I like setting up her delayed arrows, then firing off the immediate arrows, then while they dodge both volleys consecutively, I huck a giant axe at them, or do Apocalypse.
1: Throw down a few mines around yourself.
2: Fire a homing flare attack.
3: Fire a stationary flare attack.
4: Jump into the stationary flare.
5: Using the stationary flare as a shield, start charging Starfall.
6. Cackle along with the Emperor as the AI has no clue how to stop you and gets nuked by an unavoidable meteor
It falls flat against a human opponent, and eventually the AI learns how to deal with it on the highest difficulties, but man it was good while it lasted.
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I'm still trying to figure out what's more Star Wars in XII than in other FF's. I can't.
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There was a flashback to before Seph went crazyflakes, that was about it.
I hope this Dissidia stuff really takes off, because I would love a MvC-sized Square fighter. All part of a larger plan to include characters from Chrono Trigger, revitalize interest in the franchise, and finally get a another goddamn sequel made.
Parasite Eve might be worth checking out too. Always been a decent series.
Looking at that reminds me: I really like Cloud's clothes in Advent Children compared to his original. Once I switched him to those, I never switched back. Same with Squall in his SEED uniform. He looked classy as fuck as I beat people down.
I'm still trying to figure out what's more Star Wars in XII than in other FF's. I can't.
This is all subjective, but to me, the similarities were striking.
You've got the Princess and a band of rebels fighting an Evil Empire who killed her family (Ashe and the resistance/Princess Leia and the Rebel Alliance); the rogue with a bounty on his head with his silent 200-year-old alien partner and their star (air) ship (Balthier, Fran and the Strahl/Han Solo, Chewbacca and the Millenium Falcon); the orphan boy dreaming of a life of adventure (Vaan/Luke); the general long-thought dead coming back to help the Princess and fight the Empire (Basch/Obi-Wan Kenobi); bad-ass Empire people wearing cool suits of armour (the Judges/Darth Vader).
What really sold me, though, is when Balthier, Fran, Vaan and Basch are taking off aboard the Strahl for the first time (going after Penelo, I think). The shot of them sitting in the cockpit when leaving Dalmasca is almost exactly the same as the shot of Han, Chewbacca, Luke and Obi-Wan in the cockpit of the Millenium Falcon when leaving Mos Eisley.
Of course, this is all subjective, but I think this is what people allude to when they compare it to Star Wars.
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I'm still trying to figure out what's more Star Wars in XII than in other FF's. I can't.
This is all subjective, but to me, the similarities were striking.
You've got the Princess and a band of rebels fighting an Evil Empire who killed her family (Asch and the resistance/Princess Leia and the Rebel Alliance); the rogue with a bounty on his head with his silent 200-year-old alien partner and their star (air) ship (Balthier, Fran and the Strahl/Han Solo, Chewbacca and the Millenium Falcon); the orphan boy dreaming of a life of adventure (Vaan/Luke); the general long-thought dead coming back to help the Princess and fight the Empire (Basch/Obi-Wan Kenobi); bad-ass Empire people wearing cool suits of armour (the Judges/Darth Vader).
What really sold me, though, is when Balthier, Fran, Vaan and Basch are taking off aboard the Strahl for the first time (going after Penelo, I think). The shot of them sitting in the cockpit when leaving Dalmasca is almost exactly the same as the shot of Han, Chewbacca, Luke and Obi-Wan in the cockpit of the Millenium Falcon when leaving Mos Eisley.
Of course, this is all subjective, but I think this is what people allude to when they compare it to Star Wars.
So it's basically the same as Final Fantasy II and VI in a lot of ways? Because yeah, Terra and Edgar just to name two that fit bills in there.
Star Wars refrences in Final Fantasy NO WAY, DUDE
I gotta tell that my buddies Biggs and Wedge right now dude.
Edit: It's not like even X had the your father is the enemy bit.
I believe the claim is that they focus-tested it and girls didn't like Basch as the main character, so they made Vaan.
Is this actually true though? If anything it seems more of a move to make a character to appeal to a youth audience in general, not only girls. Vaan was basically blonde Aladdin. He wasn't particularly pretty, his face is all pudgy.
Are there jrpg's even made with 25 and up adults as the primary character? Is it something that even happens?
