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Graphic novel(s) for catholic high school

FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night manChampion of the sunRegistered User regular
edited October 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm looking for a graphic novel (or series of) that would be appropriate for high school students in a catholic school. I immediately thought of Scott Pilgrim, since music, video games, etc. would be perfect for their interests, but the administration is pretty old school in their way of thinking. Based on a synopsis, he Scott has a gay room mate. Unfortunately, that wouldn't fly in a catholic school.

Any other ideas?

Please don't let this turn into an argument of whether or not catholic schools should be more accepting of homosexuality. This isn't the place, and the point is that it wouldn't be accepted. So, anything else?

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Oni Press has a lot of good graphic novels in their library.

    You might want to try North World, by Lars Brown.

    It can also be read online for free (but you should support the artist)

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  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    What about Beck. It's a manga, and been adapted for an anime. It's about kids in a band and focused about music. Now, it's been a while but I don't remember anything objectionable in it beyond a guy always being shirtless.

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    The first part of Persepolis (titled Persepolis: The Story of a Childhood) by Marjane Satrapi doesn't have anything objectionable in it and it's pretty good. There's also Maus I and II by Art Spiegelman, they get used in a lot of high schools.

    These are both a little bit heavier and more topical than something like Scott Pilgrim, it depends on what you're looking to get out of the book.

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    As far as content is concerned, there need not be any religious context whatsoever. It is for the English department. It just can't overstep the rather outdated policies the school needs to follow because it is part of a catholic board.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    do the gn's have to be independent?

    Whedon's Astonishing X-Men is pretty good

    Also the Kevin Smith run on Daredevil deals with a lot of Catholic issues in general and is pretty well written and doesn't step on a lot of toes with the way they tie it up, but it might be too much...

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Ok so maybe not Persepolis. There's a trilogy by Dong Hwa Kim that's quite good and could work for you, the titles are The Color of Earth, The Color of Water, and The Color of Heaven.

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  • wogiwogi Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    The best thing I can suggest to do, because there are so very very many graphic novels, is go to your local comic shop. The guys there will be able to give you any and all information that you'd need, and will have an in depth knowledge of the genre. If you want something content friendly (and really, nothing is coming to my mind, but I was never that big in to the art form) they'd know what direction to point you in.
    They'd also know how easy it is to get a lot of copies of the novel in question.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Ultimate Comics Spider-Man is always a good choice for anyone getting into comics. It's fun, interesting, well-written and in terms of Catholic school doesn't break any of the rules as far as I am aware. As Amateurhour says Daredevil is also a good choice, he is a catholic and it is dealt with very well especially in more recent runs. Personally I feel that Brubaker's stuff is a good choice.

    But yes, Ultimate Spider-Man would be my first choice. As well as fitting the bill it is also consistently of a very high quality.

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  • NotYouNotYou Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Elin wrote: »
    What about Beck. It's a manga, and been adapted for an anime. It's about kids in a band and focused about music. Now, it's been a while but I don't remember anything objectionable in it beyond a guy always being shirtless.

    it has sex before marriage.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Solar wrote: »
    Ultimate Comics Spider-Man is always a good choice for anyone getting into comics. It's fun, interesting, well-written and in terms of Catholic school doesn't break any of the rules as far as I am aware. As Amateurhour says Daredevil is also a good choice, he is a catholic and it is dealt with very well especially in more recent runs. Personally I feel that Brubaker's stuff is a good choice.

    But yes, Ultimate Spider-Man would be my first choice. As well as fitting the bill it is also consistently of a very high quality.

    I mainly picked the Smith run just because it was a good collection. Upon recalling it though bullseye murders a few nuns, so that's probably a no-go.

    I'll second Ultimate Spider man. It's extremely all ages appropriate, as if it still holds to that mythical comics code of authority that your school would probably approve of, while dealing with some GREAT high school issues wrapped around some amazing artwork.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Isn't there a Battle Nun comic? :P

    In all seriousness, Mary Jane loves Spider-Man. Also Mini Marvels.

