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Problems in the Bedroom

AlternateAcctAlternateAcct Registered User regular
edited September 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
So recently I've been having problems maintaining an erection while having sex with my GF (i wouldnt lose it if I was actually... inside her, but it was always a race to get on the condom, lets say). Well, this seemed to go away when I stopped watching or masturbating to porn at all. I mentioned it to my Doctor and he said the reasons for erection trouble are usually fatigue or stress. I guess what I'm asking is could my watching porn really be causing me to lose erections easier? The odd thing is I don't really lose them quickly when I was masturbating. I think it might have something to do with it happening a few times, than I worry about it happening, and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Although like I said, it becomes less of a problem (significantly less?) if I haven't looked at porn for 5+ days.

Also, another question: My GF can't seem to orgasm, or rather, she has me stop if I'm fingering her or going down on her because she gets overwhelmed she says. We talked about possibly going past this to see if it would lead to an orgasm, because we were both virgins before we met each other so neither of us have too much experience with this. She says that it feels like she might orgasm when we're actually having intercourse, which from everything I've read, sounds odd, as most women can get off with just clitoral stimulation? (Or am I wrong on this fact?)

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Some women can only do one or the other. Some need both at the same time. Some can do either.

    I'd be wary of labeling anything involving your girlfriend and her particular needs as "odd." It's an unfortunate choice of words. In any case, try out different stuff. It'll probably help if she practices a little on her own

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    One thing to note is that an overwhelming feeling is sometimes described as the pre-orgasm peak, so that may just be something you should power through.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So recently I've been having problems maintaining an erection while having sex with my GF (i wouldnt lose it if I was actually... inside her, but it was always a race to get on the condom, lets say). Well, this seemed to go away when I stopped watching or masturbating to porn at all. I mentioned it to my Doctor and he said the reasons for erection trouble are usually fatigue or stress. I guess what I'm asking is could my watching porn really be causing me to lose erections easier? The odd thing is I don't really lose them quickly when I was masturbating. I think it might have something to do with it happening a few times, than I worry about it happening, and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Although like I said, it becomes less of a problem (significantly less?) if I haven't looked at porn for 5+ days.

    If your body associates porn with erections and sexual stimulation more than it does with your girlfriend and condoms, then yes, porn is essentially causing this. It sounds like you've already solved the problem, and since this girlfriend is the first you've had sex with you are probably still nervous around her. Masturbating is a pretty private activity for most people which also means you're under no pressure to perform -- you do it, it feels good, that's that. Sex is typically different -- you do it with another person, which is obviously more complex.

    I'm not sure why it's taking you so long to put a condom on, though -- those things go on pretty fast. Unless you're fumbling in the dark with your parents upstairs, I suppose. I think for many young men, putting a condom on is less about how it "feels different" and more about the sudden realization of "Holy crap, putting this on means I'm going to have sex with another person! OMG." And then you panic and whoops. In your case, it sounds like by going without porn or masturbating for a while, your desire for sexual stimulation overwhelms that panic.

    Also, another question: My GF can't seem to orgasm, or rather, she has me stop if I'm fingering her or going down on her because she gets overwhelmed she says. We talked about possibly going past this to see if it would lead to an orgasm, because we were both virgins before we met each other so neither of us have too much experience with this. She says that it feels like she might orgasm when we're actually having intercourse, which from everything I've read, sounds odd, as most women can get off with just clitoral stimulation? (Or am I wrong on this fact?)

    From everything that I've read, dudes stay hard wearing a condom. Seriously though, there's a pretty significant difference between "women" and "your woman." Again, this is more complicated than dudes because dudes generally get off with one type of motion (well some dudes need anal or scrotal stimulation, but whatever), whereas women have, let's say, 2.5 parts: the clitoris, the vagina, and their breasts. Some women get off with one (or 1.5), the other, both, or neither. Some women will need you to have normal intercourse and rub her clitoris at the same time, while others will orgasm with just vaginal stimulation. Some need to get themselves off, and others will get off via oral sex by itself or oral sex plus digits or a simple sex toy. Some need sex toys period.

