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Eve Online Art Contest! : Design a Starship!
Fuzzy Modem
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Eve Online is holding a contest: http://news.deviantart.com/article/128272/
- to design a starship FOR THE GAME! The winner also gets an Ipad, a Drawing Tablet and a bunch of other loot.
Will you enter?
Concept Doodles: (My sketching ability is not great. I'll be working in Maya for the final draft.)
Bigger: http://crossovercomic.com/media/extras/Unrelated/eve_online_contest/my_eve_doodles2_rx.jpg
The size limit for the contest is 1000 meters. Does that look bigger than 1000 meters to you?
- to design a starship FOR THE GAME! The winner also gets an Ipad, a Drawing Tablet and a bunch of other loot.
Will you enter?
Concept Doodles: (My sketching ability is not great. I'll be working in Maya for the final draft.)
Bigger: http://crossovercomic.com/media/extras/Unrelated/eve_online_contest/my_eve_doodles2_rx.jpg
The size limit for the contest is 1000 meters. Does that look bigger than 1000 meters to you?
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Right now there's nothing to tell the front from the back of the ship, nor the top from the bottom. There's no indicator of a flight deck/bridge or engines.
I'll work to make them more apparent once I start in Maya. The side with the engines may need to be flared out a bit.
I also need to decide which faction this vessel is for before I start modeling, as it will determine which methods I use.
Right now I'm thinking "Gallente", perhaps modeled with Sub-Ds.
I would NOT recommend doing that, as it is specifically against the rules. It really pissed me off that illegitimate entries won the StarCraft 2 Propaganda contest.
Don't be a dick. Make something new. You obviously have the talent.
Granted, it'd be disqualified because it's in color and a six-view drawing is needed, but what's wrong with it?
The contest rules state that the entry must be created FOR the competition. It's stated, and re-phrased, several times.
There is nothing wrong with his picture, and in fact it looks like it would fit the style of the game, but he should make something new and original. He still has nearly a month.
Now if it wasn't art that was already used for some other professional project or rejected from another contest, how is someone going to divine what intentions you had when you made it? If its your own art that you have laying around and you decide to adapt it for a contest, there's nothing wrong with that.
Well, if you made it BEFORE the contest was announced, your intentions were, obviously, not to create it for the (as of yet non-existent) contest.
That being said, I am all for him re-working the design and submitting it. He would have to anyway to be in compliance with the contest's other specifications.
Why should that matter?
I think you should create some orthos and give it a shot
Just remember kids exposure doesn't pay the bills!
$900 prize money does though. I also wouldn't mind winning that iPad. I'd give it to my 10yr old daughter
Man, for trying to get people to compete, you sure are making it difficult. I agree with Metal. Unless you narc on him, who will know the difference? Better yet...who cares?
I care. I poured my heart and soul into that StarCraft 2 contest, and a plagiarized entry won. It's not THAT hard to follow the damn rules.
I haven't read the fine print, but I have the feeling that this is one of those "all artwork submitted becomes the property of CCP."
In other words, for the price of the first, second, and third place prizes, they have enough new ship ideas to last them through the next couple expansions. And based on what I've heard of the developers over there, I wouldn't put it past them.
I don't think they are doing this to get free ideas, they have some very competent artists of their own at CCP these days.
There is a very large difference between plagiarized and "worked on a little while ago". In fact, they seem like they are completely and utterly different. Like, I don't know why both are placed in the same argument.
Yeah, it was right about there that I gave up. I can't even pretend to defend an idea against that kind of logic.
Because they are both rules.
I have a DECADE's worth of space ship models I could submit for this contest, but I am making something from scratch, just like I did for the StarCraft 2 contest, and for past CG talk contests, because that's HOW you compete on a level playing field.
Think, not about Cake, but about they hypothetical guy who's been working on the same space ship model for three years. Does he not have an unfair advantage over those of us who follow the rules, and create our designs, from scratch, within a month?
