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Should I keep watching Heroes?
Casually HardcoreOnce an Asshole. Trying to be better.Registered Userregular
So, I'm watching the first episode of Season 1 and I have to say I'm liking what I'm watching so far. But, I recall reading about how this show just kind of went down hill into a shitfest.
So, my question is, should I keep watching? Or am I just setting myself up for complete disappointment?
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admanbunionize your workplaceSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
edited September 2010
You're definitely setting yourself up to be disappointed.
physi_marcPositron TrackerIn a nutshellRegistered Userregular
edited September 2010
I'd recommend watching the first season. It's pretty good entertainment.
The other seasons all go downhill, but I'd argue it's still fun to watch to kill time.
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HedgethornAssociate Professor of Historical Hobby HorsesIn the Lions' DenRegistered Userregular
edited September 2010
There are some bright spots in season 1. If you're enjoying it so far, go ahead and finish the season. But for your sake, I urge you not to watch beyond the season 1 finale. The show, which was already a bit shaky in the first season, goes completely off the rails into unwatchable territory as soon as season 2 begins. And the writers basically reboot the show every three or four episodes after that, because they can't seem to remember what they wrote just two weeks previously.
My general rule for TV viewing is that if I stop liking a show for three episodes in a row, I stop watching it. I don't force myself to keep watching episodes if I'm not enjoying it. If you are really liking Heroes, you should keep watching it until it starts to suck. For most people, this is around the middle of season 2 or beginning of season 3. I'd say it's worth watching the first season if you've never seen it before, but don't feel obligated to continue after that.
My general rule for TV viewing is that if I stop liking a show for three episodes in a row, I stop watching it. I don't force myself to keep watching episodes if I'm not enjoying it. If you are really liking Heroes, you should keep watching it until it starts to suck. For most people, this is around the middle of season 2 or beginning of season 3. I'd say it's worth watching the first season if you've never seen it before, but don't feel obligated to continue after that.
I dunno, sometimes a series will have a bad bit. Stargate is a good example. Some of the episodes are fantastic, but they definitely have bits where it isn't going anywhere, and is kind of boring.
I don't know what you guys are talking about, they never made a second season of Heroes.
Never.
This. This times 1000.
Though, man, if they had continued that series into season 2, it might have been fantastic. Man, so much potential there for an awesome series, but I guess it was just a miniseries. Kind of like 24. One season. That's it. Nothing more.
My general rule for TV viewing is that if I stop liking a show for three episodes in a row, I stop watching it. I don't force myself to keep watching episodes if I'm not enjoying it. If you are really liking Heroes, you should keep watching it until it starts to suck. For most people, this is around the middle of season 2 or beginning of season 3. I'd say it's worth watching the first season if you've never seen it before, but don't feel obligated to continue after that.
I dunno, sometimes a series will have a bad bit. Stargate is a good example. Some of the episodes are fantastic, but they definitely have bits where it isn't going anywhere, and is kind of boring.
I can't think of 3 back to back episodes of Stargate SG-1 or Atlantis that I didn't like. There were a few two-parters that were meh, but the next episode usually redeemed the previous ones. At least until the final season of SG-1.
I can't think of 3 back to back episodes of Stargate SG-1 or Atlantis that I didn't like. There were a few two-parters that were meh, but the next episode usually redeemed the previous ones. At least until the final season of SG-1.
First season, there's a string of three that kind of suck. It starts with the Nox, then you have this strange crystal planet, and then there's one more after that that I don't recall off hand. But then Daniel goes to the alternate dimension and all is well again.
Then there's all of season 9 and 10. The ori just bothered me. They were an annoying enemy, they weren't as awesome and powerful as they should have been. The episodes with Ba'al were awesome, and he really was an excellent antagonist. But he was awesome long before season 9. Even Anubis was fun, and Apophis was at least fun as an enemy because he was an annoyance, never as powerful as he should have been, and you got to destroy the crap out of him. THREE times, each more exciting than the last.
But then Cylar, to keep this on topic, in Heroes. He's never as awesome as he should be, just kind of a blatant annoyance that wont go away. I mean, if Cylar got awesome, and stopped moping about himself, he and future Peter could have some epic duals. But, alas, they did not continue the series, so we'll never see those two really go at it.