    I think for women one of the better approaches is to ask how she masturbates, and if she doesn't, then that is probably the start of the "problem." Just like I mentioned above, sex with another person adds a new layer of emotions to the mix, and she might simply not be able to get to that point with someone else there. But you shouldn't "force it" or try to get her off against her will as you're more likely to simply make her sore or sensitive than cause any good feelings.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Regarding the second point: You're pretty wrong, and you should definitely never say something like that to your girlfriend. As everyone in the world will tell you, women are a lot more complicated than men when it comes to sex. It is not at all uncommon for some women to achieve orgasm primarily from penetration and the stimulation that comes with it, nor is it at all abnormal for a woman to describe receiving oral sex as "too intense after a point." It's certainly more common for women to prefer clitoral stimulation to penetration, but it's not a universal rule by any stretch.

    Edit: No no no no no do not "power through" that uncomfortable feeling she gets from extended clitoral stimulation, unless she wants to. Anecdotally, I can tell you that some women do not like the sensations they will get from extended, direct clitoral stimulation. She may find that she's too sensitive for that, and prefer the indirect sensations she gets from other "activities."

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  • AlternateAcctAlternateAcct Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I didn't tell her it was odd, I just found it odd myself. Secondly, it wasn't really my idea to power through, she kind've want to see what happened. She wasn't in pain or anything.

    Also to your point eggy toast: It's not necessarily taking me a while to put on a condom, but we've had some problems getting in (not as easy to feel) after I put the condom on. Maybe we should be having sex with the lights on so its easier to see? I don't know.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I didn't tell her it was odd, I just found it odd myself. Secondly, it wasn't really my idea to power through, she kind've want to see what happened. She wasn't in pain or anything.

    If she says "ugh, this is frustrating -- let's just see what happens! Don't stop!" then you should do what she says. That's just common bedroom courtesy. ;D
    Also to your point eggy toast: It's not necessarily taking me a while to put on a condom, but we've had some problems getting in (not as easy to feel) after I put the condom on. Maybe we should be having sex with the lights on so its easier to see? I don't know.

    Why is it dark? Do you not like what your girlfriend looks like naked?

    Seriously though, more to your specific situation it seems like you're easily stimulated visually -- you enjoy porn, you can get hard with your girlfriend, you arguably like seeing her take her clothes off, etc. Now you say that it's dark and you can't see to actually begin having sex. It sounds like you're just a visual person, like a lot of people. Having the lights on so your girlfriend can see you might help her out as well.

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  • saint2esaint2e Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Common problems with those new to sex, sounds like. As I'm recently married, and recently started having sex, I can see a lot of similarities. Both my wife and I were virgins before marriage.

    Eggy has some good advice in that you should ask how she gets herself off, and then go from there. Definitely communicate and have her tell you what works and what doesn't.

    Definitely leave the lights on so you can see what you're doing down there, there's nothing more likely to turn Mr. Happy into Mr. Frowny they trying to find your way around down there.

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  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    i think people are interpreting "overwhelmed" differently.

    When she's "overwhelmed" is she getting flushed, and breathing heavily? that sounds like the point right before orgasm, and i've heard that can scare girls the first time. (hence the power through advice i imagine)

    if it's a pain thing, definitely stop when she tells you to, or you may find yourself not getting any while she ices down her lady bits.

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  • DisrupterDisrupter Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Honestly, if this is your first partner, your probably overthinking/worried.

    Porn allows you to not worry or think about the erection, so you dont lose it. Eventually you will become more and more comfortable to the point where losing it isnt an issue. With my first partner it was similar. Heck I just had a bacherlors party where I couldnt really get a boner with a lapdance because I was way too nervous and felt awkward.

    Its a catch 22 though, because until the problem starts going away, the first thing your going to be thinking is "OMG I gotta get this condom on and my penis inside her before I ruin this!" Which, isnt the most fun way to have the sex.