No, because that would imply experience, something that they don't want you to start with in most cases. Seems you always start as someone not very skilled but who has a lot of potential. A la Luke Skywalker. The case could be made that every RPG ever has taken a page from Star Wars, really.
I believe the claim is that they focus-tested it and girls didn't like Basch as the main character, so they made Vaan.
Is this actually true though? If anything it seems more of a move to make a character to appeal to a youth audience in general, not only girls. Vaan was basically blonde Aladdin. He wasn't particularly pretty, his face is all pudgy.
Are there jrpg's even made with 25 and up adults as the primary character? Is it something that even happens?
Lost Odyssey, I suppose.
not only is the main dude married, he's also a grandfather.
Tifa's wiki page is all kinds of creepy. Almost half of it talks about her outfit. And since when did the characters have listed measurements? I call BS.
On the other hand, Nomura's statement on how she has multiple layers reinforces my claim that she's one of the better written RPG female characters.
I'll also go on record saying her relationship with Cloud is one of the best written romances ever in a videogame.
I kind of agree. I think she's a good character, my favorite female lead in the series. I'm not a big fan of the actual romantic subplot, though. I feel it kind of jerked both Tifa and the player around a little too much, and didn't have a satisfying resolution or even really a resolution at all. Even later on in Advent Children, they just kind of skirt and avoid the issue. Like they're kind of together it seems like but it's all vague and weird. It kind of bugs me because I found Tifa fairly human and relatable and I would like some actual closure for her arc that I feel wasn't properly wrapped up.
I believe the claim is that they focus-tested it and girls didn't like Basch as the main character, so they made Vaan.
Is this actually true though? If anything it seems more of a move to make a character to appeal to a youth audience in general, not only girls. Vaan was basically blonde Aladdin. He wasn't particularly pretty, his face is all pudgy.
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Are there jrpg's even made with 25 and up adults as the primary character? Is it something that even happens?
I kind of agree. I think she's a good character, my favorite female lead in the series. I'm not a big fan of the actual romantic subplot, though. I feel it kind of jerked both Tifa and the player around a little too much, and didn't have a satisfying resolution or even really a resolution at all. Even later on in Advent Children, they just kind of skirt and avoid the issue. Like they're kind of together it seems like but it's all vague and weird. It kind of bugs me because I found Tifa fairly human and relatable and I would like some actual closure for her arc that I feel wasn't properly wrapped up.
I've got a couple of theories about this.
1. Since FFVII is now a series with an alleged "ending" that has yet to surface, they want to keep the romance subplot under the rug until the very end.
2. To add to theory 1, they probably want to also play it safe so as not to piss off the Cloud/Aerith fans. This could be a strong case considering Crisis Core's release, which partly was to show people that Zack and Aerith are a legitimate couple on their own (thus having people accept the Cloud/Tifa coupling whereas they were against it before).
I'm the type who wants to see a full-on romantic embrace between the two (it effectively worked in FFX as well as Xenogears. Also fun fact, the guy who wrote Xenogears' script was called in to write in Cloud and Tifa's dialog, as she was a late addition), but I'm also enjoying the slow approach they've taken in the Compilation. The two have issues, mostly from Cloud's end (interviews say the reason he's afraid to get close is because he thinks he'll be unable to protect her, going back to Aerith), but that also adds a touch of realism to their relationship. It feels genuine, and it also adds to one of the first game's defining quotes ("words aren't the only way to tell someone how you feel").
I've plugged it before, but if you haven't read the Case of Tifa short story, you seriously need to do so. It's the most romantic that either character has been in the entire series, and it's quite endearing.
I just hope they don't pull a Wakka/Lulu and just quietly announce how they have a kid or something in the sequel, but that just brings up a lingering fear I have regarding a certain character from Advent Children stealing Cloud's spotlight....
The more I think about the whole FF7 love triangle, the more I kind of start to hate Aerith.
Basically she feels a bit attracted to Cloud because he reminds her of her old squeeze. She's got a flirty personality so she flirts with him pretty hard for a while. Then she gets to know Tifa, and it's basically obvious to everyone that she's crazy in love with the guy. So faced with a guy who reminds her of someone else but isn't actually that person, and a new good friend who is in love with him but has a really hard time expressing herself, what does she do? She just keeps flirting with him. Blatantly. Right in front of Tifa.
