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My twenty year old brother passed away this weekend. We are trying to get his things in order and I come to find out he owed about a Grand to a credit card. Any one know how this debt will be handled? Is our family responsible for it?
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EshTending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles.Portland, ORRegistered Userregular
My twenty year old brother passed away this weekend. We are trying to get his things in order and I come to find out he owed about a Grand to a credit card. Any one know how this debt will be handled? Is our family responsible for it?
No, you won't be responsible for it. If his estate can pay for it, that will happen, otherwise the credit card company is out of luck.
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Deebaseron my way to work in a suit and a tieAhhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered Userregular
edited September 2010
Unless your parents cosigned, they aren't liable. Sorry for your loss.
At least in Michigan, part of the process is publishing a notice in the local paper. It's just a formality, like the publication before you can change your name, but the basic gist is that the publication names the deceased and their representative or the executor of their estate, and names a deadline (I think it's 3 months after the publication) by which all debts must be properly reported to the representative, or they're permanently barred.
Sort of like a collector, if the creditor can't figure out where they have to go, you generally don't have to help them out. I let my mother's insurance flounder around bugging the rest of the family, when they finally found their way to me I just sent them a copy of the publication and told them they were two months past the deadline and could politely go stuff themselves. Some doctors will even drop bills when they learn the patient is deceased, since the insurance portion will still pay out, not that that's relevant here.
You're sort of responsible for it in a way. Whoever's handling the estate would pay the debts out of the estate or sell property from the estate to pay them, so nobody has to pay the bill, but it means less estate to distribute. Depending on the state some or maybe all property might be protected. When I did this for my parents, a house owned free and clear was protected and didn't have to be liquidated if the rest of the estate didn't cover debts, but a car wasn't and you could be forced to sell it to pay debts.
Thanks for the answer. Follow up question though. Since my brother was 20 years old, he pretty much has no estate. The only property that was on his name was his car, and that was destroyed in the wreck that took his life. Does this change things? There's basically 0 dollars for his estate.
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Deebaseron my way to work in a suit and a tieAhhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered Userregular
edited September 2010
If insurance pays out money on the car, then they may have a claim to it.
Kyougu, I'm sorry for your loss. My father passed away without a will so if you have any questions feel free to PM me.
As for a $0 estate, if there is no money in the estate then that's the end of the debt. You'll likely have to send copies of the death certificate so get at least 5 of those. Remember, unless someone cosigned for something no one can come after you or your family for his debt.
kaliyamaLeft to find less-moderated foraRegistered Userregular
edited September 2010
Sorry for your loss, kyogu.
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ceresWhen the last moon is cast over the last star of morningAnd the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
edited October 2010
Sorry to hear this... my grandparents DID have an estate, and fighting with every utility as well as various banks and so forth... well, it made her life very unpleasant for a while.
I hope this goes as smoothly as possible for you.
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MichaelLCIn what furnace was thy brain?ChicagoRegistered Userregular
edited October 2010
Sorry for your loss.
Be sure your family knows not to talk to any CC or other bill collector. Don't give any info to anyone, particularly over the phone.
edit: Was he signed up for XBL or any subscriptions? Not really something you need to focus on immediately, but may want to send notices to any sites/services he had an account on.
Collectors will probably tell you or your parents that you ARE responsible and try to scare you, but you aren't. Actually, i think if they do you can sue them for violating the fair credit practices act (or whatever it is actually called).if you are so inclined.
Thanks for all the condolences. It's been rough, but today we spread my brother's ashes and it made me feel a bit better. It was more of a celebration of his life.
Also, I am a bit relieved to hear that we're not responsible for the bill, as that was weighing a bit heavily on the family. I'm assuming that hospital bill works the same way?
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Deebaseron my way to work in a suit and a tieAhhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered Userregular
edited October 2010
Was your brother on your parent's insurance?
If not. No.
If so, they may be liable for copays/deductibles/coinsurance per the plan, but I'm really not sure.
Thanks for all the condolences. It's been rough, but today we spread my brother's ashes and it made me feel a bit better. It was more of a celebration of his life.
Also, I am a bit relieved to hear that we're not responsible for the bill, as that was weighing a bit heavily on the family. I'm assuming that hospital bill works the same way?
That's probably a bit different. You should look into it.
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When my dad passed the hospital cancelled the bills even though he had an estate. Talk to the hospital and find out and talk to your insurance company. If he didn't have insurance then it's like the credit card debt and you only pay if there's an estate.
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No, you won't be responsible for it. If his estate can pay for it, that will happen, otherwise the credit card company is out of luck.
Oh, by the way, you'll probably get calls from them trying to collect on it. Don't pay anything.
Sort of like a collector, if the creditor can't figure out where they have to go, you generally don't have to help them out. I let my mother's insurance flounder around bugging the rest of the family, when they finally found their way to me I just sent them a copy of the publication and told them they were two months past the deadline and could politely go stuff themselves. Some doctors will even drop bills when they learn the patient is deceased, since the insurance portion will still pay out, not that that's relevant here.
You're sort of responsible for it in a way. Whoever's handling the estate would pay the debts out of the estate or sell property from the estate to pay them, so nobody has to pay the bill, but it means less estate to distribute. Depending on the state some or maybe all property might be protected. When I did this for my parents, a house owned free and clear was protected and didn't have to be liquidated if the rest of the estate didn't cover debts, but a car wasn't and you could be forced to sell it to pay debts.
As for a $0 estate, if there is no money in the estate then that's the end of the debt. You'll likely have to send copies of the death certificate so get at least 5 of those. Remember, unless someone cosigned for something no one can come after you or your family for his debt.
When my great aunt died she had a zero funds estate, and we had to go through the process of presenting a couple of places with death certificates.
So like said above, have extras.
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I hope this goes as smoothly as possible for you.
Be sure your family knows not to talk to any CC or other bill collector. Don't give any info to anyone, particularly over the phone.
edit: Was he signed up for XBL or any subscriptions? Not really something you need to focus on immediately, but may want to send notices to any sites/services he had an account on.
Collectors will probably tell you or your parents that you ARE responsible and try to scare you, but you aren't. Actually, i think if they do you can sue them for violating the fair credit practices act (or whatever it is actually called).if you are so inclined.
Also, I am a bit relieved to hear that we're not responsible for the bill, as that was weighing a bit heavily on the family. I'm assuming that hospital bill works the same way?
If not. No.
If so, they may be liable for copays/deductibles/coinsurance per the plan, but I'm really not sure.
That's probably a bit different. You should look into it.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.