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Berserkis

I just got an E 74 msg a few hours ago.

Turns out I also no longer have a warranty on the lovely little device - which means if I send it in for repairs - it would cost 125$

So Im considering buying a new xbox( the 4gb model is 200$ - I already have a harddrive) but what does this mean for the newly purchased live account, and all those Xbox Arcade game i bought? They gone with the old one too? Or is it all on the hard drive?

How would i hang onto that stuff if i was to buy a new xbox? Anyone know?

mr-razzcocks

Well, your gamer profile will be on your old hard drive if you're keeping it, if not you can use the 'recover your gamertag' option on the new console, you'll still be able to use your old downloads if you're connected to live, and you can do a license transfer on the Live website so you can use your content offline as well. It's pretty straightforward, really.

Berserkis

ah ok great!

Thanks

Spudge

Keep in mind the 360 Slim uses a different HDD enclosure than the original. You can use a transfer cable to move your crap from one HDD to another, or if you're feeling really adventurous you can pull the old HDD out of the enclosure and fit it into the 360 Slim

It doesn't fit perfectly, but it works (from what I read)

LaPuzza

Spudge wrote: »

Keep in mind the 360 Slim uses a different HDD enclosure than the original. You can use a transfer cable to move your crap from one HDD to another, or if you're feeling really adventurous you can pull the old HDD out of the enclosure and fit it into the 360 Slim

It doesn't fit perfectly, but it works (from what I read)

It involves either lowering the drive via a tape-based suspension mechanism or throwing your drive at the connectors.

I'm in the same boat right now, and I'm considering the breakout and reinstall idea, but only after I get everything moved to usb drives.

delphinus

I just jammed my old hdd into the slim and held it there with an eraser. Plays vertically and horizontally, and I dont have a problem with it being moved from friends' house to friends' house. The slim has been playing fine like this since I bought it used from cg (i got it cheap since the guy sold the hdd seperately)

300 bucks for 250gigs? F that.

NailbunnyPD

There is a license migration that can be used once a year to re-associate your content with the new console.

Can the HDD be run off the transfer cable?

mightyjongyo

Pretty sure you can't, it just shows up as a storage device that you can transfer off of. Also, you won't be able to install games if you don't have an HDD of some sort attached (wont install to the internal storage).

Willeth

Berserkis wrote: »

I just got an E 74 msg a few hours ago.

Turns out I also no longer have a warranty on the lovely little device - which means if I send it in for repairs - it would cost 125$

So Im considering buying a new xbox( the 4gb model is 200$ - I already have a harddrive) but what does this mean for the newly purchased live account, and all those Xbox Arcade game i bought? They gone with the old one too? Or is it all on the hard drive?

How would i hang onto that stuff if i was to buy a new xbox? Anyone know?

Hang on. Double-check your warranty is properly dead - for the E74, the warranty is three years from date of purchase with proof of purchase, or three years from date of manufacture if you don't have the receipt.

Your one-year warranty (for all other faults) may have expired, but for the red rings and E74 there's an extension.

As for everything else - keeping all your old content, etc. - I wrote a guide on my website just to answer this because it crops up so often.

Burtletoy

Willeth wrote: »

Berserkis wrote: »

I just got an E 74 msg a few hours ago.

Turns out I also no longer have a warranty on the lovely little device - which means if I send it in for repairs - it would cost 125$

So Im considering buying a new xbox( the 4gb model is 200$ - I already have a harddrive) but what does this mean for the newly purchased live account, and all those Xbox Arcade game i bought? They gone with the old one too? Or is it all on the hard drive?

How would i hang onto that stuff if i was to buy a new xbox? Anyone know?

Hang on. Double-check your warranty is properly dead - for the E74, the warranty is three years from date of purchase with proof of purchase, or three years from date of manufacture if you don't have the receipt.

Your one-year warranty (for all other faults) may have expired, but for the red rings and E74 there's an extension.

As for everything else - keeping all your old content, etc. - I wrote a guide on my website just to answer this because it crops up so often.

My launch box was repaired for free after the warrenty had expired and before they did the 3-year warrenty increase, as well. Don't know if that was something special for launch boxes, but you might as well check.

Berserkis

Hmm I will try to actually call them and see if i can get anywhere. I ended up just going online and registering it, and it had expired.

no receipt....it was definitely like 2-3 years ago.

I would have bitten the bullet for their repair costs if it was reasonable, but what they ask is fucking stupid. I might just open the xbox up myself if things are leaning towards buying a new one - and see if i can fix it

Khildith

This might sound crazy, but it did the trick for me.

I got the red ring error and was out of warranty, and had no real recourse that I could find, so I looked around for how to fix it, turns out that some people have had luck with a crazy course of action that fixed the error.

I honestly have no idea the technical explanation, but sometimes overheating it again can fix whatever broke in the first place. What I did was wrap the entire xbox in a towel with only the rings showing and the cords able to poke out, taped it all together, and started it up.

It would sit at the red ring for a half hour or so, then shut down from overheating.

I would immediately turn it back on and leave it again, and after awhile it would shut down again.

I repeated this a few times, unwrapped it and let it cool for a couple hours, then started it back up and it worked fine again!

This worked for me for several months, until it red ringed again and I ended up replacing it with one that had an HDMI port.

I've heard of some people doing this several times and the problem fixing itself for awhile.

I kept an eye on it while it was wrapped int he towel just to be sure it didn't burst into flames or anything, but I don't think it could ever get close to that temp without refusing to start.

delphinus

the towel trick only works for about a week or a bit. Highly temporary fix.

OnTheLastCastle

The towel trick is garbage. Do you know what you're doing? Intentionally melting the inside of your xbox to fix it having overheated in the first place.

Sounds so scientific and precise, right?! Do not do it.

matt has a problem

OnTheLastCastle wrote: »

The towel trick is garbage. Do you know what you're doing? Intentionally melting the inside of your xbox to fix it having overheated in the first place.

Sounds so scientific and precise, right?! Do not do it.

The original Red Ring errors weren't overheating errors, they were hardware errors, usually caused by the graphics card losing connection with the main board. Overheating it would cause the guts of the machine to flex, sometimes resulting in the connection being made again. There was a batch of PC video cards a while ago where putting them in the oven on 350 or so and leaving them for a few minutes resulted in the same kind of fix.

tl;dr, when it's already broken, it's not like you can break it harder.

Spudge

The issue was no-lead solder. It's brittle, and would crack (resulting in loss of connection) after periods of heat/cold

The towel trick re-melts the solder to a point, allowing it to (possibly) repair connection. This is a poor idea and only increases the chances of other failures

Berserkis

I cant seem to find any good videos on how to fix the e74 problem....anyone ever deal with it personally? If so - what guide, if you needed one, worked?