Maybe I'm interpreting things wrong here, but I don't really get the impression that Aerith actually loved Cloud. Yet she still actively fucks with Tifa's relationship with him while acting like she's her pal at the same time.
I just hope they don't pull a Wakka/Lulu and just quietly announce how they have a kid or something in the sequel, but that just brings up a lingering fear I have regarding a certain character from Advent Children stealing Cloud's spotlight....
Cue "Final Fantasy VII: End of Compilation", starring Denzel, Marlene, and stealth sections involving Cait Sith.
With Genesis as the bad guy.
And Aerith being revived so she can do a Jesus again.
Everyone dies when a giant meteor made out of belts and zippers crashes into the planet.
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The more I think about the whole FF7 love triangle, the more I kind of start to hate Aerith.
Basically she feels a bit attracted to Cloud because he reminds her of her old squeeze. She's got a flirty personality so she flirts with him pretty hard for a while. Then she gets to know Tifa, and it's basically obvious to everyone that she's crazy in love with the guy. So faced with a guy who reminds her of someone else but isn't actually that person, and a new good friend who is in love with him but has a really hard time expressing herself, what does she do? She just keeps flirting with him. Blatantly. Right in front of Tifa.
Maybe I'm interpreting things wrong here, but I don't really get the impression that Aerith actually loved Cloud. Yet she still actively fucks with Tifa's relationship with him while acting like she's her pal at the same time.
She comes off as kind of a bitch to me.
I'd like to think that she partly tried to give Tifa a push with the flirting so as to get her to act on her feelings. The most interesting personality trait I found with Aerith is her blunt way of trying to help out her friends.
Two notable examples:
1. The way she tries to get Barret to cheer up in the Gold Saucer after getting chewed out (and punched out) by the people from his hometown.
2. (Crisis Core Spoiler)
how she stubbornly refused to let Zack's friend fix the flower cart Zack made for her, demanding that they wait for Zack to come back
I thought she was a grade A bitch with the 2nd example until it dawned on me about a couple of minutes later.
Oh, and according to Aerith's short story (which isn't quite as well written as Tifa's)
Aerith was the one who brought Tifa into Cloud's subconscious when they both fell in the Lifestream.
She also outwardly states that Tifa is the one who belongs in Cloud's heart, stating that she's jealous but also happy for them.
Ugh, not liking that Lifestream retcon under your spoiler. I don't want Aerith to be the reason for that.
I wouldn't consider aggressively flirting with a dude in front of the girl who loves him to be all that helpful.
Aerith just comes across as a Mary Sue to me. She's like this perfect little flower that everyone adores and who is the answer to everyone's problems and then she's basically Jesus and...UGH. The fact that no one ever calls her out on the way she deliberately got in Tifa's way just adds fuel to the fire.
Considering it having been a year since Japanese release, should I stop hoping that the Final Fantasy Legend 2 remake will be released in the US?
I'm still pissed we never got Front Mission 5.
Word has been super positive about that game, and if Square had any sense (they don't), they would release it as a PSN game the same week as Evolved (the latter's quality being questionable at this point).
I just hope they don't pull a Wakka/Lulu and just quietly announce how they have a kid or something in the sequel, but that just brings up a lingering fear I have regarding a certain character from Advent Children stealing Cloud's spotlight....
Cue "Final Fantasy VII: End of Compilation", starring Denzel, Marlene, and stealth sections involving Cait Sith.
With Genesis as the bad guy.
And Aerith being revived so she can do a Jesus again.
Everyone dies when a giant meteor made out of belts and zippers crashes into the planet.
Pretty much, although I still insist that the Genesis you saw in Dirge of Cerberus is actually
Weiss, who possessed his corpse.
Of course, whether this eases your fears or not depends on whether you liked Weiss better than Genesis.
Point is, I doubt there will be any poetry spouting from him.
I really hate timeskips that put the main character in the sidelines, but Square has mentioned before that they always want Cloud to be the lead character for FFVII, so that's assuring.
They also said that Sephiroth will always be the main villain, so expect him to show up at least one more time.
