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Will Bruce Wayne ever really die?
Ronin356
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Or any other DC character for that matter?
Jason Todd and Barry Allen are alive again. For me death in the DC universe seems so silly and pointless.
Jason Todd and Barry Allen are alive again. For me death in the DC universe seems so silly and pointless.
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It's the same thing in Marvel, dude
Also non-heroes that stay dead don't count
also
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But comic companies have to break the dependency a lot of readers have to the status quo, they've been taught that death and returns are such a trivial aspect that it's expected.
Sadly when you cater to a small narrow fanbase there isn't much real or true change you can do without them revolting most of the time.
Besides, with parallel universes, Earth-One style reboots and out of continuity all-ages books, any character can be in any story.
Because a story about their death and its aftermath is still a story about that character. I'm not in favor of mass character snuffing, it's just in the case of icons like Bruce Wayne, I'm totally okay if they go away for much longer than a year because there's a lot of story potential there. Plus, when it's big characters and not c-listers, they can do a lot of out of continuity stories so you can still get your Bruce Wayne fix but have a main storyline that takes place after them.
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Yup.
But Bruce Wayne didn't really die. You can do "after they died" stories and just have it as a fake like it is in Batman, no problem with that.
Alright I just want rid of all the Flashes.
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In that case, Thunderbird's the one who has stayed dead the longest (until recently?)?
Or maybe the original Vision.
Nope. Thread over.
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Characters die all the time, they just don't stay dead.
Didn't they say Cancer was special? Like, it was the universal manifestation of the evil of unchecked or something, and that's why there was no way to save Captain Marve, because if you get Cancer there is a point where nothing can stop it.
I kind of liked that idea, especially in that DnA really explored it in the Thanos Imperative, where Captain Marvel survived the cancer by accepting the power of unchecked life, destroying death and turning his universe into Cthulhu-land.
Really, it will be great if Cthulhu appears in that series, he's public use anyway. Somewhere like the command centre of the Inhumans, right in front of Medusa, and we get a splash page of her looking up at something mostly off panel and visibly going utterly insane. Silly bitch.
I mean... That might not be a huge deal for some, but when you're a superhero that relies on agile fighting and the ability to glide around skyscrapers like you're flying, being wheelchair bound might be just like death for someone like Bruce Wayne.
Superheroes dying in many comic universes are basically just a way to boost sales and have nerds drooling and foaming at the mouth. Which is essentially why they come back to life.
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After all TLB, how would you feel if your wife was raped on a satellite by a supervillain with light powers, while you were out fighting crime with your stretching powers, and then you read a comic that undermined the integrity of those serious and realistic developments?
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Ted Kord will come back. Hell, he already has in a sense, Booster is still hanging about with him in his series, just in the past. Honestly speaking Blue Beetle and Booster Gold together are just so great that at some point a writer will go "fuck it, random ressurection guff, now let's have some adventures," and I say good for whoever does it.
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Anyhow, to chime in on the broader topic at hand: I'm always puzzled by superhero fans that rail against how nothing ever changes in the Big 2 books. For me, that's kind of why I like them. I like seeing development over the course of a series, but I always want things to basically stay true to the iconic interpretation.
A Blue Beetle book starring Jaime Reyes can do a lot of things. He can get a new job, he can establish new relationships, he can break up with Traci 13 and start dating someone new, he can vacation in Minnesota and meet new villains, he can temporarily lose the power of the scarab and fight crime with gadgets from Ted's old ship, he can get a new teacher at his high school, and so on. But in the longterm, I always want that book to be about a teenager that fights crime in El Paso, using an alien scarab that talks to him.
For me, the insistence to always push characters forward in huge ways is just kind of silly, and ultimately makes a mess of things. I much prefer tales of the heroes having sort of iconic adventures. And if I want a comic where stuff does change in huge, memorable ways, I'll read something like Dynamo 5 or Invincible, where a singular creative vision is driving those characters towards a known end-point.
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This is true. However doing something, anything, too much makes it less good. Including death. Including resurrection.
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I can appreciate that maybe in context, you might be tired of something in particular, a well-written version with something to say is still going to be good. I mean, that's pretty much what Morrison's New X-men is - all the tired X-men cliches done so well that you didn't even notice until Xorneto.
Plus, I miss that time when the characters just got to hang out, have picnics, play baseball, and such. It seems that, with a lot of the push for big serious development in comics, a lot of the quiet, subtler stuff went out the window.
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Indeed you are correct, though people often say what they want to happen in a desire to make things good. For all their many flaws, it is very hard to find a fan who, at heart, doesnn't simply want to read comics that he loves. The problem is that comic fans are very often unaware of what makea a comic good, and suggest something rather stupid (not that some writers aren't much better).
The same thing happened with the death of Superman. I wonder how much that's going for these days. A lot of stores still have stacks of that issue.