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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I'm either an idiot or there's some power you get later in the game that you need to use to come back and beat the first levels

    I'm missing two puzzle pieces in the very second level and god damn if I am not totally stumped on how to get at them

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    IrtehmongooseIrtehmongoose Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Vann Diras wrote: »
    i already own braid on 360 and Machinarium but

    what the hell maybe i'll actually finish braid this time

    I never finished Braid either, I should probably do that.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    I'm either an idiot or there's some power you get later in the game that you need to use to come back and beat the first levels

    I'm missing two puzzle pieces in the very second level and god damn if I am not totally stumped on how to get at them

    there is exactly one puzzle that you can't do when you first reach it. It's in the first level, and you get what you need for it in the same level.

    what puzzles are you stuck on?

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited December 2010
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    I'm either an idiot or there's some power you get later in the game that you need to use to come back and beat the first levels

    I'm missing two puzzle pieces in the very second level and god damn if I am not totally stumped on how to get at them

    there's one where you have to ride a cloud for like 45 minutes

    it's stupid

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited December 2010
    BEARD wrote: »
    I had a friend who was like "man, Braid was kinda lame. What was the point?"

    I asked him if he had been reading the story, and he said he skipped all of the books because playing a videogame wasn't about reading. Yeeeeeah.

    hahaha I didn't read any of it either

    mostly because my eyes hate reading stuff on TV. i'll pick up this bundle and go through it again

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    Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    101 wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    finishing braid isn't that hard

    beating it is

    I finished the entire game before finding out about this.

    Like seriously whoa

    What does this mean

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Keith wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    I'm either an idiot or there's some power you get later in the game that you need to use to come back and beat the first levels

    I'm missing two puzzle pieces in the very second level and god damn if I am not totally stumped on how to get at them

    there's one where you have to ride a cloud for like 45 minutes

    it's stupid

    It's actually 2 hours

    you don't really "need" to do it though

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    Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Lord Dave wrote: »
    101 wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    finishing braid isn't that hard

    beating it is

    I finished the entire game before finding out about this.

    Like seriously whoa

    What does this mean

    It's a game within a game.

    BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOW

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    World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    the speed run I think?

    still have never gotten that last achievement

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Lord Dave wrote: »
    101 wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    finishing braid isn't that hard

    beating it is

    I finished the entire game before finding out about this.

    Like seriously whoa

    What does this mean

    I think they're talking about the stars

    if you didn't know, there are I think 5 or 6 hidden stars in the game. Usually you get at them by breaking a puzzle in such a way that you make it onto a secret platform hidden above the top of the screen, at which point it scrolls up to reveal a whole new puzzle. Getting all the stars unlocks an alternate ending.

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    World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    whaaaaaaaaat

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    the speed run I think?

    still have never gotten that last achievement

    fuck the speed run so much

    I feel like I did a good enough job figuring out all these puzzles. Doing them quickly is just an obnoxious chore.

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited December 2010
    I think I got all the stars?

    I don't remember

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    World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    you guys are fucking with us

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    whaaaaaaaaat

    haha yeah

    IIRC the stars are hidden in
    The Cloud Bridge? The room in the first level with the level's portrait

    The third level room where you have to guide the goombas through the three piranha plants

    Fickle Friend in the third level

    The room in the fourth level where you have to let a goomba bounce off of your silhouette so that it's high enough for you to bounce off of

    The room in the fifth level that has the same set-up with the goombas and piranha plants as the third level. Cascade I think?

    Elevator Action in the fifth Level

    Braid in the last level. You can't get this one 'til you have all the others.

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited December 2010
    nope

    just watched the alt. ending and I totally got them

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    World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    doin this tonight

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    'nother fun fact:

    in the epilogue area, if you open one of the books, then get Tim behind a piece of scenery and turn his back to the text, the text changes to a different perspective

    these are actually mini-puzzles in themselves

    the blank books wipe the text from the screen so you have to figure out how to get to an obstructing piece of scenery without touching them

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    doin this tonight

    like keith mentioned

    the cloud bridge one in the first level, you have to get onto an apparently stationary cloud and then let the game sit for about two hours

    just set things up, then walk away or watch TV for a while and come back

    the others are actually interesting and challenging puzzles but that one's just bullshit

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited December 2010
    speaking of indie games when the fuck is Fez coming out

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    Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Never knew about them stars

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    DuxDux A host to DarknessRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Those are a fucking pain in the ass. Couldn't be bothered with them, but I'll probably try getting them eventually.

