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How do I tactfully keep this guy from putting his scissors through my hair?
I live across the street from a hair salon/barbershop owned and run by two women, who thus far have done an amazing job cutting my hair.
They also have another woman employed - who has done an excellent job on my hair as well - and a guy - who has fucked my hair up twice.
Is there some tactful way to say "nuh huh, fuck off, I want her"? Or what? At this point I've been there like six or so times and I don't even know if they take phone appointments for a particular haircutter.
But when I go there and the guy says "hey, how are you, come take a seat" I die a little inside. I get this vision of me taking $13 out of my wallet and setting it on fire, and then subsequently setting my hair on fire as well: in the end, I am a mad, raving, broke man with head aflame. In my vision. Or after this guy cuts my hair. Minus the fire, the vision isn't too much different from reality.
Is there some tactful way to say "nuh huh, fuck off, I want her"? Or what? At this point I've been there like six or so times and I don't even know if they take phone appointments for a particular haircutter..
ceresWhen the last moon is cast over the last star of morningAnd the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
edited November 2010
I would say try to make an appointment with your favorite one. That's what I do... and what my husband WISHES he did last time. >>
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Can you not just ask to see a particular stylist? Or is this one of those open seat barbers, where the first barber free takes the next customer?
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KalTorakOne way or another, they all end up inthe Undercity.Registered Userregular
edited November 2010
Most salon/haircuttery places I've been to will take appointments for specific people. I have two different ones I like at the salon I go to; I just call up the front desk and ask "Does Mohammad have any slots available for tonight? No? What about Sarah?" I think it's an accepted thing at salons that people have favorites.
Can you not just ask to see a particular stylist? Or is this one of those open seat barbers, where the first barber free takes the next customer?
Yeah, that's kind of how it is.
Also, I think the guy might be the owner's boyfriend or something. Maybe not, but I got that impression. I don't want to insult him. And really any of the women will do, so it's not like I actually want a specific barber, I just specifically don't want him.
Do you explain to the guy what you want, or do you just go "I dunno, just make it look good" when you sit down? That can count for a lot. If you have something specific in mind you want done to your hair tell them, if you give them a blank canvas and tell them to do whatever with, you can't really blame them for coming up with something you don't like.
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Do you explain to the guy what you want, or do you just go "I dunno, just make it look good" when you sit down? That can count for a lot. If you have something specific in mind you want done to your hair tell them, if you give them a blank canvas and tell them to do whatever with, you can't really blame them for coming up with something you don't like.
I told him. What I told him - specifically - today is not what I got. I didn't complain because I didn't want to be a bitch about it.
You live across the street from the place? Just go when he's not there.
It sounds more convenient than it is. They are only open past 6PM on Fridays, and Friday night is "I go out right after work night."
It is physically impossible for me to get home at or before 6PM on any other day.
And they are closed on Sunday.
So the only day I can go is Saturday and he seems to work on Saturdays.
The only reason I was able to go today is that I had to stay home from work anyway and decided to fit a haircut into my helter skelter. Sadly, he was there, and I got stuck with him.
I've had this issue at my local Great Clips. Most of the gals are okay, some don't do my hair the way I like, one so horrendously botched it that I went back the next morning and sat with three other people there for the exact same reason. They fixed it free of charge.
My solution is get the name of either of the gals you like to cut your hair, ask when they work next, and show up then. When you walk in, whether you have to wait or there's an open seat with the guy, ask "Do you mind if <blank> cuts my hair? She does it dang near perfect". Stylists barbers and the like all have their favorite clients. If he makes a big deal out of it, shrug it off. Everyone at that establishment should be mature enough to understand.
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The barber shop I go to doesn't take appointments, but every time I go there someone will walk in and point out who they're waiting on to have cut their hair, with informal lines forming.
What I am going to say sounds awkward but I've done this many many many times in my 20 years of getting my hair cut without a parent.
Just walk in, and when your turn comes up, let the next person in line go in front of you, until the stylist you like is available. Stylists of all people will be fine with you saying you like the way a particular person cuts your hair. The entire industry (at least in the UK) is built on the premise that people get their hair cut by someone they like.
If you walk in, and you are the only person there, and he is the only stylist, then just say "no offence, but I really like the way X cuts my hair and I'd prefer to wait for them".
