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first of all, this isn't meant to be a thread about which is the better system...just which is the best system FOR ME.
See, I don't actually own a next gen system. Being jobless does that to you. T_T But looking down the road, I realized that I'm not sure which of the big three I'd actually go for. Probably a PS3 or Xbox, but it's a real toss up between the two. I used to choose a system based on the games that were out for it, but there's such a significant overlap in games that it's really hard to apply this standard.
In the previous generation, I was quite thoroughly a PS2 girl. I loves me some rpgs. Plus shadow of the colossus, okami, Jak and Daxter, etc.
So...well...you see my dilemma. There's a couple of exclusive games in both systems that I have an interest in, but most of them are out for both.
Multi-platform games are generally better on the 360. Not always and not always significantly, but if you're happy with the exclusives on either one, the 360 is probably the better bet.
So...well...you see my dilemma. There's a couple of exclusive games in both systems that I have an interest in, but most of them are out for both.
As Pancake said above, generally, GENERALLY the 360 version/editions of multi-platform games perform better, so it really comes down to controller preference and all that Blu-Ray nonsense.
On the other hand, if you don't already have a Bluray player, and you have a nice TV, a PS3 makes for a very fine entertainment box. Games, Blurays, Netflix, all sorts of stuff, and you also don't have to pay a monthly fee to get the most out of your system.
Bluray is AWESOME!!!
360 Controller vs PS3 Controller (for me) 360=Shooter, PS3 = All Else
Move vs Kinect! ( I have Move, but haven't used it since it's a Christmas Present) No Kinect in my Future.
Exclusives? LBP is the best PS3 Exclusive to me, L4D is the Best 360 (FOR ME....FUCK HALO)
Live vs PSN. Better vs Free
Arcade vs PSN Store: Awesome Arcade games vs PS Classics.
Honestly, there are too many factors that come down to personal choice to give you any real help. My PS3 is used more thanks to BR. I might actually play more games on my 360, but just by a hair.
If I had to chose between my next gen systems I'd go for my PS3. If you're a SOTC fan you've got the remakes coming out (soon...maybe) and the next Team Ico game (The Last Guardian), free online which admittedly isn't as well developed as the 360.
Look at the exclusives, tally up which you'd like to play and go for that system. Whilst multi-platform games tend to be better on the 360 the difference, normally, isn't really noticeable.
If you get a 360, and the Kinect turns into something really awesome, you can get it. If not, you can just rock out with the existing game library.
If you get a PS3, and the Kinect turns into something really awesome, you have to get a 360 as well as it. At this point, I'd be hard pressed not to endorse the 360 just for the potential of the Kinect alone
If I had to chose between my next gen systems I'd go for my PS3. If you're a SOTC fan you've got the remakes coming out (soon...maybe) and the next Team Ico game (The Last Guardian), free online which admittedly isn't as well developed as the 360.
Look at the exclusives, tally up which you'd like to play and go for that system. Whilst multi-platform games tend to be better on the 360 the difference, normally, isn't really noticeable.
If you get a 360, and the Kinect turns into something really awesome, you can get it. If not, you can just rock out with the existing game library.
If you get a PS3, and the Kinect turns into something really awesome, you have to get a 360 as well as it. At this point, I'd be hard pressed not to endorse the 360 just for the potential of the Kinect alone
If her previous tastes involved a lot of RPGs and platformers and such, the Kinect's not going to be that big of a deal. If they couldn't figure out a way to put out good, non-gimmicky games for the Wii that pushed the system and really capitalized on its strengths, I honestly don't feel like they're gonna have that much success doing it with the Kinect, especially if they're selling it as a casual, family device.
Multi-platform games are generally better on the 360. Not always and not always significantly, but if you're happy with the exclusives on either one, the 360 is probably the better bet.
Confirming this is true (I own both). I would recommend you let exclusives steer you in either direction, as that is important primarily.
From a personal perspective, I find the Xbox 360 controller to be superior to that of the Dualshock 3, with the added bonus of not having stupid features implemented for Sixaxis (shake the controller like someone going into shock to charge up attack/shake off an enemy/make Ayane's boobs bounce/make Snake's butt bounce).