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    SoaLSoaL fantastic Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I put in a negative number and they gave me money

    is it worth it though

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    The Elevator Action one is also really obnoxious

    it's super finnicky and because it's off-screen you can't tell whether or not you're lined up with the platform properly and it takes like 15-30 minutes of fine adjustments to get it just right

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    Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    don't assemble any puzzles until you've looked up how to get all the stars in Braid

    there's one that you can't get if you've assemble the 1st and 2nd puzzles beforehand, and you'll have to restart

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    don't assemble any puzzles until you've looked up how to get all the stars in Braid

    there's one that you can't get if you've assemble the 1st and 2nd puzzles beforehand, and you'll have to restart

    oh yeah fuck

    forgot about that one

    okay the stars are about 50% fun and cool and 50% fucking bullshit

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    DuxDux A host to DarknessRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    The Elevator Action one is also really obnoxious

    it's super finnicky and because it's off-screen you can't tell whether or not you're lined up with the platform properly and it takes like 15-30 minutes of fine adjustments to get it just right

    I hated the cloud bridge one so much, because I waited a bit too long, and when I came back, I couldn't reach the ledge and had to start all over again. That was just fucking bullshit. And then there's the star puzzle thing in the hub where if you finished one of the puzzles, you couldn't get it.

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    I'm either an idiot or there's some power you get later in the game that you need to use to come back and beat the first levels

    I'm missing two puzzle pieces in the very second level and god damn if I am not totally stumped on how to get at them

    there is exactly one puzzle that you can't do when you first reach it. It's in the first level, and you get what you need for it in the same level.

    what puzzles are you stuck on?

    World 2 (where the fuck is world one) map two: right before the puzzle board, there's a pair of cloud cannons firing at each other and dissipating on a piece of land in the center. Then there's a long plank right before the puzzle, then a plank on the other side. I can't reach the other plank even by jumping on the single goomba-like creature on the first plank. one of the puzzle pieces floats above this board.

    then right above the door, there's another puzzle piece, just out of reach of a jump. There are no creatures to jump on. I do not get it at all, unless I'm missing something. Is there a way to accelerate a jump with the time shifting mechanism?

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    I'm either an idiot or there's some power you get later in the game that you need to use to come back and beat the first levels

    I'm missing two puzzle pieces in the very second level and god damn if I am not totally stumped on how to get at them

    there is exactly one puzzle that you can't do when you first reach it. It's in the first level, and you get what you need for it in the same level.

    what puzzles are you stuck on?

    World 2 (where the fuck is world one) map two: right before the puzzle board, there's a pair of cloud cannons firing at each other and dissipating on a piece of land in the center. Then there's a long plank right before the puzzle, then a plank on the other side. I can't reach the other plank even by jumping on the single goomba-like creature on the first plank. one of the puzzle pieces floats above this board.

    then right above the door, there's another puzzle piece, just out of reach of a jump. There are no creatures to jump on. I do not get it at all, unless I'm missing something. Is there a way to accelerate a jump with the time shifting mechanism?

    world one is the last world

    those are in fact the only pieces that you need something special for!

    hint: you can interact with one of the puzzle pieces you've already collected.

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    Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    I'm either an idiot or there's some power you get later in the game that you need to use to come back and beat the first levels

    I'm missing two puzzle pieces in the very second level and god damn if I am not totally stumped on how to get at them

    there is exactly one puzzle that you can't do when you first reach it. It's in the first level, and you get what you need for it in the same level.

    what puzzles are you stuck on?

    World 2 (where the fuck is world one) map two: right before the puzzle board, there's a pair of cloud cannons firing at each other and dissipating on a piece of land in the center. Then there's a long plank right before the puzzle, then a plank on the other side. I can't reach the other plank even by jumping on the single goomba-like creature on the first plank. one of the puzzle pieces floats above this board.

    then right above the door, there's another puzzle piece, just out of reach of a jump. There are no creatures to jump on. I do not get it at all, unless I'm missing something. Is there a way to accelerate a jump with the time shifting mechanism?

    world one is the last world

    those are in fact the only pieces that you need something special for!

    hint: you can interact with one of the puzzle pieces you've already collected.

    even having already played through most of the game before, i just started again

    and these pieces still kick my ass. i still haven't figured out the one above the door again

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Oh man, at least two games that I've been wanting, cool.

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Vann Diras wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    I'm either an idiot or there's some power you get later in the game that you need to use to come back and beat the first levels

    I'm missing two puzzle pieces in the very second level and god damn if I am not totally stumped on how to get at them

    there is exactly one puzzle that you can't do when you first reach it. It's in the first level, and you get what you need for it in the same level.

    what puzzles are you stuck on?