If they act funny about it, then find another salon.
I'm sure it may feel awkward and rude to say this the first time, but I've done this at almost every single salon I've ever used more than once, and every time, the barber/stylist has been absolutely fine with it.
The barber shop I go to doesn't take appointments, but every time I go there someone will walk in and point out who they're waiting on to have cut their hair, with informal lines forming.
This. At almost any place you can walk it and just say you're waiting for a particular person. It might still hurt the guy's feelings a little bit, but it's part of his job.
The place I get my haircut is a salon/spa and makes appointments, but I've had the owner actually stay open a little later just so I can get my haircut. It helps that I'm a great tipper, but maybe you could speak to them and see if they might be willing to accommodate you.
There's only one woman at my local hair dressers that hasn't fucked up my hair, so whenever i ring them up or go in to see them i specifically request her. I don't think it's particularly rude.
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Personally, I find it's best to just have a single person you go to anyways because if they're professional they'll do a good job to start but also learn what you do and don't like so you get better and better cuts.
OTOH, I'd probably say something because he won't improve if he has no feedback saying he needs to. It's not being bitchy or an asshole or even rude. It's just business, you paid for something and you haven't received it.
Yeah, call them up and try and make an appointment with the girl you want. I learned to do this after a new girl ended up chopping my hair off, and waxing off both my eyebrows.
Also, if they do a bad job, telllll them. Don't sit in a chair after they wax your eyebrows clean off, cringe and say "it looks perfect..". Tell them that they waxed your eyebrows off and can't convey emotion properly anymore.
ceresWhen the last moon is cast over the last star of morningAnd the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
edited November 2010
Alyce you made my evening.
I once went into a salon and got a woman who had just had a Very Bad Day, involving horrible gossipy co-workers and something about a gift fund for someone who was retiring or having a baby or something. I wasn't paying too much attention to what turned into a fierce rant, because this woman was angrily waving scissors around awfully close to my face, and it was pretty distracting. Sudden moves or telling an already angry, kind of crazy, and coincidentally somewhat armed woman that she sucked didn't seem an option at the moment, so instead I let her finish, paid the minimum, and got out of there as fast as I could, never looking back.
When I got home and surveyed the damage I saw that not only had she cut my hair far too short, it was actually about two inches shorter on one side than the other. I got it fixed the next day by someone else, and a few months later the store with the crazy lady in it was gone, so all's well that ends well.
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Yeah, call them up and try and make an appointment with the girl you want. I learned to do this after a new girl ended up chopping my hair off, and waxing off both my eyebrows.
Also, if they do a bad job, telllll them. Don't sit in a chair after they wax your eyebrows clean off, cringe and say "it looks perfect..". Tell them that they waxed your eyebrows off and can't convey emotion properly anymore.
Yeah, call them up and try and make an appointment with the girl you want. I learned to do this after a new girl ended up chopping my hair off, and waxing off both my eyebrows.
Also, if they do a bad job, telllll them. Don't sit in a chair after they wax your eyebrows clean off, cringe and say "it looks perfect..". Tell them that they waxed your eyebrows off and can't convey emotion properly anymore.
I'm still upset about this incident.
Alyce, you're always adorable.
Drez, any barbershop worth their salt will take appointments. Call up, ask for an appointment with one of the girls and you're golden.
As to other general advice, when I moved I had to ask around for my barber, and in the end I got a great one. Finding a barber is like finding any other skilled tradesman, be it a mechanic, an electrician, or even a white-collar job like a lawyer or a doctor, asking around is key.
Seriously, even at Great Clips, if you like the way a specific person cuts your hair, just ask to wait until that person is free. They won't question you. And yeah, if they don't cut your hair the way you like it, you're allowed to tell them so. If they don't know what they are doing wrong, they can't fix it.
A couple years into college I learned how to cut my own hair to spend those few extra bucks on something else. I soon learned I was pretty good at it, and I was able to cut it exactly how I wanted it. I'm to the point now where if given the choice of going to a professional I always opt to do it myself because I know I can always get it to look better. I frequently get compliments from others after a haircut, and if I do want to grow it out a little longer, I always have the option of going to someone.
and a few months later the store with the crazy lady in it was gone, so all's well that ends well.