    Does she "help" you out? Or is it just boner-condom-vagina?

    It may help if she gave some attention down there, but at the same time if you ask for it youll likely get even more focused on maintaining it, and might lose it quicker.

    Then again, I could be way off and it could just be stress. But, in a young man, I doubt its physical, and its likely mental.

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  • mullymully Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I just wanted to kind of explain that feeling she gets, because I can relate to it - that "overwhelmed" feeling she's explaining? Imagine you have to sneeze, and you keep getting to the "AH ... AH..." part, but the "CHOO!" never comes. That is what it feels like. Kind of uncomfortable, kind of like, eye-watering nose-burn type feeling, but in your crotch. Of course, I am assuming this is what she means - I might've said overly-sensitive ... over-whelmed sounds more emotional? Something to ask about, anyway.

    All you can really do at that point - if it's the same thing - is let her take over on herself, or apply more pressure and see if that helps at all. It's not your fault that it's happening, you aren't doing anything wrong, it just happens -- and it's frustrating for those of us that it happens to!

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  • 3drage3drage Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Do you take any medications?

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  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Regarding you:
    Potentially your body might be used to rising quickly and finishing promptly through your porn habit. I'd cut back. Also - foreplay is your friend.

    Foreplay is a really useful tool for both your situations. There's absolutely no hurry remember. If you're all "lights off, under the covers" try mixing it up. make sure the room is warm, get some candles and start... exploring. The longer you prolong it and the more you get turned on the better it gets. Remember, with foreplay if you're new, it's about figuring out what each other likes and responds to. A learning experience, so communicate throughout and have a laugh while enjoying it.

    Re: Her.
    As started above - sex is so much more that either clitoral or penile stimulation. Use foreplay to figure out what she likes and remove all pressure on her to come. I had a GF that found it hard to orgasm, she was really worried about it. I just smiled and said "Awesome. I'm going to have all kinds of fun helping you out. And if it doesn't happen, then darn - we'll try again another time..." She found it really easy after that - and I know of women that had to "learn to orgasm". Listen to her, and never assume you know more about her than she does. In sex, very little is "normal" or "weird".

    It's not a myth when people say the largest erotic organ is the brain. If you concentrate too much on the physical, then you might encounter these kinds of frustrations.

    EDIT: Some women don't dig direct finger stimulation. Some love it, some find it too rough. If she's a virgin, she's probably quite sensitive and it might be uncomfortable. Try oral, and try slowing the movement down.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Edit: No no no no no do not "power through" that uncomfortable feeling she gets from extended clitoral stimulation, unless she wants to. Anecdotally, I can tell you that some women do not like the sensations they will get from extended, direct clitoral stimulation. She may find that she's too sensitive for that, and prefer the indirect sensations she gets from other "activities."

    As others have said before me, "overwhelmed" is a vague word to go on, but it's not uncommon to hear from women that the feeling write before orgasm is uncomfortable (the pre-sneezing feeling is a good comparison) and if that's what it is then pushing through it, carefully, may do the trick.

    Obviously if "overwhelmed" is physical pain or chafing, that advice doesn't apply.

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  • InkSplatInkSplat 100%ed Bad Rats. Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I'd actually recommend 69ing. Having her focusing on something while things are being done to her can be a good way to get an orgasm to "sneak up" on a girl who otherwise is so focused on having one that she can't.

    Edit: Also, why are you guys only doing it in the dark? Is there an actual reason?

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    admanb wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Edit: No no no no no do not "power through" that uncomfortable feeling she gets from extended clitoral stimulation, unless she wants to. Anecdotally, I can tell you that some women do not like the sensations they will get from extended, direct clitoral stimulation. She may find that she's too sensitive for that, and prefer the indirect sensations she gets from other "activities."

    As others have said before me, "overwhelmed" is a vague word to go on, but it's not uncommon to hear from women that the feeling write before orgasm is uncomfortable (the pre-sneezing feeling is a good comparison) and if that's what it is then pushing through it, carefully, may do the trick.