    World 2 (where the fuck is world one) map two: right before the puzzle board, there's a pair of cloud cannons firing at each other and dissipating on a piece of land in the center. Then there's a long plank right before the puzzle, then a plank on the other side. I can't reach the other plank even by jumping on the single goomba-like creature on the first plank. one of the puzzle pieces floats above this board.

    then right above the door, there's another puzzle piece, just out of reach of a jump. There are no creatures to jump on. I do not get it at all, unless I'm missing something. Is there a way to accelerate a jump with the time shifting mechanism?

    world one is the last world

    those are in fact the only pieces that you need something special for!

    hint: you can interact with one of the puzzle pieces you've already collected.

    even having already played through most of the game before, i just started again

    and these pieces still kick my ass. i still haven't figured out the one above the door again

    it's the same principle as the first one
    don't kill that goomba yet

    there's a few later levels where there's just no room whatsoever for trial and error

    like you must fuck it up and start the level over again to understand what you're supposed to be doing

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    more explicit hint:
    The table depicted in one of the pieces can be used as a platform

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    Vann Diras wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    I'm either an idiot or there's some power you get later in the game that you need to use to come back and beat the first levels

    I'm missing two puzzle pieces in the very second level and god damn if I am not totally stumped on how to get at them

    there is exactly one puzzle that you can't do when you first reach it. It's in the first level, and you get what you need for it in the same level.

    what puzzles are you stuck on?

    World 2 (where the fuck is world one) map two: right before the puzzle board, there's a pair of cloud cannons firing at each other and dissipating on a piece of land in the center. Then there's a long plank right before the puzzle, then a plank on the other side. I can't reach the other plank even by jumping on the single goomba-like creature on the first plank. one of the puzzle pieces floats above this board.

    then right above the door, there's another puzzle piece, just out of reach of a jump. There are no creatures to jump on. I do not get it at all, unless I'm missing something. Is there a way to accelerate a jump with the time shifting mechanism?

    world one is the last world

    those are in fact the only pieces that you need something special for!

    hint: you can interact with one of the puzzle pieces you've already collected.

    even having already played through most of the game before, i just started again

    and these pieces still kick my ass. i still haven't figured out the one above the door again

    it's the same principle as the first one
    don't kill that goomba yet

    there's a few later levels where there's just no room whatsoever for trial and error

    like you must fuck it up and start the level over again to understand what you're supposed to be doing

    The only one I remember being totally irreversible is

    well

    Irreversible.

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    Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    Vann Diras wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    I'm either an idiot or there's some power you get later in the game that you need to use to come back and beat the first levels

    I'm missing two puzzle pieces in the very second level and god damn if I am not totally stumped on how to get at them

    there is exactly one puzzle that you can't do when you first reach it. It's in the first level, and you get what you need for it in the same level.

    what puzzles are you stuck on?

    World 2 (where the fuck is world one) map two: right before the puzzle board, there's a pair of cloud cannons firing at each other and dissipating on a piece of land in the center. Then there's a long plank right before the puzzle, then a plank on the other side. I can't reach the other plank even by jumping on the single goomba-like creature on the first plank. one of the puzzle pieces floats above this board.

    then right above the door, there's another puzzle piece, just out of reach of a jump. There are no creatures to jump on. I do not get it at all, unless I'm missing something. Is there a way to accelerate a jump with the time shifting mechanism?

    world one is the last world

    those are in fact the only pieces that you need something special for!

    hint: you can interact with one of the puzzle pieces you've already collected.

    even having already played through most of the game before, i just started again

    and these pieces still kick my ass. i still haven't figured out the one above the door again

    it's the same principle as the first one
    don't kill that goomba yet

    there's a few later levels where there's just no room whatsoever for trial and error

    like you must fuck it up and start the level over again to understand what you're supposed to be doing

    The only one I remember being totally irreversible is

    well

    Irreversible.

    i remember that one

    what a bitch

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    there are a few where you have to use a time-resistant lever to move a time-resistant platform

    if you fuck it up, you basically have to quit the level and start over

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    DuxDux A host to DarknessRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    there are a few where you have to use a time-resistant lever to move a time-resistant platform

    if you fuck it up, you basically have to quit the level and start over

    Couldn't you, like, leave that particular room, or part, or whatever, then return, and it would have reset? Like go back to the previous puzzle.

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    Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Dux wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    there are a few where you have to use a time-resistant lever to move a time-resistant platform

    if you fuck it up, you basically have to quit the level and start over

    Couldn't you, like, leave that particular room, or part, or whatever, then return, and it would have reset? Like go back to the previous puzzle.

    yes

    i know this because i am on that puzzle right now

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    101101 Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I am loving Machinarium.

    Big smile on my face whenever I complete a puzzle, my only complaint is that the mouse can go a bit funny at times.

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I will probably drop five bucks on this but only because I already have Braid and Machinarium.

    Might put them on my mac so I have some games on my mac.

    The Machinarium soundtrack is amazing by the way.

    #pipe on
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