Looks like Square is taking that January conference seriously.
Tetsuya Nomura Details Fabula Nova Crystallis Conference
One of the more mysterious announcements from the Tokyo Game Show came at the end of the the special Tetsuya Nomura trailer reel. A note following the brief footage of Final Fantasy Versus and Agito XIII promised some sort of "Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy XIII Conference" to be held on January 11.
In this week's Famitsu, Tetsuya Nomura has provided some first details on what to expect from the conference:
* Square Enix will release some actual screens of Versus XIII and Agito XIII
* They will announce a number of titles, including games outside of the Fabula Nova Crystallis series
* They will announce new Dissidia 012 Final Fantasy characters
* There will be a number of other surprises
* The event will most likely allow for some members of the general public to join in.
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Heck, in Xenosaga, there's only one human being in the entire party.
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It was the glasses.
Has there been any news about how assists are going to work in Dissida 2? I'm having a hard time picturing how that would work at all.
At the end of it you wake up with a bad headache and a moogle pillow nestled in your arms.
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Didn't one happen in, uh,
Final Fantasy VII?
Oh, and it appears as though for Assists, you press a button; character swoops in and performs one of his attacks. Then swoops out.
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I like setting up her delayed arrows, then firing off the immediate arrows, then while they dodge both volleys consecutively, I huck a giant axe at them, or do Apocalypse.
1: Throw down a few mines around yourself.
2: Fire a homing flare attack.
3: Fire a stationary flare attack.
4: Jump into the stationary flare.
5: Using the stationary flare as a shield, start charging Starfall.
6. Cackle along with the Emperor as the AI has no clue how to stop you and gets nuked by an unavoidable meteor
It falls flat against a human opponent, and eventually the AI learns how to deal with it on the highest difficulties, but man it was good while it lasted.
Nope.
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I'm still trying to figure out what's more Star Wars in XII than in other FF's. I can't.
I hope this Dissidia stuff really takes off, because I would love a MvC-sized Square fighter. All part of a larger plan to include characters from Chrono Trigger, revitalize interest in the franchise, and finally get a another goddamn sequel made.
Parasite Eve might be worth checking out too. Always been a decent series.
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What about that one flashback?
When Sephiroth was a guest star party member?
That was more like a teamup of Sephiroth and a mentally challenged kid with a foam bat.
This is all subjective, but to me, the similarities were striking.
You've got the Princess and a band of rebels fighting an Evil Empire who killed her family (Ashe and the resistance/Princess Leia and the Rebel Alliance); the rogue with a bounty on his head with his silent 200-year-old alien partner and their star (air) ship (Balthier, Fran and the Strahl/Han Solo, Chewbacca and the Millenium Falcon); the orphan boy dreaming of a life of adventure (Vaan/Luke); the general long-thought dead coming back to help the Princess and fight the Empire (Basch/Obi-Wan Kenobi); bad-ass Empire people wearing cool suits of armour (the Judges/Darth Vader).
What really sold me, though, is when Balthier, Fran, Vaan and Basch are taking off aboard the Strahl for the first time (going after Penelo, I think). The shot of them sitting in the cockpit when leaving Dalmasca is almost exactly the same as the shot of Han, Chewbacca, Luke and Obi-Wan in the cockpit of the Millenium Falcon when leaving Mos Eisley.
Of course, this is all subjective, but I think this is what people allude to when they compare it to Star Wars.
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So it's basically the same as Final Fantasy II and VI in a lot of ways? Because yeah, Terra and Edgar just to name two that fit bills in there.
Star Wars refrences in Final Fantasy NO WAY, DUDE
I gotta tell that my buddies Biggs and Wedge right now dude.
Edit: It's not like even X had the your father is the enemy bit.
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Are there jrpg's even made with 25 and up adults as the primary character? Is it something that even happens?
Lost Odyssey, I suppose.
Tifa's wiki page is all kinds of creepy. Almost half of it talks about her outfit. And since when did the characters have listed measurements? I call BS.
On the other hand, Nomura's statement on how she has multiple layers reinforces my claim that she's one of the better written RPG female characters.
I'll also go on record saying her relationship with Cloud is one of the best written romances ever in a videogame.
Let's spend several posts arguing that.
