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[WoW][Chat] Cata cata cata pon! (LOTS OF INFO IN THE OP)
Sterica
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Don't get too attached to this special 4.0 chat thread, as DeathMunkus could very well rise from the depths to shatter this thread and remake it in his own glorious image.
Are you secretly part of the Twilight's Beaver Cult?
Oh, and I would never forget about his partner-in-crime, Echo'gall.
READ BELOW BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS GOD DAMN YOU
Glyph Changes
Gem Changes
Stat Changes
Reforging Info
New Class Mechanics
Guild UI Changes
Streaming Launcher Info
Known Issues in 4.0.1
[url=Patch 4.0.1
Released October 12th, 2010
-The shattering is NOT occurring. This means NO changes to Azeroth's landmass.
-You can run ZG still.
-You CANNOT purchase your flying license in Azeroth.
-You CAN purchase your 310% mount speed for 5,000g.
-Your mounts WILL all scale to your highest skill level.
-You WILL get new talents and skills up to 80.
-You WILL get to reforge your gear. Talk to a guard for directions.
-You WILL get the new glyph system.
-All classes WILL get their new mechanics, if any.
-Stats WILL be changing. Armor Penetration, Mana per Five Seconds and so forth will be replaced with other stats.
-Guilds WILL have a cap of 1,000 members. Pre-4.0 guilds will be grandfathered in: they can stay past the hard cap but will be unable to invite new members until they go under 1,000.
-You will NOT have guild leveling.
-You will NOT have new class/race combos.
-I shouldn't have to say this, but you CANNOT roll Worgen or Goblins.
-Pre-Expansion events WILL be occurring. Enjoy!
-The Guild UI WILL be changed to the Cataclysm version.
-The events for Echo Isles and Gnomeregan have ended.
Patch 4.0.3
Expected late November
-The Shattering will occur, changing Azeroth's landmass.
-You can fly in Azeroth.
-The new race/class combinations will be available.
-Guild leveling will NOT be in.
-No, you still can't roll Worgen or Goblins.
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm
December 7th, 2010
-Guild Leveling is go, along with everything else, really.
-Yes, you can roll a fucking Worgen or Goblin.
Are you secretly part of the Twilight's Beaver Cult?
Oh, and I would never forget about his partner-in-crime, Echo'gall.
READ BELOW BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS GOD DAMN YOU
Glyph Changes
Gem Changes
Stat Changes
Reforging Info
New Class Mechanics
Guild UI Changes
Streaming Launcher Info
Known Issues in 4.0.1
[url=Patch 4.0.1
Released October 12th, 2010
-The shattering is NOT occurring. This means NO changes to Azeroth's landmass.
-You can run ZG still.
-You CANNOT purchase your flying license in Azeroth.
-You CAN purchase your 310% mount speed for 5,000g.
-Your mounts WILL all scale to your highest skill level.
-You WILL get new talents and skills up to 80.
-You WILL get to reforge your gear. Talk to a guard for directions.
-You WILL get the new glyph system.
-All classes WILL get their new mechanics, if any.
-Stats WILL be changing. Armor Penetration, Mana per Five Seconds and so forth will be replaced with other stats.
-Guilds WILL have a cap of 1,000 members. Pre-4.0 guilds will be grandfathered in: they can stay past the hard cap but will be unable to invite new members until they go under 1,000.
-You will NOT have guild leveling.
-You will NOT have new class/race combos.
-I shouldn't have to say this, but you CANNOT roll Worgen or Goblins.
-Pre-Expansion events WILL be occurring. Enjoy!
-The Guild UI WILL be changed to the Cataclysm version.
-The events for Echo Isles and Gnomeregan have ended.
Patch 4.0.3
Expected late November
-The Shattering will occur, changing Azeroth's landmass.
-You can fly in Azeroth.
-The new race/class combinations will be available.
-Guild leveling will NOT be in.
-No, you still can't roll Worgen or Goblins.
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm
December 7th, 2010
-Guild Leveling is go, along with everything else, really.
-Yes, you can roll a fucking Worgen or Goblin.
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They've also officially announced that tomorrow is indeed the patch.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27189089214&sid=1
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Tomorrow sure will be fun.
By some unusual definition of fun.
EDIT: SEE. Sometimes they do say when there will be a patch!
Also based on what I've played from the beta/ptr everything is not going to suck but instead become more awesome and less facerolling. Unless if your definition of suck is you cannot faceroll everything anymore.
I'm pretty amped for healing, personally.
I'm not sure if being X yds away from the mob still increases the amount of threat needed to pull.
Unless of course you are on the higher end of things I guess. But yeah, challenge is going to be great and all, till you realize LFD has made you pug everything and those pugs are going to handle the culture shock of things not being quite as easy by being complete geese about it.
Oh and I dunno if anything changed, but I heard since blizz though we would be indefinately stronger due to these changes the ICC buff is going to be gone. If thats true (the latter, cause for the most part the former is not) then many guilds who were taking this wonderful gift to actually progress are going to be pood on REAL hard.
That being said, I plan on maybe spammin out some randoms to get a feel for what my alts will be like with decent gear, and because while I might replace the peices early, at least with 251ish gear I wont have to take every single green right away and instead can pick and choose what I actually like. Thats what I keep telling myself anyway.
Im not sure if you are talking about post 4.0, but it still does right now. I don't see that changing without a post telling us so because that would be a pretty significant ninja change. Besides, ranged classes lost thier talents reducing threat just like melee classes lost thier natural reductions, so it would kind of be like throwing up the double duce to all ranged classes.