Someone has already pointed this out, no doubt, but none of the PS3 slims (and probably most old PS3s, by this point) play PS2 games on disc. Nada. If you want BC (since you said you were a PS2 fan), you're out of luck barring you find an early model PS3 (with hardware/software BC, which could set you back a lot) or staying on your old PS2 (probably a saner choice, so long as you're not like me and Sony doesn't hate you).
All Playstation 3s are pretty darn good blu-ray players (with the exception of video interface sucking, as with the PS2, but some people actually like navigating with a controller). The Xbox 360 has a better DVD interface, as well as better media streaming (more options, and they work better), if you're interested in that. Repeating, though, nada blu ray on the Xbox 360 (if that matters to you).
Most of what is important has already been said, apart from the classic 'get whatever console most of your friends have' to play with or against online, or borrow games from as you establish your own library.
If you like to support smaller indie developers and enjoy playing little gems which can be unearthed for as little as 60p, you need XBLIG on the 360. There are over 1,500 games on that service alone now; I spend huge amounts of my gaming time there.
Apart from that, make a list of which games you want to play the most. Whichever platform has the most - buy that console. You can't go wrong with either at this stage.
I switched from PS2 to 360 this generation but admittedly I'm not an RPG fan. I found the controller to be the most comfortable I've ever used and while the retail titles are pretty close between the two systems I prefer the downloadable games on the 360. I don't think you can truly go wrong at this point though.
Like the PS2 last gen, the DS is the go-to RPG system this gen. Followed by the PSP and, oddly enough, the 360. Wii is dead last for quality RPGs.
Yeah, don't automatically assume that the current gen systems have exactly the same things the previous gen systems had. Japanese development has heavily shifted to handhelds, especially for games that don't actually need the power (and development budget) of a bigger console.
Personally I prefer the PS3 because it has yet to die on me even once, which is more than I can say about my xbox before I gave up on it. But I hear they fixed that. Xbox has much better online service, but it's only worth it if you want to play with friends. Party chat isn't really useful if you're alone. Xbox Live just works better than PSN. It's prettier, faster, and with much less time sent staring at a loading screen. But PSN lets you play online for free, so if you only have a passing interest in online PS3 has the edge there.
The Live Arcade gets better exclusives in my opinion, but as stated before PS3 gets PS1 games (not just the ones you can download, PS1 discs still work perfectly fine in current systems). The exclusives I'm not sure of. I know that Mass Effect is getting ported and I think L4D is. Xbox generally gets third party games first, too, but occasionally getting it later just means you get a slightly better port. Like Oblivion looking a little better on Playstation, or the Joker stuff for free in Batman.
Kinect and move are both the type of thing I will never use, so I can't say much about them. As for the controllers, trust me when I say that the Dualshock works just as good as the 360's controller. I will say that getting used to it took a while when I first bought the system, but when it stopped feeling awkward I'd say I like it better than the 360's.
There just aren't many RPGs this generation of consoles. Most of them are on handhelds, but you can find decent examples of the genre on either system. Lost Odyssey on 360 was good, and Demon's Souls is amazing on PS3. Both consoles get some third party games, like Fallout or Dragon Age.
My bias is probably fairly obvious, but really either system is fine. I would recommend the PS3 over the xbox if you're in it for single player and the 360 if you plan to play with friends.
If I'd taken that approach, I would have stopped playing PS2 games about five years ago, when I only had two games.
Though I'd be the first to say I'm not very happy with having had to buy 3 PS2s in 4 years.
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mrt144King of the NumbernamesRegistered Userregular
edited December 2010
I just got a PS3 for using as a media player, storage, and football game player. The Blu Ray and PSN is what sold it for me, mostly because I'm a primarily a PC gamer.
Now that Mass Effect has gone cross platform, I really don't see any reason to buy a 360 over a PS3. That said, I still like my 360 more than my PS3. I would suggest a PS3 because it has WAY better exclusives now.
The best exclusives for 360 are on XBLA... so you would want to weigh whether or not you want XBLA games or the awesome exclusives from PS3.
I might wait until the 3DS comes out honestly, as long as you're looking down the road. Compare it to whatever else you're interested then and go with what looks best.
As far as systems though, the PS3 looks to be the best for RPGs right now.