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  • wogiwogi Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    NotYou wrote: »
    Elin wrote: »
    What about Beck. It's a manga, and been adapted for an anime. It's about kids in a band and focused about music. Now, it's been a while but I don't remember anything objectionable in it beyond a guy always being shirtless.

    it has sex before marriage.

    Here's a question that might help some of us -
    What kind of literature is your school actively using in its English classes? Some examples?

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Some of the Robin/Nightwing/Outsiders/Teen Titans tpb's would also be a good choice.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    "Blankets" is a pretty powerful "coming-of-age while being religious" graphic novel... however there are a few nipples in there at one point.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Isn't there a Battle Nun comic? :P

    In all seriousness, Mary Jane loves Spider-Man. Also Mini Marvels.

    Marvel adventures too. Blue Beetle and Power Girl are also a couple of great choices, as is Batgirl, from the DC side of things.

    If you head over to Graphic Violence there are a bunch of people who will happily tell you about great, high quality comic books with nothing which breaches the code of this catholic school.

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  • seasleepyseasleepy Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    The Flight anthology comics I think would work well (see the previews for each book on the right-hand column) -- from what I recall, there's nothing that would press too many buttons in any of the books....

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    The Alex Ross series Marvels and Kingdom Come would be pretty good. They're pretty innocent, but deal with religion and some serious issues.

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  • B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    How about Serenity? It's a Christian manga.
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  • rocketshipreadyrocketshipready Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    KalTorak wrote: »
    "Blankets" is a pretty powerful "coming-of-age while being religious" graphic novel... however there are a few nipples in there at one point.

    Goodbye Chunky Rice would be much better thank Blankets for a Catholic school setting. Blankets might in fact get the OP fired (keep in mind, the book probably should be read by every Catholic high schooler out there), and Goodbye Chunky Rice has a lot of the same themes.

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  • SlicerSlicer Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Peen wrote: »
    The first part of Persepolis (titled Persepolis: The Story of a Childhood) by Marjane Satrapi doesn't have anything objectionable in it and it's pretty good. There's also Maus I and II by Art Spiegelman, they get used in a lot of high schools.

    These are both a little bit heavier and more topical than something like Scott Pilgrim, it depends on what you're looking to get out of the book.

    Seconding Maus. Since it won a Pulitzer you could use bring that up as a selling point.

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  • FagatronFagatron Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Preacher, it's very religious.


    In all seriousness, would your school be okay with Watchmen? It's kind of important and stuff, and it won awards and shit.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Fagatron wrote: »
    Preacher, it's very religious.

    In all seriousness, would your school be okay with Watchmen? It's kind of important and stuff, and it won awards and shit.

    Probably not between the nudity, sex outside of marriage and violence.
    On the other hand, it has won awards and is considered one of the top 100 novels of all time. I'd imagine the second would get it a pass in many schools.

    It might help if we knew what the exact school policy was.

    Suggestion wise: What about Hellboy? Sure, it's got demons, but the main demon is actively fighting evil in all it's forms. I haven't read much of it (working on it), but it seems pretty minimal on the sexual content.

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  • GoodOmensGoodOmens Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    The Sandman. There's nothing objectionable about it at all.

    I keed, I keed. Seriously, though, Maus seems like a great choice.

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  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Bone?

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  • NylonathetepNylonathetep Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Have you considered 300, the graphic Novel?

    How about some Japanese ones like Ghost in the Shell, Drifting Classroom, etc...

    or you can always falls back to Archies.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Magneto: Testament

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  • Metal Gear Solid 2 DemoMetal Gear Solid 2 Demo Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    You should probably clarify what these graphic novels would be for so we can better pick out graphic novels that would fit your needs and not just random ones that are good

    As well, a lot of the good graphic novels, like many of the recommendations found here, are not going to be appropriate for your situation. If you're doing it just for a literacy thing, just do novels

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  • LadyMLadyM Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Figgy wrote: »
    I'm looking for a graphic novel (or series of) that would be appropriate for high school students in a catholic school. I immediately thought of Scott Pilgrim, since music, video games, etc. would be perfect for their interests, but the administration is pretty old school in their way of thinking. Based on a synopsis, he Scott has a gay room mate. Unfortunately, that wouldn't fly in a catholic school.