    Obviously if "overwhelmed" is physical pain or chafing, that advice doesn't apply.

    I've dated two girls who felt "overwhelmed" by oral sex, in the sense that someone described above. They were never quite getting to orgasm, but were becoming more and more sensitive, to the point where it was no longer pleasurable. I guess this is a good place for OP to talk it out with the girlfriend to see if it's just pre-orgasmic build up, or a signifier that without penetration she's going to have trouble orgasming and will want to switch activities.

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  • AlternateAcctAlternateAcct Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Well usually the reason its dark (we've had sex a few times with a light or two on) is because its late, no other reason (And in the beginning she was kind of conscious about how she looked naked, so there was that too). We usually do a lot of foreplay, but maybe I should have her try helping me keep my erection, she seems to stay away from there (she wasn't afraid of it at first, but was a little rough, so I told her it was kind've sensitive and she's kept away from there mostly since).

    As far as I've talked with my GF about what overwhelmed means, its that shes getting very sensitive down there, not pain, but to the point that it usually becomes uncomfortable. I've tried going down on her as well and that has the same "problem", she really likes it, but it doesn't get her to orgasm. I also haven't been putting any pressure on her (or so I think), we've just been trying to figure it out gradually like some of you have said.

    On a different note about the porn: Does anyone know of any good porn blocking software? I want to keep myself from being tempted to look at it.

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  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    It's almost definitely performance anxiety.

    Some girls have all kinds of mental barriers between them and their first orgasm. Does she masturbate?

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  • AlternateAcctAlternateAcct Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    DodgeBlan wrote: »
    It's almost definitely performance anxiety.

    Some girls have all kinds of mental barriers between them and their first orgasm. Does she masturbate?

    Haven't asked her, but I doubt it.

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  • mullymully Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Well, that's something that should be suggested to her, then. How can you ever expect to learn how to please her if she doesn't even know how to please herself?

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  • InkSplatInkSplat 100%ed Bad Rats. Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Even if she does masturbate and can get herself off, however, that doesn't mean it'll be the same for you.

    Some women can orgasm easily via masturbation, but have a much, much harder time with a partner, just because the sensation is completely different.

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  • SynaesthesiacSynaesthesiac Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Doesn't anybody listen to loveline?

    It is natural for her not to achieve orgasm until her mid 20s. Even then, there could be a trick to it. Some women can only climax through intercourse, cunnilingus, fingering or whatever else you can come up with. As her body matures she will unlock the orgasm achievement, she can communicate what floats her boat to you and then you can go to town.

    If you are having problems keeping it hard with a condom on, try other condoms.

    Gonna add on: She shouldn't feel like she isn't adequate or that her body is not performing. It is not something you can force, it will come out on its own. You might have to work with her and support her if she starts feeling depressed about it. Being comfortable with your own body goes a long way in a relationship.

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  • CryogenCryogen Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Also to your point eggy toast: It's not necessarily taking me a while to put on a condom, but we've had some problems getting in (not as easy to feel) after I put the condom on. Maybe we should be having sex with the lights on so its easier to see? I don't know.

    If it is taking too long to 'get it in', is it a lubrication issue? Use lube if you aren't. Some girl's natural lubrication isn't slippery enough, even if it seems like they are soaking wet, and particularly when using condoms. Is it an issue of 'finding the hole'? Try having her guide you in.

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  • FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Erection problems can be caused by:

    1. Stress
    2. Medication to control high blood pressure (Hypertension)
    3. Low Testosterone
    4. Physical damage to the penis (trauma, being kicked by Bruce Lee down there, etc)
    5. Poor diet
    6. Age (A decline in sex drive is observed in men over 40)
    7. Religion
    8. Uncontrolled High Blood Pressure (Hypertension)
    9. Alcohol

    Watching porn is not a cause, but could make you see your partner not as attractive as Teagan Presley :).