Last season was a nice apology for the others, but not nice enough to suggest that anyone should watch past season 1 and then read the wiki to see how that storyline ended.
The worst part about Heroes was that you could tell they had some decent ideas, but absolutely zero follow through on them. So they would have a character start some awesome arc or change, and then two episodes later it would all be completely undone. And this happened ALL the time. Every episode was a complete reset of any character development that may have accidentally occured in the last episode. So not only was it not good, it was absolutely infuriating.
But yeah, first season was pretty good. Second season had some awesome characters that immediatly fell victim to what I describe above, and became terrible almost immediatly out of the gate.
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Yeah, I really enjoyed first season of heroes, and then I made the mistake of watching season 2. I have at least 5 wtf moments right in a row. I really hate it when series writers forget their own plots, or canon, or anything that even remotely resembles a story. Unfortunately, being young and naive at the time, I trudged through season 2 in the hopes that it would get better for season 3.
I made it 2 episodes in before I decided that running around in WoW was a much better waste of my time.
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If you care about closure, then absolutely not, since the series ended on a cliffhanger. If you don't care, then maybe you can keep watching it to see how bad it gets? That's the only reason I continued. It gets laughably absurd later on.
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edited September 2010
The deeper I get into season one, the more absurd it's getting. The whole 'Evolution chooses members of a species to be special' narrative is laughably wrong. Well I gonna keep watching it until it gets unbearable to watch.
I mean, hell, I watched half a season of 'Secret life of an American Teenager'. It can't get worst then that.
Season 1 is about as good as it gets. I eventually went through all 4 seasons on Netflix just to see how it all pans out and man, it was not worth it. I started to watch it simply as a Sylar or Hiro miniseries, since they became about the only entertaining bit throughout. Hiro's arc is great though.
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My friend said it best about season 3 of Heroes: "I went to the bathroom for about two minutes and when I came back I was already totally lost."
I stopped watching halfway through season 2, though to be honest that's just because I missed a few episodes. I have season 1 on DVD though and it's incredible. It sort of wraps things up pretty well in the end if you want to pretend that was the entire run of the show.
As someone who watched the rest really hoping it would get better I'd recommend stopping there. The next several seasons will have a few bright moments with hours upon hours of absolute dreck.
Season 1 is about as good as it gets. I eventually went through all 4 seasons on Netflix just to see how it all pans out and man, it was not worth it. I started to watch it simply as a Sylar or Hiro miniseries, since they became about the only entertaining bit throughout. Hiro's arc is great though.
Sylar should never have evolved past the role of big bad. The
mommy and daddy issues shit was terrible. Especially the search for his father. Just awful.
Personally, I really enjoyed season 1 and was gripped by it until the very end. However, I watched the whole season on Netflix instant streaming and not one episode per week. That may have affected my enjoyment of it. It does go downhill rather badly after that. Each act has its moments, but none are as consistently entertaining as the first. As mentioned, the plot gets really messy and can be difficult to sort out. I think the only way to really enjoy is just watch all of the seasons back to back and not give the plot time to set in between seasons. Just power through it until the end and try to enjoy the ride. I'd only recommend following it past season 1 if you're really, really curious to see what happens to everyone after that season.
I actually stayed with the show until almost the end of Season 2. I figured, sophomore slump, it'll get better, plus Kristen Bell was hot as Electro-Bitch. Then I missed two episodes in a row, realized I had no interest in finding out what happened, Ms. Evil-Tears made me want to burn things, and there are other ways to see Kristen Bell hotness. And that was the end of that.
I guess I'll parrot everyone else...finish the first season, enjoy it for what it is, and walk away. And then start watching The Wire, or Breaking Bad, or something else that's actually good.
It is amazing to see such a consensus on this forum. But I'll have to agree, Season 1 is worth watching everything after is awful. Even S1 isn't that great but most of the episodes are at least decent and towards the end there are some fantastic episodes, and one massive disappointment.
The deeper I get into season one, the more absurd it's getting. The whole 'Evolution chooses remembers of a species to be special' narrative is laughably wrong. Well I gonna keep wathing it until it gets unbearably to watch.
I mean, hell, I watched half a season of 'Secret life of an American Teenager'. It can't get worst then that.
Don't worry, they retcon the cause of the abilities about 5,000 times.
Basically, picture a woman sitting in bed, with her arms crossed, and a look of disappointment and frustration on her face.
