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Neon Genesis Evangelion
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I posted this in the anime thread, but I'm not sure it will get that much attention as there are already 84ish pages discussing other things, sorry if it's innapropriate for me to post here aswell, just from experience you guys all seem to know a lot about stuff.
I just finished watching the entire series, death:rebirth and the end of eva. I am incredibly confused and feel pretty bad. I was wondering if anyone knew what any of it meant, and why it ended the way it did.
I think I missed so many important things, and I desperately need answers such as:
I know that the angels were humans who took a differant part of evolution, but why did they attack? And what was Rei?
I also read on wikipedia that there are going to be three more movies, is anno going to be writing them or has he already?
Thanks a lot for any help you guys can provide.
I just finished watching the entire series, death:rebirth and the end of eva. I am incredibly confused and feel pretty bad. I was wondering if anyone knew what any of it meant, and why it ended the way it did.
I think I missed so many important things, and I desperately need answers such as:
I know that the angels were humans who took a differant part of evolution, but why did they attack? And what was Rei?
I also read on wikipedia that there are going to be three more movies, is anno going to be writing them or has he already?
Thanks a lot for any help you guys can provide.
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I haven't watched it for some time, but the gist of what I remember is that the Evas somehow contain the soul of their pilot's mother, which is the only way they're able to properly synchronize. Rei is the exception because she's a clone of Shinji's mom(since his dad is a little obsessed), and she was able to synchronize with Unit 0 because it's a copy of Unit 1, which contains the soul of Shinji's mom. That's also why Shinji has a hard-on for her all the time. This show was pretty fucked up.
Especially at the end, yeah.
My advice would be: don't try to figure it out. Accept it as the fucked up metaphor it turned out to be, and remember the good stuff from the series itself.
Escaflowne and Berserk come to mind immediately.
Let 'em eat fucking pineapples!
Mr. Anno
Because the man had problems.
Because they had to return to Adam, even if that meant fucked up shit was going to happen. They thought that Adam was beneath NERV, not Lilith.
A clone of Shinji's mom, to put it plainly. But then a whole bunch of other shit like the subject of a gigantic Oedipal complex, kind of a study that dummy plug system was based off of, I think she was also a way for Gendou to try controlling the events of the Third Impact rather than the committee and, um.
Oh, yeah. Subject of a fucking gigantic Oedipal complex.
Don't know about him writing them, but if I remember correctly they're just re-tellings of the series rather than movies moving the story forward.
Also, now that you've seen Eva you should watch Martian Successor Nadesico and enjoy the delicious parody.
PS forgive me if I spell things wrong because I don't remember the actual spelling.
Well before going into the plot I'll start with a little history.
Before the birth of Shinji the so called "Second impact" occured which wiped out most of the human population and made it so the world didn't have any seasons. It was top secret but this occured because scientists of Zeal (those monolith guys) were doing some experiments on Adam and he exploded. In this explosion was Katsuragi Misato, who was the sole survivor of the explosion. Hence her deep hatred towad the angels, believing it was them who killed her father.
Now fast forward to when Shinji was born.
At this moment Shinji's mom and dad were doing an experiment with Eva to make a "third impact" to make a paradise world. The problem with Eva was that in order to make it move a soul had to be installed. So Shinji's mom Yui volunteered and installed her soul into the Eva. Hence Shinji is the only person to move it because he is the only person which can connect to his mother. This is the same case with Asuka, and Touji where her mother and his sister are installed in the Eva's respectively. Rei on the other hand is a different story. After the "accidental" installation of Yui into Eva, Gendo (shinji's dad) tried to get her out of there and the product of that experiment is Rei, half angel, half human. So in her Eva she installed herself, sounds weird I know.
Now fast forward to where Shinji comes to town and fights the 3rd angel.
Angels are all the same just different evolutaionary paths humans might have taken. Angels are strong because they are one of a kind, and thus can create massive AT fields to protect themselves. Humans have weak AT fields, enough to sustain form, but mulitply and can fight as many instead of one. Shinji beats the third angel because Yui inside the eva detected her sons danger and attacked the third angel. Gendo wanted this to happen because he wanted to meet his wife after the third impact.
Now a bunch of battles happen.
I say a bunch of battles because these battles are cool but not too important to the plot. Well except emotionally ofcourse.
And then the third impact occures.
Which is the merge between adam and lilith. To add All eva series are a copy of Adam.
The true purpose of the third impact is to merge humanity into one so there will be no suffering. ie no individuality.
So up to this point every body turns into LCL which is the blood of lilith.
All angels including humans are made up of this material because they are the daughters, sons of lilith.
And then it ends with Adam and Eve, Shinji and Asuka as the survivors of the ordeal.
Still kind of confused with the ending but this is what I got out of it.
Hope it helps.
It ended the way it did because they ran out of money.
I think this FAQ does a very good job of explaining lots of individual bits and pieces you may be wondering about. http://www.evaotaku.com/html/evafaq.html
But I liked the above post, very succinct.
I'm pretty interested in the Neon Genesis: Angelic Days, which is a retelling of the story, but it seems much lighter, and much more concerned with dating rather than this whole evolution of man. It seems as if it could fit in with the series, as there is a quick scene in ep 26 (i think) which shows an alternate universe that Shinji could decide to create after the Third impact.
1. They guy wrote it after going completely batshit crazy, and the characters represent various mental states he was in while he was crazy and/or in therapy. So when it seems like Shinji is just a crazy kid with father issues who makes no sense, it's because he is.
2. The various bits of Christian mythology were tossed in there to make the whole thing seem weird and mysterious because in Japan, where there aren't a whole lot of Christians per capita, western religion is somewhat esoteric. So if the angels don't make much sense, it's because the writers didn't have a tight grasp on the western concept of an angel in the first place. It's sort of like when we try to figure out what the hell is going on between the dragons of heaven and earth in X:1999.
The TV series covers the abstract and the progression and return to the spiritual at the end of the world. Whereas the movies, where everything is getting all shot up and whatnot, is following the physical destruction of everything (so that there can be a return to the spiritual). So I see the two as running completely in tandem to one another. I see the series as showing the end of human consciousness from the worldly perspective and TV ending is from the individual perspective.
I thought the TV series was especially amazing, the animation was awesome, so abstract and intriguing. Sure there was barely any explosions and all that good stuff, but if you are in a contemplative, soul-searching mood, it is pure medicine. The TV series helped to break me of my own adolescent funk, and has contributed to a personal philosophy I hold to still to this day.
Thanks,
Pylon
p.s. Shinji at the end of the world with with Asuka/Rei/Misato is as literal or abstract as you like. But it is proof that Shinji does have a will to survive, even though he is so frsutrated by life. At the threshold of death, he chooses life, and thus the drama begins again.
Edit: I guess it's crucial to point out that I despised all the characters in Eva with a burning passion, and then the thought-process leading me to call Nadesico an Eva parody makes more sense.
What was the piece named which shinji played on cello? It was the same piece used for the introduction menu in Death & Rebirth, I know it was by Bach, but I can't seem to find the piece in the Eva soundtracks, anyone know?
Just for the record, Berserk doesn't actually end where it does in the anime. The manga has a lot more storyline and where it was going actually makes sense if you happen to read it.