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Fantasma wrote: »
    Watching porn is not a cause, but could make you see your partner not as attractive as Teagan Presley :).

    It absolutely can be a cause. You can pretty much desensitize yourself to anything but porn. It's not like we're saying watching porn = erectile dysfunction all the time.

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  • FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Oh, I forgot, another cause for impotence or erectile dysfunction is:

    10. Diabetes

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  • SpacemilkSpacemilk Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    It is natural for her not to achieve orgasm until her mid 20s. Even then, there could be a trick to it. Some women can only climax through intercourse, cunnilingus, fingering or whatever else you can come up with. As her body matures she will unlock the orgasm achievement, she can communicate what floats her boat to you and then you can go to town.
    O_o I have NEVER heard this and would love a cite. I had my first orgasm at 18, and both my roommates first masturbated at aget 6 and 7. (I know that's incredibly early, they got caught by their parents and didn't masturbate again til they were 14 or so, but still... much earlier than their 20s)

    edit: To the OP, just take it slowly for her first orgasm. Sometimes it can be kinda scary, you don't necessarily know what you're feeling or what is happening. Also you need to get your girl to relax and not think about it - overthinking is the best way to kill the feeling and lose the potential to orgasm.

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Masturbating at age 6 is very different from orgasming at age 6.

    I've certainly heard that a lot of women at the very least, have particular difficulty achieving orgasm until their 20s(probably was indeed Loveline), but that could be because the parties involved just don't have a lot of experience with sex at that age.

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  • HorusHorus Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Figgy wrote: »
    Fantasma wrote: »
    Watching porn is not a cause, but could make you see your partner not as attractive as Teagan Presley :).

    It absolutely can be a cause. You can pretty much desensitize yourself to anything but porn. It's not like we're saying watching porn = erectile dysfunction all the time.

    There are plenty of studies where people who watch porn get a warped view about sex and how they view their partners. Also remember in some psych class in college porn can make you self conscience about your body that you loose interest in actual intercourse. The only thing the amount you watch varies as what's considered harmful

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/get-out-your-mind/201009/watching-porn-the-problem-must-not-be-named
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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited September 2010
    No no no we are not having the porn debate here shut up.

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  • SpacemilkSpacemilk Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Septus wrote: »
    Masturbating at age 6 is very different from orgasming at age 6.

    I've certainly heard that a lot of women at the very least, have particular difficulty achieving orgasm until their 20s(probably was indeed Loveline), but that could be because the parties involved just don't have a lot of experience with sex at that age.
    Yes but Loveline =/= qualified studies. I'm just asking for something more than a few compiled anecdotes, that's all. I asked my roommates and they believe they experienced orgasms long before 20, which I realize is another anecdote, but that's why I'm wondering if there is hard data that shows us 3 girls are far outside the norm.

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I used to have a hard time with condoms 'cus they constricted my junk. Try some bigger condoms?

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Spacemilk wrote: »
    Septus wrote: »
    Masturbating at age 6 is very different from orgasming at age 6.

    I've certainly heard that a lot of women at the very least, have particular difficulty achieving orgasm until their 20s(probably was indeed Loveline), but that could be because the parties involved just don't have a lot of experience with sex at that age.
    Yes but Loveline =/= qualified studies. I'm just asking for something more than a few compiled anecdotes, that's all. I asked my roommates and they believe they experienced orgasms long before 20, which I realize is another anecdote, but that's why I'm wondering if there is hard data that shows us 3 girls are far outside the norm.

    I think there may be some misremembering here with regards to vaginal orgasms and clitoral orgasms. I don't know about a specific age statistic, but most women will never achieve vaginal orgasm through intercourse. That's just how it is.

    You hear that almost every show on Loveline (I listen on the way home from work and hear it constantly) because there are so many callers concerned with not being able to reach climax that way.

    I can say that my girlfriend was able to reach orgasm through clitoral stimulation as young as age 16.

    Edit: That was nine years ago. Just to clear up any gasps that might occur.

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