It's about respect for your fellow competitors, as well as respect for a competition it's self.
Your SKILL (derived from experience) is what is being judged. Therefore, in an equitable competition (or any observational experiment for that matter) all other factors must be equalized.
More time to work > less time to work = Broken contest.
There might be a guy out there who's been working on the design for three years just to win one minor contest, but I wouldn't call that an unfair advantage. Overly competetive, maybe, or even hilariously pathetic. Really, for that amount of work, you could have just gotten a second part time job and bought all the prizes. It's a contest, its there to drum up hype for the game; it's just another form of advertising. This reminds me of that kid on A Christmas Story, who's absolutely rabid about his little orphan annie secret decoder ring and then finds out the "secret message" was just an advertisement.
Also, there will be other contests if you don't win this one.
You can make an incredibly well-polished, detailed-to-hell, thoroughly thought-through concept in a month's time.
There's also no guarantee that "more time" is going to equal "more likely to win" in this competition, either. Somebody may spend three months on a design that's crap, even though it's rendered and beautifully lit, etc. etc. "More time" does not even equal "better end result", as it depends on the skills of the person making the artwork. A better artist may produce a better product in less time than an amateur may take to produce something that isn't even half as good.
Oh cripes. I think the fail-proof plan, then, is to cover the ship in anime drawings.
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In regards to the OP and the drawings - they're pretty confusing...I'm not sure what I'm looking at, or what the perspective is doing. If you don't know 3D, it might be a good idea to make a quick mockup in real-life out of whatever objects you have lying around, and reference those, so you can better grasp the angles you're working with.
Seriously, why is it so hard to just read the rules and follow them, even if you think you can get away with breaking them? They aren't asking anything unreasonable.
"Entries must be made by Entrant exclusively for this contest"
"(ii) must be the exclusive original work of the entrant and made for the Contest"
http://st.deviantart.net/news/eve-online/rules/rules.html?6
http://news.deviantart.com/article/128272/
But this is to weed out any legality and rights issues. This is to protect the contest holders from entrants that have been or might have been considered for other projects. This isn't about people getting a head start and fairness so much as a way of covering the contest holders' butts. If they were so worried about everyone starting at the same time, I think they'd have used a starting pistol or at least a whistle or something.
No, that is covered here: "(i) may not have been made commercially available, won any other prize/award, been featured as a "Daily Deviation" nor been previously submitted to any other contest"
How, pray tell, do you use "a starting pistol or at least a whistle or something?" for an on-line contest? It seems like instead, you might, I don't know... create a rule?
It isn't after all, a "submit your Eve fan art that you've had laying around for five years" contest. Like ANY contest I've ever been involved in, they expect something new and original, and I think they are correct to.
Good luck on your entry.
Thank you 8-)
To act like anything you create is individual or disconnected from anything else you do is ludicrous. Everything we do, art related or not heavily influences our output. Because I put the time into working out an EvE spaceship design because I cared enough to do so when it didn't involve ipads or cash prizes I don't feel I should be restricted from using what is perhaps the best core concept I could produce given my limited capabilities and experience.
Of course, and I'm all for you submitting that design (or a variant thereof) I just think you should re-create it from scratch for the contest.
When I am finished with this design, I plan to do another if time permits (you can submit as many as you like) based on a crescent shaped starship I've been doodling since high-school and modeling since college. While the design it's self has been an ongoing part of my portfolio, I will re-envision it for the Eve universe, and model it again from scratch.
This is much the same as Joss Whedon's script for "Alien: Resurrection" which is really a recycled draft of "Firefly."
-is 1km long, but mine, while the same length, is much larger by volume.
One Kilometer? I want to make a coil that compressed is 1km, then... is stretches out to break the size rules. Also, Metal will be the captain of my coil ship.
Bigger: http://crossovercomic.com/media/extras/Unrelated/eve_online_contest/IMG_5658_rx.jpg
It seems to be a thing with spaceship design to look like it has evolved out necessity rather than being a stream lined plan.