PS3 controllers aren't for people with large hands. How large are your hands?
Seeing as the OP is a female I doubt large hands are a problem.
In my opinion...
If you just want to play single player games or play with random people online then get a PS3. I feel that the PS3 largely has better retail exclusives and has better media features. (blu-ray, vudu, $0 netflix, etc)
otherwise.....
360 has better online features and has a bigger PA online community. It also has far more downloadable games with the Live arcade and indie market.
To me the controllers are largely equal. (I'm generally not picky about this) The 360 is a bit more comfortable but has a bad d-pad. (I have yet to get the brand new style controller which is said to have an improved d-pad)
I’ll tell you what happens in Demon’s Souls when you die. You come back as a ghost with your health capped at half. And when you keep on dying, the alignment of the world turns black and the enemies get harder. That’s right, when you fail in this game, it gets harder. Why? Because fuck you is why.
If I had to chose between my next gen systems I'd go for my PS3. If you're a SOTC fan you've got the remakes coming out (soon...maybe) and the next Team Ico game (The Last Guardian), free online which admittedly isn't as well developed as the 360.
Look at the exclusives, tally up which you'd like to play and go for that system. Whilst multi-platform games tend to be better on the 360 the difference, normally, isn't really noticeable.
This seems like the response that makes the most sense thus far.
Like the PS2 last gen, the DS is the go-to RPG system this gen. Followed by the PSP and, oddly enough, the 360. Wii is dead last for quality RPGs.
I agree with the bolded part, but I don't see what great exclusive RPGs the 360 would have. Personally I haven't played a console specific RPG that I thought was awesome this gen, with the exception of Valkyria Chronicles.
edit: I take it back. I also loved Fire Emblem on the Wii.
PS3 controllers aren't for people with large hands. How large are your hands?
Seeing as the OP is a female I doubt large hands are a problem.
I would like to add that my hands are immense slabs of meat. My fiancee loves comparing her hands to mine - hers are about 1/3 the size of my hands. If I held my hand flat and laid a Dualshock 3 across it, my hand is roughly another half as big, length and width. I have zero problems holding a Dualshock 3 comfortably.
PS3 controllers aren't for people with large hands. How large are your hands?
Seeing as the OP is a female I doubt large hands are a problem.
I would like to add that my hands are immense slabs of meat. My fiancee loves comparing her hands to mine - hers are about 1/3 the size of my hands. If I held my hand flat and laid a Dualshock 3 across it, my hand is roughly another half as big, length and width. I have zero problems holding a Dualshock 3 comfortably.
And I have very small hands and I find holding the Dualshock to be incredibly uncomfortable and think it's a terribly designed controller. So your mileage may vary.
PS3 controllers aren't for people with large hands. How large are your hands?
Seeing as the OP is a female I doubt large hands are a problem.
I would like to add that my hands are immense slabs of meat. My fiancee loves comparing her hands to mine - hers are about 1/3 the size of my hands. If I held my hand flat and laid a Dualshock 3 across it, my hand is roughly another half as big, length and width. I have zero problems holding a Dualshock 3 comfortably.
And I have very small hands and I find holding the Dualshock to be incredibly uncomfortable and think it's a terribly designed controller. So your mileage may vary.
I have medium sized hands, and also dislike the DS3...not for size reasons (my particular annoyance are the grips).
I still don't understand how the ps3 shoulder buttons came to be. Who the hell at Sony held it in their hands and said, yes, these mushy chunks of plastic are much better than the old ps2 buttons.
Multiplatform games are perfectly playable on both- yes, even Bayonetta (post-patch).
Go by whichever has the exclusives that appeal to you.
On RPGs: 360 has Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon and Tales of Vesperia. PS3 has Disgaea 3, Valkyria Chronicles and Demon's Souls. Both have Resonance of Fate, Dragon Age and FFXIII (and, soon, Mass Effect 2).
If RPGs are all you care about, though, get a DS. It's where most of them migrated to.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
edited December 2010
PS3 also has Disgaea 4, Ar Tonelico 3, and Neptunia on the way, so it'll likely be the JRPG contender before long.
Demon's Souls is the best RPG on the system, though it's pretty much a WRPG; Japanese developed or not.
