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Moving to Australia: How?

AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriumsPlateau of LengRegistered User regular
edited October 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
Well life has worked itself out, I'm finishing my studies and then early next year marrying a lovely Australian woman <3 Unfortunately I have absolutely no clue how I proceed with the moving to Australia part - great opportunities there in Australia and I loved it when I visted. I currently live in New Zealand and I have literally been out of NZ once, ironically enough the visit to Australia I just mentioned. So second time I leave NZ it's to actually move entirely to another country! Kind of an odd way of doing things I know.

So I'm utterly clueless as to what I need to do, I imagine I need the following:

A work visa or something, so I can stay in the country and get a job etc. I have a solid science degree here, so there isn't much of a problem in that regard thankfully!

How do I get my stuff to Australia? Should I even be trying to bring all my stuff to Australia? How much will a bunch of DnD books and my vidja game consoles cost to move over?

Who do I need to contact and such forth? Is there an easy way of doing this?

Applying for citizenship or similar?

Basically I don't have a clue how to do this, what I can do and just how pheasible things are to bring (like my books, video game consoles and such. Should I just be selling these?). Any advice is appreciated, especially just knowing where to begin.

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  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I have no direct experience.

    This is where I'd start.

    http://www.immi.gov.au/

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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    new zealand and australia have a pretty good relationship when it comes to travel; fallingman's link is on the right track, but this is what you need to read.
    The 1973 Trans-Tasman Travel Arrangement has allowed Australian and New Zealand citizens to enter each other's country to visit, live and work, without the need to apply for authority to enter the other country.

    so basically it's going to be no problem. read that page anyway to get the down-low

    i've moved internationally a couple of times, and it's going to get easier the more you're willing to shed. books are hard because they're heavy. consoles are okay, but you might want to choose one and get rid of the rest. seafreight is an option - you can usually get a big crate and fill it up to whatever weight you need, but if you can manage to squeeze into a couple of suitcases you're going to save yourself a hell of a lot of time and money

    what city are you moving to?

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  • AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I am moving to the wonderful Sydney <3

    I loved it the moment I saw it.

    Also I must admit, reading the immigration website there actually confused me more than it helped :( However your link has made life a lot more easy! I actually was under the impression the Australian government had obliterated that piece of law. I am surprised to see they didn't! It should just about cover me though!

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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    awesome! i'm in sydney, it is indeed wonderful

    i'd start scoping out jobs at seek.com.au before you move over, even just to give you an idea of the job market. and if you see the perfect role i don't think it would be out of the question to apply for it from abroad

    in terms of citizenship / permanent residency, in most cases i'd recommend making sure your relationship with your partner is well documented - but since theoretically you can live and work in australia as long as you want anyway, all you need to do is stay here for a certain length (i think it's four or five years?) before applying for citizenship. that said, it's probably worthwhile making sure you keep and use a joint bank account, and register all your bills and major investments in both of your names anyway. if you have a demonstrable, legitemate relationship with an australian you've got your arse covered

    other than that, get ready, get excited! if you need more advice on sydney specifically let me know

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  • AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I already have and in my area (SCIENCE!) there is so much going it's not even funny. Mostly I am thinking about the process of moving, now you've got me straight on the visa part of things. What should I take? I do know the less I take the better, but man, I just don't know if I can let go of some of my stuff :(

    My precious DnD books....

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  • ashridahashridah Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    If you're marrying/married, the key is to establish ties to Australia. I don't know what kind of timeframe you're looking at, but the key thing to do is to start establishing a way to support your ties to Australia.

    Being married to an Australian is not enough. You need Friends there. You need financial ties there. You need work there.

    Friends you can arrange through your spouse. When you visit, take photos. Take lots of photos. Make sure they've got dates in their metadata, etc, you want to be able to show a history of contacts and relationships in Australia. This helps show that your marriage isn't a sham :)

    Open a bank account ASAP (you'll need to be physically present). Move some money there. Move more money there over time (your initial goal should be around 10K AUD). Open up other accounts, like superannuation (retirement) funds (simple super, keep the fees low), and move some money into it. This can get messy, however, since there are tax implications here. Talk to an accountant.