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OP- not sure why you think you'd need to 'suck it up' with the phone call. Do you think they'll recognize your voice? You don't need to tell them who you are until they're about to write your name down for the appointment. Just call. You'll be relieved afterward.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with hurting someone's feelings. I'd rather hurt someone's feelings for a few hours than hurt my precious hair that may take weeks to recover.
Tell him, "You know this is pretty terrible, I appreciate the effort but I don't like it." and if he asks you to sit down again say, "I'm sorry I would just really like XYZ to cut my hair, thank you though."
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Make note of where you are in the queue. When you know you're next, step outside and pretend to be on the phone. Watch which stylist finishes next. Crappy guy? You're still on the phone. Competent haircutter? Walk back inside and be ready for her to call you.
Can you not just ask to see a particular stylist? Or is this one of those open seat barbers, where the first barber free takes the next customer?
Yeah, that's kind of how it is.
Also, I think the guy might be the owner's boyfriend or something. Maybe not, but I got that impression. I don't want to insult him. And really any of the women will do, so it's not like I actually want a specific barber, I just specifically don't want him.
Barbers are cutthroat.
They love it when you call ahead and ask for them and they will fight to the death to defend that appointment.
My solution is get the name of either of the gals you like to cut your hair, ask when they work next, and show up then. When you walk in, whether you have to wait or there's an open seat with the guy, ask "Do you mind if <blank> cuts my hair? She does it dang near perfect". Stylists barbers and the like all have their favorite clients. If he makes a big deal out of it, shrug it off. Everyone at that establishment should be mature enough to understand.
Don't ask me why but I'm paranoid about doing that. I can't think of a way of saying "I want her to cut my hair" that doesn't sound like "I want her to have my children".
Can you not just ask to see a particular stylist? Or is this one of those open seat barbers, where the first barber free takes the next customer?
Yeah, that's kind of how it is.
Also, I think the guy might be the owner's boyfriend or something. Maybe not, but I got that impression. I don't want to insult him. And really any of the women will do, so it's not like I actually want a specific barber, I just specifically don't want him.
Barbers are cutthroat.
They love it when you call ahead and ask for them and they will fight to the death to defend that appointment.
And it's damned entertaining watching them go for the throat with a pair of clippers.
I'd have thought they'd use scissors for the job, nope. It's all clippers.
My solution is get the name of either of the gals you like to cut your hair, ask when they work next, and show up then. When you walk in, whether you have to wait or there's an open seat with the guy, ask "Do you mind if <blank> cuts my hair? She does it dang near perfect". Stylists barbers and the like all have their favorite clients. If he makes a big deal out of it, shrug it off. Everyone at that establishment should be mature enough to understand.
Don't ask me why but I'm paranoid about doing that. I can't think of a way of saying "I want her to cut my hair" that doesn't sound like "I want her to have my children".
Weird I know.
Actually, "I want her to cut my hair" or "I'd prefer for her to cut my hair" is the way to do it! Surprisingly, hairstylists do not see people wanting them to cut their hair as marriage proposals. Unless they are crazy. And who wants a crazy person cutting their hair?
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ceresWhen the last moon is cast over the last star of morningAnd the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
edited November 2010
Not me.
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Well my next thread was going to be "How do I tactfully propose marriage to this girl putting her scissors through my hair?" but now you all just make me feel uncomfortable about it.
(Kidding.)
P.S. Thanks for the advice, everyone. Most likely, I will wait until I need my next haircut and call ahead.
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Call them and find out.
Yeah, that's kind of how it is.
Also, I think the guy might be the owner's boyfriend or something. Maybe not, but I got that impression. I don't want to insult him. And really any of the women will do, so it's not like I actually want a specific barber, I just specifically don't want him.
I told him. What I told him - specifically - today is not what I got. I didn't complain because I didn't want to be a bitch about it.
It sounds more convenient than it is. They are only open past 6PM on Fridays, and Friday night is "I go out right after work night."
It is physically impossible for me to get home at or before 6PM on any other day.
And they are closed on Sunday.
So the only day I can go is Saturday and he seems to work on Saturdays.
The only reason I was able to go today is that I had to stay home from work anyway and decided to fit a haircut into my helter skelter. Sadly, he was there, and I got stuck with him.