    Any other ideas?

    Please don't let this turn into an argument of whether or not catholic schools should be more accepting of homosexuality. This isn't the place, and the point is that it wouldn't be accepted. So, anything else?

    Have you actually asked them if it would fly? Or did they give you a list of things "not allowed" or something?

    Because if not, you should ask. Some Catholic high schools are fine with that stuff. Others, not.

    But to offer some suggestions . . . The Abominable Charles Christopher (if he has any novelization out, not sure) or maybe Gunnerkrig Court (I know this one has a TPB out.)

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  • L Ron HowardL Ron Howard The duck MinnesotaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Chick tracts?

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  • OrogogusOrogogus San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Jack Chick hates Catholics, a lot.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Anything by Doug Tennapel, specifically Creature Tech. It's (partially) about a guy who renounced his faith to become a scientist only to find it again through a series of insane adventures.

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  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Chick tracts run counter to Catholic theology in almost every possible way. They're also hateful and stupid.

    Well, I know it's for an English class, but how about looking into translations of French graphic novels? I'm especially thinking about Asterix and Tintin.

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  • Metal Gear Solid 2 DemoMetal Gear Solid 2 Demo Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Chick tracts run counter to Catholic theology in almost every possible way. They're also hateful and stupid.

    Well, I know it's for an English class, but how about looking into translations of French graphic novels? I'm especially thinking about Asterix and Tintin.

    There are definitely english translations of these, do this.

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  • DarksierDarksier Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I Kill Giants worked out pretty well for me with a small seminar group - consisted of 11-12 graders. It's a great story that a lot of students found relevant, keeping their interest. It also has the bonus of offering up the potential for some analysis and differing interpretations. It's stand alone too, so you don't need to worry about if your students are comic savvy.

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  • LadyMLadyM Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Tintin, hell yes.

    Not exactly "graphic novels", but . . . do they have any Calvin & Hobbes collections?

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  • AgentBrysonAgentBryson Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Rent wrote: »
    Bone?

    I loved Bone!

    So...I also vote for Bone. This is a classic and if you suggest it I hope they don't throw it out because the ALA added Bone to their top 10 list of graphic novels that they might ban.

    http://www.hypergeek.ca/2010/09/ala-banned-books-week-2010-highlights-top-10-banned-graphic-novels.html

    But on the other hand Bone is listed in Time as the third best graphic novel of all time!

    http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1951793,00.html

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Bone is the best phonebook you'll ever read

    seriously though it's a serious story but draws lots of it's inspiration from classic cartoons and such

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Sounds like I should read Bone

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    wogi wrote: »
    NotYou wrote: »
    Elin wrote: »
    What about Beck. It's a manga, and been adapted for an anime. It's about kids in a band and focused about music. Now, it's been a while but I don't remember anything objectionable in it beyond a guy always being shirtless.

    it has sex before marriage.

    Here's a question that might help some of us -
    What kind of literature is your school actively using in its English classes? Some examples?

    The typical high school stuff. 1984, Brave New World, Animal Farm, Shakespeare, etc.

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    You should probably clarify what these graphic novels would be for so we can better pick out graphic novels that would fit your needs and not just random ones that are good

    As well, a lot of the good graphic novels, like many of the recommendations found here, are not going to be appropriate for your situation. If you're doing it just for a literacy thing, just do novels

    They are for the English department. The department head wants to specifically add a graphic novel to the curriculum because she wants something that would appeal to the students, especially those who might not find reading a regular novel that interesting.

    So, something that can be analyzed afterward to a certain degree.

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