cry movie would be. And somehow that's... kind of neat? Or not? I don't know
And no, this doesn't appeal to "Twihards." For fuck's sake, at least point your nerdrage in the right direction. Not everything gothy or emo is Twilight. Twilight is it's own personal brand of female-specific awfulness. This is, again, more like The Crow or something like that
This is for teenage dudes, is what I'm saying
PSN ID : DetectiveOlivaw | TWITTER | STEAM ID | NEVER FORGET
pretty much this
My DMC4 experience was a never ending groan
Yup. this is for dudes that go to warped tour. this is for dudes in v-necks listening to every time I die.
Agreed.
DMC4 felt like they were just phoning it in and not even trying. Nero was a carbon copy of Dante just with more angst and youthful confusion, then add in the content recycling/backtracking and you have a really mediocre game.
It was fun, don't get me wrong... but wasn't as great as DMC1 and 3.
Heh, and earlier I mistook them for the people who did Ninety Nine Nights. Poor guys
"Real big-time studio, that Ninja Theory. Lots of name recognition! I loved their Ninja Gaiden games!"
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I am fucking heartbroken.
All right, people. It is not a gerbil. It is not a hamster. It is not a guinea pig. It is a death rabbit. Death. Rabbit. Say it with me, now.
Really? Because I got that from the shirtless white haired design before.
I believe he is referring to a certain pa comic.
I fucking hate that comic. I could never bring up DMC around a certain friend without hearing OH YOU MEAN THE GAY VAMPIRE GAME ABOUT GAY VAMPIRES?
Oh. I'm not bashing the game itself.
Gameplay looks pretty DMCish and it looks like they're trying to add a decent plot with all the crazy parties.
That being said, I still hate the MC design.
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I'm in a mood.
All right, people. It is not a gerbil. It is not a hamster. It is not a guinea pig. It is a death rabbit. Death. Rabbit. Say it with me, now.