In bed next to her, there's a guy stammering about how "it's been a while" and "this has never happened" but at the same time "it happens to everyone!"
That about sums up the audience/show relationship at the end of the first season.
this thread should be locked because everyone is correct and there is nothing new to add (other than that writer's strike had a small bit to do with the screwup).
at least we got more of zachary quinto in something and maybe it lead to him being spock...i don't know.
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The other seasons all go downhill, but I'd argue it's still fun to watch to kill time.
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Never.
Seriously though, finish the first season and jump ship. You'll remember it as a fun little show that way.
I dunno, sometimes a series will have a bad bit. Stargate is a good example. Some of the episodes are fantastic, but they definitely have bits where it isn't going anywhere, and is kind of boring.
This. This times 1000.
Though, man, if they had continued that series into season 2, it might have been fantastic. Man, so much potential there for an awesome series, but I guess it was just a miniseries. Kind of like 24. One season. That's it. Nothing more.
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First season, there's a string of three that kind of suck. It starts with the Nox, then you have this strange crystal planet, and then there's one more after that that I don't recall off hand. But then Daniel goes to the alternate dimension and all is well again.
Then there's all of season 9 and 10. The ori just bothered me. They were an annoying enemy, they weren't as awesome and powerful as they should have been. The episodes with Ba'al were awesome, and he really was an excellent antagonist. But he was awesome long before season 9. Even Anubis was fun, and Apophis was at least fun as an enemy because he was an annoyance, never as powerful as he should have been, and you got to destroy the crap out of him. THREE times, each more exciting than the last.
But then Cylar, to keep this on topic, in Heroes. He's never as awesome as he should be, just kind of a blatant annoyance that wont go away. I mean, if Cylar got awesome, and stopped moping about himself, he and future Peter could have some epic duals. But, alas, they did not continue the series, so we'll never see those two really go at it.
-Current W.I.P.
Then there were other seasons.
Last season was a nice apology for the others, but not nice enough to suggest that anyone should watch past season 1 and then read the wiki to see how that storyline ended.
The first season was at times good and at other times great. Then the second season came along and....
I wish it could have been a quick death, but no.
But yeah, first season was pretty good. Second season had some awesome characters that immediatly fell victim to what I describe above, and became terrible almost immediatly out of the gate.
I made it 2 episodes in before I decided that running around in WoW was a much better waste of my time.
season 2 has an excellent hiro storyline
but yeah
This is excellent advice. I know you'll probably watch it anyway, but you will regret it.
I mean, hell, I watched half a season of 'Secret life of an American Teenager'. It can't get worst then that.
I stopped watching halfway through season 2, though to be honest that's just because I missed a few episodes. I have season 1 on DVD though and it's incredible. It sort of wraps things up pretty well in the end if you want to pretend that was the entire run of the show.
As someone who watched the rest really hoping it would get better I'd recommend stopping there. The next several seasons will have a few bright moments with hours upon hours of absolute dreck.
Sylar should never have evolved past the role of big bad. The
Personally, I really enjoyed season 1 and was gripped by it until the very end. However, I watched the whole season on Netflix instant streaming and not one episode per week. That may have affected my enjoyment of it. It does go downhill rather badly after that. Each act has its moments, but none are as consistently entertaining as the first. As mentioned, the plot gets really messy and can be difficult to sort out. I think the only way to really enjoy is just watch all of the seasons back to back and not give the plot time to set in between seasons. Just power through it until the end and try to enjoy the ride. I'd only recommend following it past season 1 if you're really, really curious to see what happens to everyone after that season.
I guess I'll parrot everyone else...finish the first season, enjoy it for what it is, and walk away. And then start watching The Wire, or Breaking Bad, or something else that's actually good.
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Don't worry, they retcon the cause of the abilities about 5,000 times.
+1 for Breaking Bad,
It's set up so perfectly, and then oh hey, it's over.
In bed next to her, there's a guy stammering about how "it's been a while" and "this has never happened" but at the same time "it happens to everyone!"
That about sums up the audience/show relationship at the end of the first season.
at least we got more of zachary quinto in something and maybe it lead to him being spock...i don't know.
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Though, honestly, I wished they renamed this show
'The adventure of Hiro: Life of a time rifting high roller'
and screw the whole 'Doomsday' storyline.