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Is the USA's War on Drugs a waste of time?

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  • satansfingerssatansfingers Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    No they are not

    Oh if you want to see someone truly stressed out

    Talk to a public defender

    i did some work for a public defender office, they were generally pretty good natured people who were excellent at separating their work from their personal lives and happiness

    it was nice to see

    (except for a couple people who were clearly on their way to heart attack city)

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I want more room in my prisons for murderers and other offenders

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Ubik wrote: »
    its all about learning tests and applying them to facts

    and i have to disagree, i've read some pretty funny pro se filings

    I guess they're funny

    But not ha-ha funny to me that I've seen

    More "holy shit you're fucked" funny

    @satans if they can do that cool

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    My wife's a lawyer and the judges that she works for hate pro se people. The lesson I've learned from her is don't try to fuck around with the courts, just get a lawyer.

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  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    The real money is business consulting.
    I would like to make 5-7k per week please.
    Here is a bunch of stratagems that might save your companies' costs
    Most of which you have already looked at before,
    but hey Corporate hired us to make sure you knew.

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    They hate pro se findings because most of them are fucking incomprehensible nonsense

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  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    also, i am a law student

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I thought you were but I ain't assumin'

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    They seriously go out of their way to make sure that pro se defendants fail just because they're so annoyed by them. And yeah, I've seen some of their "motions" and whelp, they sure are nonsense.

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  • satansfingerssatansfingers Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    i was watching an episode from season 2 of the this american life tv show, and it was about a guy who was basically destroying his life with his obsession for the legal system. he was several years into a bunch of lawsuits he was doing pro se. it was really sad.

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Going out of your way to make them fail is a bit much

    They'll likely do that on their own

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  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Peen wrote: »
    They seriously go out of their way to make sure that pro se defendants fail just because they're so annoyed by them. And yeah, I've seen some of their "motions" and whelp, they sure are nonsense.

    i've seen it both ways

    if you're a jackass and just want to flood the court with papers and stupid nonsense, the judge will not cut you any slack and treat you like an attorney who should know better

    but i've also seen judges (in appellate court, no less) compliment pro se people on their briefs and help them out a lot if the pro se person shows that they are just trying their best and are respectful

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    It's not like they do anything overt, they're just assholes to them and hold them to the strictest procedural rules. You're right though, they do a bang up job of failing.

    Edit: I should say that these judges are senior civil judges, so they're all over 70 and either slightly cracked or just majorly don't give a fuck.

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Ubik wrote: »
    its all about learning tests and applying them to facts

    and i have to disagree, i've read some pretty funny pro se filings

    I guess they're funny

    But not ha-ha funny to me that I've seen

    More "holy shit you're fucked" funny

    @satans if they can do that cool

    when they're written in crayon and the sender's address is Riker's Island

    that's pretty funny

    but also sad

    they ask my why I'm not planning on taking criminal procedure

    and I'm like

    what on earth could possibly compel me to work in the criminal courts

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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Monroe don't you want to be like those guys from Law and Order.

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    i want to be like gibbs on ncis

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  • satansfingerssatansfingers Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    i have never regularly watched a lawyer show

    just cop shows

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Monroe don't you want to be like those guys from Law and Order.

    no way man

    those people are all vampires

    I am not kidding

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  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    Ubik wrote: »
    its all about learning tests and applying them to facts

    and i have to disagree, i've read some pretty funny pro se filings

    I guess they're funny

    But not ha-ha funny to me that I've seen

    More "holy shit you're fucked" funny

    @satans if they can do that cool

    when they're written in crayon and the sender's address is Riker's Island

    that's pretty funny

    but also sad

    they ask my why I'm not planning on taking criminal procedure

    and I'm like

    what on earth could possibly compel me to work in the criminal courts

    i guess i should note that the pro se stuff i have read is all civil matters

    so not really as much at stake as criminal stuff

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    i want to be like gibbs on ncis

    I hate when that show is on because I always turn around when they call the one guy's name.

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Uriel wrote: »
    i want to be like gibbs on ncis

    I hate when that show is on because I always turn around when they call the one guy's name.

    that's very informative

    also leroy jethro may be the best first and middle names ever

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    actually my first ever filing was a pro se suit against my landlord

    sued his tits off, it was a lot of fun

    looking back, the only reason I got away with it is because he tried to represent himself against me

    he actually tried to call in sick to a hearing we were having because he failed to comply with the first court order I secured

    pro tip: don't do that

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I don't know what the one guy's first name is because the always just call him McGee.

    I hate my last name, I make everyone call me by my first.

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Uriel wrote: »
    I don't know what the one guy's first name is because the always just call him McGee.

    I hate my last name, I make everyone call me by my first.

    timothy

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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    NCIS is a shit show.

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I am the Munch

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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    It has an awesome opening though.

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    munch.jpg

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    NCIS is a shit show.

    but for mindless entertainment purposes, i posit that it is in fact vastly superior to any reality tv or any other show regularly on in the day time

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I'm the guy who operates photoshop entirely through text commands.

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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I'm the perky goth who knows everything about technology ever.

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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Apparently omg became an official word.

    That took longer than I thought it would.

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    VI because of John Lennon my grandpa never wanted me to learn the Piano

    Thanks gay people

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    haha John Lennon Jesus

    Probably because his dumb anniversary of him dying

    Elton John damnit

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  • satansfingerssatansfingers Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    piano owns

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    pointing out that the hot goth that plays abby on ncis is like 41

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  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    i kinda wanna start watching ncis: los angeles because ll cool j, but god, ncis is just so bad

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    ncis la is wayyy different than normal ncis

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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    pointing out that the hot goth that plays abby on ncis is like 41

    ....

    Good thing I didn't think she was hot at all but this is sort of creepy.

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  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    ncis la is wayyy different than normal ncis

    like in a good way? less awful humor and awful plots?

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