    Don't bother taking a single thing with you to Australia. Shipping them is difficult, and the transition for hardware can be a pain. You'll find it's cheaper to rebuild new computers and buy new consoles once you get there, and you won't have to deal with the NTSC => PAL conversion (not a big problem if you're using HDTV). Also note that there are some games with region coding.

    Other things like books are simply not cost effective to ship. They don't bother to do it commercially (books get manufacturered in Australia for the australian market), and you shouldn't either. Buy secondhand copies when you get there for essentials. Expect a price hike, however, as australia's smaller market means smaller margins, and higher prices.

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  • AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    NTSC and PAL isn't a problem, because New Zealand is also a PAL region :) But yeah, I am looking at my DnD books and am thinking that I am going to have to make a really hard decision :(

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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    if you're worried about getting it all into your flight luggage (usually two ~30kg suitcases and one or two less than 10kg carry-on pieces, depending on the airline), you could get a freight quote from somewhere like this. my partner's used this before and it was all good - i think it's a british company but i don't suppose that will make much difference.

    edit: oh you might find that with the budget carriers like virgin blue and jetstar popping up, your allowance might be much lower. make sure you look into that when booking the flight - if you go for the cheapest flight available you'll be looking at coming over with the clothes you're wearing and a backpack

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  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Work visas are generally intended to be temporary deals so if you're planning to settle down in Australia proper you're goping to have to apply for full citizenship.

    Sending things like books and games consoles (at your own risk) is worth it but furniture isn't. You're better off selling all your big stuff and buying new stuff over there.

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  • ZedarZedar Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    As far as I'm aware migrating from NZ to Australia is the simplest thing in the world, from a legal standpoint. A quick check of the immigration department's website (http://www.immi.gov.au/) shows that there is a special category of visa for New Zealanders which essentially lets you stay and work as long as you want. If you're marrying an Australian then getting permanent residency / citizenship should be a pretty trivial matter.

    For reference, my mother is a New Zealander married to an Australian, and she has been living and working here since 1987, so you shouldn't have any problems.

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  • ashridahashridah Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Aegeri wrote: »
    NTSC and PAL isn't a problem, because New Zealand is also a PAL region :) But yeah, I am looking at my DnD books and am thinking that I am going to have to make a really hard decision :(

    Okay, i have to admit here, that i missed the part about it being NZ -> AU, i assumed US -> AU. Some of the advice still stands (bank accounts, proof of connections, etc). The weight limits might be less of a problem, if you can make multiple trips, or send stuff via regular old post in a box (books will be heavy, still, however)

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  • romanqwertyromanqwerty Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Shipping Dnd books might prove to be an issue knowing the ridiculous number of books you have.

    You might want to look into trying to sell them and buy new ones when you get here and comparing whether that is cheaper that shipping them. Also look into how much baggage you are allowed on your flight (and what extra weight or bags cost)

    Personally, i'd try and bring as little as possible. If you're not sure you'll need it, leave it and you can always ship it later. Consoles are light enough that you could probably pad them with clothes and pack in a large suitcase.

    Also you're right there is alot of money in science right now. I'd have a look at the universities in Sydney and contact prospective research group supervisors about available post-docs (UNSW and USyd are the two big ones).

    Immigration should be a non-issue. Citizenship is optional as you can just get permanent residency.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2010
    OMG awesome Aegs, you're going to love it. Except for the heat. Can I have your spot in NZ pls?

    But anyway, you're like an extra state. The legals are no problem, just the shipping costs. I'd ebay anything that's both replaceable and heavy. Just remember that the exchange rate doesn't run in your favour, so re-buying things might need to wait until you're established and employed.

    Have you looked at this yet?

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  • AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    That website was extremely useful Cat <3

    Actually in my inquiries it looks like I might be able to get some of my stuff (like my most precious DnD books) to Aussie without a lot of fuss. Of course, I am not actually taking very much to Aussie so the cost is worth it overall. Sadly, it looks like my poor HDTV that has served me most faithfully won't be able to make the trip. I will miss him, but I already know of a good home for him.

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  • LemmyLemmy Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Try Seven Seas Worldwide for your shipping - you can choose if you want stuff sent by plane or ship (which is cheaper, but obviously takes longer).

    I used these guys to move from Austrailia to the UK and they were great.

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