I've also heard the dodge debuff went away.
It's my grafx card died two days before a major patch and all icc10/25 locks unused this week on my two chars that go there-face.
Whats frightening is that someone has probably seriously complained about this at some point.
I do welcome more of a challenge, but it's sounding like they're trying to make the game back into a chore, rather than entertainment.
I guess we'll find out come Wednesday though.
12k Ice Lances. 55k Arcane Blasts. $_WTF Conflagarates. $_KNIGHTSOFTHEROUND Kill Command. Healers might as well get an item that makes a "KICK ME" sign on their character model, they're going to be totally worthless.
There's an exact quote by GC that pretty much says exactly what they intend with this system.
Tanks will easily be able to hold one mob against single-target DPS, with some effort, can hold two more against incidental AOE, and the rest against healer aggro. But mobs are also going to hit harder, so you're going to need to CC a few things.
Don't get me wrong I loved being able to trivialize shitty DPS players by just tanking everything until it died, but I'm also looking forward to the challenge.
Meh, it's certainly not the revelation everyone made Cata out to be. They scaled back AoE nerfs and tanking changes after realizing they designed a whole XPac around facerolling, balanced DPS and Healing around a couple of specs and gave those a hearty handshake and a pat on the back (I don't recall receiving the latter, though; suppose I'll get it next XPac), and just recently started testing that other sorta major aspect of the game they were hoping to revamp. Think it was called PvP, or something.
Points for trying though, and for what it's worth they did follow through on quite a bit (cept for Spirit Link). Let's just hope they don't screw up gear again.
That's not true in my experience. I healed on the PTR in a random BG and did just fine. I was on a copy of my main without PvP gear though, while a lot of the premades have a full set of PvP gear, so that might have been a factor. But hey, when I can tree form up and survive against someone trying to blow me the fuck up for the entire cooldown I consider that a win.
Also I totally forgot to do the last bit of my 4.0.1 prep yesterday so I have to take care of it all today before our raid. Namely, get my badges and honor down below the softcap point and to finish collecting glyphs.
I'm particularly interested in how raid trash will work now, given how much of ICC is packs of 5-6 or more things that can't be CCed. Will ranged just single target them down individually? (this is the thing I am least looking forward to.)
That being said, I wholeheartedly welcome the move away from the aoe furball method of clearing pve content.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
I just hopped on the PTR, and yeah, "Chill of the Throne" is gone, so tanks get their 20% dodge back. The 30% buff was also gone, but Varian was absent, so the PTR may be stuck in a pre-buff mode. I can't remember if he was standing there at the entrance doing nothing back before the buff went in or not.
It's not so bad in a group, but it renders the middle heals useless. Their hps is too low to be worth using.
Now, this is much better at 85, but it will suck ass for now.
I don't think he was there at the start...
1v1 matters, clearly
oh wait, last time a healer could just barely outheal a single dps we had s5
edit: damage literally increased by 50% or more for most specs with the proper adjustments in reforging. it's ridiculous beyond excuse how i can drop a tree from 100-0% inside a deep with full hots on him.
What I'm not exactly 'excited' about, I intend to completely redo my UI but for a few things. ArkInventory I'm keeping, Auctionator, MSBT, Grid/Clique, Bartender4 most likely, probably Prat and maybe Elk's Buff Bars. Besides those, I'm dropping a bunch of other stuff, X-Perl is a big one I don't really intend to keep, BigWigs/LittleWigs (I think I'll switch to Deadly Boss Mods), my entire set of Fubar and related plugins I'm going to get rid of. I think I'll need MoveAnything (if it's actually been updated for 4.0), as I'd like to rearrange how I've been doing things, and part of that will be moving my minimap to the top middle of the screen which means I'll have to move the standard stuff that appears there off the side.
Ah well, we'll see how it goes. Despite keeping Bartender4, I want to rearrange how I do the bars, so I'll be wiping out the settings anyway. Ugh, I've been putting off thinking about this too much but I suppose it's eminent now.
Warrior (prot/fury... Arms?)
Priest (All 3, because I haven't gotten to try Holy yet)
Druid (Tree, Cat... Bear can wait)
Shaman (Probably all 3)
Paladin (Holy, Ret, I'll probably wait on Prot)
DK (The entire goddamned class. I haven't touched it in months, maybe for the best)
Sub-80:
Hunter's at 71, and who knows, I may actually enjoy the class again with the overhaul
Rogue's at 62, with heirlooms for both Mut and Combat
Warlock I'll probably save for Cata, many moons down the road.
.... shit
Also, the Justice Point conversion alone guarantees I'm going to have /trade turned off and probably /general as well.
You should have these turned off always.
This thread title made me giggle by the way.
Luckily the majority of those haven't changed too much! The only radical changes are DKs, Paladins and Hunters for major resource changes. Bear tanking changed a good amount too because it was boring as hell before.
Ret Paladin isn't nearly a big deal to figure out. You want to use your abilities when you fill up your bar. Use a priority system on your procs. The end.
...soo, after someone's RankWatch alerted me to the fact that my newly 80'd shaman was using a downranked spell, I thanked him and promptly downloaded the addon to make sure it never happened again, and to do a public service to everyone around me.
oh, the horror! Ignorance is bliss... get this addon and you will find that like 1 in 4 players use downranked versions of their core abilities... even people with 5000 gearscore... why god why...
EDIT: The new buttons for prot are Rend, Heroic Strike, and Cleave. I might be missing one. Prior you could get away with a macro for HS and Cleave (I had them binded to my revenge key), but the change means that you need to use a button to specifically use them during a fight.
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