My solution is get the name of either of the gals you like to cut your hair, ask when they work next, and show up then. When you walk in, whether you have to wait or there's an open seat with the guy, ask "Do you mind if <blank> cuts my hair? She does it dang near perfect". Stylists barbers and the like all have their favorite clients. If he makes a big deal out of it, shrug it off. Everyone at that establishment should be mature enough to understand.
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Just walk in, and when your turn comes up, let the next person in line go in front of you, until the stylist you like is available. Stylists of all people will be fine with you saying you like the way a particular person cuts your hair. The entire industry (at least in the UK) is built on the premise that people get their hair cut by someone they like.
If you walk in, and you are the only person there, and he is the only stylist, then just say "no offence, but I really like the way X cuts my hair and I'd prefer to wait for them".
If they act funny about it, then find another salon.
I'm sure it may feel awkward and rude to say this the first time, but I've done this at almost every single salon I've ever used more than once, and every time, the barber/stylist has been absolutely fine with it.
This. At almost any place you can walk it and just say you're waiting for a particular person. It might still hurt the guy's feelings a little bit, but it's part of his job.
The place I get my haircut is a salon/spa and makes appointments, but I've had the owner actually stay open a little later just so I can get my haircut. It helps that I'm a great tipper, but maybe you could speak to them and see if they might be willing to accommodate you.
OTOH, I'd probably say something because he won't improve if he has no feedback saying he needs to. It's not being bitchy or an asshole or even rude. It's just business, you paid for something and you haven't received it.
Also, if they do a bad job, telllll them. Don't sit in a chair after they wax your eyebrows clean off, cringe and say "it looks perfect..". Tell them that they waxed your eyebrows off and can't convey emotion properly anymore.
I'm still upset about this incident.
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I once went into a salon and got a woman who had just had a Very Bad Day, involving horrible gossipy co-workers and something about a gift fund for someone who was retiring or having a baby or something. I wasn't paying too much attention to what turned into a fierce rant, because this woman was angrily waving scissors around awfully close to my face, and it was pretty distracting. Sudden moves or telling an already angry, kind of crazy, and coincidentally somewhat armed woman that she sucked didn't seem an option at the moment, so instead I let her finish, paid the minimum, and got out of there as fast as I could, never looking back.
When I got home and surveyed the damage I saw that not only had she cut my hair far too short, it was actually about two inches shorter on one side than the other. I got it fixed the next day by someone else, and a few months later the store with the crazy lady in it was gone, so all's well that ends well.
You know now the backstory of Alyce's avatar.
pick one of the competent stylists and say 'i'd like to wait for her'
Alyce, you're always adorable.
Drez, any barbershop worth their salt will take appointments. Call up, ask for an appointment with one of the girls and you're golden.
As to other general advice, when I moved I had to ask around for my barber, and in the end I got a great one. Finding a barber is like finding any other skilled tradesman, be it a mechanic, an electrician, or even a white-collar job like a lawyer or a doctor, asking around is key.
Something to think about.
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OP- not sure why you think you'd need to 'suck it up' with the phone call. Do you think they'll recognize your voice? You don't need to tell them who you are until they're about to write your name down for the appointment. Just call. You'll be relieved afterward.
Tell him, "You know this is pretty terrible, I appreciate the effort but I don't like it." and if he asks you to sit down again say, "I'm sorry I would just really like XYZ to cut my hair, thank you though."
Barbers are cutthroat.
They love it when you call ahead and ask for them and they will fight to the death to defend that appointment.
Don't ask me why but I'm paranoid about doing that. I can't think of a way of saying "I want her to cut my hair" that doesn't sound like "I want her to have my children".
Weird I know.
And it's damned entertaining watching them go for the throat with a pair of clippers.
I'd have thought they'd use scissors for the job, nope. It's all clippers.
Actually, "I want her to cut my hair" or "I'd prefer for her to cut my hair" is the way to do it! Surprisingly, hairstylists do not see people wanting them to cut their hair as marriage proposals. Unless they are crazy. And who wants a crazy person cutting their hair?
(Kidding.)
P.S. Thanks for the advice, everyone. Most likely, I will wait until I need my next haircut and call ahead.
"Oh hey buddy, sit on down!" is a slightly sleazy little sales trick.
He should feel bad for using it and you should stop falling for his lame guilt trip.