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Computer no longer running games(selectively)

ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
edited January 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
I was grouped up with a friend in WoW tonight, and all of a sudden the game crashed on me. Hard lock, buh bye.

No big deal, I figured I'd restart the computer, and get it going again. Except it didn't work. When loading WoW, it tries to load, then says the program isn't responding, with the End Now button highlighted. The hard drive makes repeated noises (4 quick what sound like data reads in a second's time, then that sound repeats). The game shutting itself down makes the computer unusable for a couple of minutes.

Now, the LotRO beta is doing the same thing, as well as EQ2, and Heroes V. Heroes III works fine, as does the Sam & Max demo. Programs thus far are working fine... no issues with quicktime, firefox, IE, or WMP.

I'm running a scandisk now, but I don't really know what else I should be doing. That certain programs are not running, but others are, has me very confused, especially since everything was running fine an hour ago.

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  • robaalrobaal Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Your video card might be overheating or be damaged. Open the case and clean out all the dust*, check if the fan on the video card is spinning (if there is one) when the computer is on.
    If it still crashes after you've done that try pointing a large house fan at the open side of the computer to see if improving cooling will help


    *do not use vacuum cleaners or those electrostatic dusting wands on the components, as they might zap them with static electricity. Compressed air is often recommended, but it will most likely create a storm of dust. I just wipe the heatsinks with a crumpled paper tissue. Sometimes the heatsink is covered on the video card though so make sure that there's no dust clogging it up.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Blew out the computer with compressed air, wiped off the heat sink, and I'm still getting the same crashes. The fan on the video card is still running, so no worries there. I think I have an older video card that I can throw in and try... see if that may fix anything.

    I'm at a loss. If the above fails, should I move on to a windows reinstall attempt?

    Edit: I'm copying some stuff to a second drive (in case I had to reinstall, so I don't lose anything), and I'm starting to get some CRC errors. They're MP3s, and they play with Winamp just fine, but won't copy. (Data error (Cyclic Redundancy Check)).

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  • JHunzJHunz Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Shadowfire wrote:
    Blew out the computer with compressed air, wiped off the heat sink, and I'm still getting the same crashes. The fan on the video card is still running, so no worries there. I think I have an older video card that I can throw in and try... see if that may fix anything.

    I'm at a loss. If the above fails, should I move on to a windows reinstall attempt?

    Edit: I'm copying some stuff to a second drive (in case I had to reinstall, so I don't lose anything), and I'm starting to get some CRC errors. They're MP3s, and they play with Winamp just fine, but won't copy. (Data error (Cyclic Redundancy Check)).
    Sounds like your hard drive is going. Backup everything that you can before it goes completely.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    JHunz wrote:
    Shadowfire wrote:
    Blew out the computer with compressed air, wiped off the heat sink, and I'm still getting the same crashes. The fan on the video card is still running, so no worries there. I think I have an older video card that I can throw in and try... see if that may fix anything.

    I'm at a loss. If the above fails, should I move on to a windows reinstall attempt?

    Edit: I'm copying some stuff to a second drive (in case I had to reinstall, so I don't lose anything), and I'm starting to get some CRC errors. They're MP3s, and they play with Winamp just fine, but won't copy. (Data error (Cyclic Redundancy Check)).
    Sounds like your hard drive is going. Backup everything that you can before it goes completely.

    Yea... I backed up what I could... when I formatted the hard drive to try and reinstall windows, it hung several times. 55% for a couple minutes, and 79% for about 15 minutes.

    Sad... time for a new drive I suppose. I remember reading about the IBM Deskstars having issues a while ago. I suppose it's time for mine to die.

    Off to staples! :|

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  • robaalrobaal Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    It might also be bad memory - run MemTest at least for a few minutes to check for obvious errors before buying a new HDD.
    I think the easiest way to get MemTest is by downloading the Ultimate Boot CD Basic, which contains it and other useful diagnostic tools, and burning it to a bootable CD.

    Still, it probably is the HDD, and more space is usually useful even if it isn't it...

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  • redimpulseredimpulse Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Whereas I wouldn't discount Memory, it sounds to me like it is the HDD

    Quick clicking + CRC errors + IBM Deathstar = Toast.

    When purchasing your new hard drive, I'd put a recommend in for Seagate.

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'm personally a fan of Maxtor, but everyone else likes to tell me how much they suck. (I've never had a problem.)

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  • robaalrobaal Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Ruckus wrote:
    I'm personally a fan of Maxtor, but everyone else likes to tell me how much they suck. (I've never had a problem.)

    They are louder than Seagate/Samsung/new WD drives though.

    I can barely hear the drive when reading data off the Barracuda, while the Maxtors are definitely noticeable with normal usage and pretty scary-sounding if you're trying to do two operations on the same disk at once (eg. if a file is downloaded from you through LAN and you try to copy stuff at the same time).


    Seagate also has a 5y warranty on all OEM drives IIRC, and WD has it for the slightly more expensive "RE" series desktop drives (again - OEM). Retail drives from WD (the ones in a shiny box and stuff) have a 1y warranty. I'm not sure what the warranty on retail Seagate drives is, but I believe it is also shorter than on the OEM ones.

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    At night, the ice weasels come."

  • redimpulseredimpulse Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Also Maxtor had (still has some times) a major issue with their SATA drives spinning out. They'd just crap out, for no reason. I don't know if this had happened with any of their IDE batches. But now something to consider about hard drives:

    Samsung drives are built with Maxtor parts. Maxtor is now owned by Seagate. IBM drives are Toshibas, and are known for faultiness hence the loving term "Deathstar". Western Digital has always been known for producing drives that perform decently. They aren't outstanding or superb in any respect; they just get the job done.

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