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Vagrant Story
Atlus's new rpg has a main character in his 30s.
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I've got a couple of theories about this.
1. Since FFVII is now a series with an alleged "ending" that has yet to surface, they want to keep the romance subplot under the rug until the very end.
2. To add to theory 1, they probably want to also play it safe so as not to piss off the Cloud/Aerith fans. This could be a strong case considering Crisis Core's release, which partly was to show people that Zack and Aerith are a legitimate couple on their own (thus having people accept the Cloud/Tifa coupling whereas they were against it before).
I'm the type who wants to see a full-on romantic embrace between the two (it effectively worked in FFX as well as Xenogears. Also fun fact, the guy who wrote Xenogears' script was called in to write in Cloud and Tifa's dialog, as she was a late addition), but I'm also enjoying the slow approach they've taken in the Compilation. The two have issues, mostly from Cloud's end (interviews say the reason he's afraid to get close is because he thinks he'll be unable to protect her, going back to Aerith), but that also adds a touch of realism to their relationship. It feels genuine, and it also adds to one of the first game's defining quotes ("words aren't the only way to tell someone how you feel").
I've plugged it before, but if you haven't read the Case of Tifa short story, you seriously need to do so. It's the most romantic that either character has been in the entire series, and it's quite endearing.
I just hope they don't pull a Wakka/Lulu and just quietly announce how they have a kid or something in the sequel, but that just brings up a lingering fear I have regarding a certain character from Advent Children stealing Cloud's spotlight....
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Basically she feels a bit attracted to Cloud because he reminds her of her old squeeze. She's got a flirty personality so she flirts with him pretty hard for a while. Then she gets to know Tifa, and it's basically obvious to everyone that she's crazy in love with the guy. So faced with a guy who reminds her of someone else but isn't actually that person, and a new good friend who is in love with him but has a really hard time expressing herself, what does she do? She just keeps flirting with him. Blatantly. Right in front of Tifa.
Maybe I'm interpreting things wrong here, but I don't really get the impression that Aerith actually loved Cloud. Yet she still actively fucks with Tifa's relationship with him while acting like she's her pal at the same time.
She comes off as kind of a bitch to me.
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Cue "Final Fantasy VII: End of Compilation", starring Denzel, Marlene, and stealth sections involving Cait Sith.
I'd like to think that she partly tried to give Tifa a push with the flirting so as to get her to act on her feelings. The most interesting personality trait I found with Aerith is her blunt way of trying to help out her friends.
Two notable examples:
1. The way she tries to get Barret to cheer up in the Gold Saucer after getting chewed out (and punched out) by the people from his hometown.
2. (Crisis Core Spoiler)
I thought she was a grade A bitch with the 2nd example until it dawned on me about a couple of minutes later.
Oh, and according to Aerith's short story (which isn't quite as well written as Tifa's)
She also outwardly states that Tifa is the one who belongs in Cloud's heart, stating that she's jealous but also happy for them.
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I wouldn't consider aggressively flirting with a dude in front of the girl who loves him to be all that helpful.
Aerith just comes across as a Mary Sue to me. She's like this perfect little flower that everyone adores and who is the answer to everyone's problems and then she's basically Jesus and...UGH. The fact that no one ever calls her out on the way she deliberately got in Tifa's way just adds fuel to the fire.
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I'm still pissed we never got Front Mission 5.
Word has been super positive about that game, and if Square had any sense (they don't), they would release it as a PSN game the same week as Evolved (the latter's quality being questionable at this point).
Pretty much, although I still insist that the Genesis you saw in Dirge of Cerberus is actually
Of course, whether this eases your fears or not depends on whether you liked Weiss better than Genesis.
Point is, I doubt there will be any poetry spouting from him.
I really hate timeskips that put the main character in the sidelines, but Square has mentioned before that they always want Cloud to be the lead character for FFVII, so that's assuring.
They also said that Sephiroth will always be the main villain, so expect him to show up at least one more time.
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Time to start placing your bets.
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But if we're going to bring up realistic scenarios, Verus XIII goes multi-plat, in Japan too (From the start, not half a year later.)
Maybe another crack at portable CC games or a Tactics Advance 3 or some such.
Maybe FF V Remake.