Western games, 360 pretty much has that on lock. As shmups go, 360 is oddly enough way ahead of the PS3, since it has Deathsmiles and a few downloadable ones on the arcade.
Tales of Vesperia as well, but I already mentioned that.
Unless you can read Japanese, anyway.
Since you've said it, reading Japanese increases the value of the PS3. Many of the Japan only games are extremely good (428 and Tales Of... series and Umineko come to mind), but the online PS1 store has all kinds of rare games. Langrisser, Silver Case, SMT remakes, Gunparade, Front Mission 1-3, Ore no Shikabane wo Koete Yuke etc.
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As Pancake said above, generally, GENERALLY the 360 version/editions of multi-platform games perform better, so it really comes down to controller preference and all that Blu-Ray nonsense.
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360 Controller vs PS3 Controller (for me) 360=Shooter, PS3 = All Else
Move vs Kinect! ( I have Move, but haven't used it since it's a Christmas Present) No Kinect in my Future.
Exclusives? LBP is the best PS3 Exclusive to me, L4D is the Best 360 (FOR ME....FUCK HALO)
Live vs PSN. Better vs Free
Arcade vs PSN Store: Awesome Arcade games vs PS Classics.
Honestly, there are too many factors that come down to personal choice to give you any real help. My PS3 is used more thanks to BR. I might actually play more games on my 360, but just by a hair.
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Look at the exclusives, tally up which you'd like to play and go for that system. Whilst multi-platform games tend to be better on the 360 the difference, normally, isn't really noticeable.
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If you get a PS3, and the Kinect turns into something really awesome, you have to get a 360 as well as it. At this point, I'd be hard pressed not to endorse the 360 just for the potential of the Kinect alone
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If her previous tastes involved a lot of RPGs and platformers and such, the Kinect's not going to be that big of a deal. If they couldn't figure out a way to put out good, non-gimmicky games for the Wii that pushed the system and really capitalized on its strengths, I honestly don't feel like they're gonna have that much success doing it with the Kinect, especially if they're selling it as a casual, family device.
Confirming this is true (I own both). I would recommend you let exclusives steer you in either direction, as that is important primarily.
From a personal perspective, I find the Xbox 360 controller to be superior to that of the Dualshock 3, with the added bonus of not having stupid features implemented for Sixaxis (shake the controller like someone going into shock to charge up attack/shake off an enemy/make Ayane's boobs bounce/make Snake's butt bounce).
Someone has already pointed this out, no doubt, but none of the PS3 slims (and probably most old PS3s, by this point) play PS2 games on disc. Nada. If you want BC (since you said you were a PS2 fan), you're out of luck barring you find an early model PS3 (with hardware/software BC, which could set you back a lot) or staying on your old PS2 (probably a saner choice, so long as you're not like me and Sony doesn't hate you).
All Playstation 3s are pretty darn good blu-ray players (with the exception of video interface sucking, as with the PS2, but some people actually like navigating with a controller). The Xbox 360 has a better DVD interface, as well as better media streaming (more options, and they work better), if you're interested in that. Repeating, though, nada blu ray on the Xbox 360 (if that matters to you).
(One game, I know, but it's one of the generally well-received non-handheld this-gen JRPGs on this forum.)
If you like to support smaller indie developers and enjoy playing little gems which can be unearthed for as little as 60p, you need XBLIG on the 360. There are over 1,500 games on that service alone now; I spend huge amounts of my gaming time there.
Apart from that, make a list of which games you want to play the most. Whichever platform has the most - buy that console. You can't go wrong with either at this stage.
Although personally? 360
Yeah, don't automatically assume that the current gen systems have exactly the same things the previous gen systems had. Japanese development has heavily shifted to handhelds, especially for games that don't actually need the power (and development budget) of a bigger console.
Xbox 360 it is then.
Only reason for the PS3 is if you absolutely have to have Killzone, Uncharted, Jak and Daxter, etc. There are reasonable substitutions on the 360.
The Live Arcade gets better exclusives in my opinion, but as stated before PS3 gets PS1 games (not just the ones you can download, PS1 discs still work perfectly fine in current systems). The exclusives I'm not sure of. I know that Mass Effect is getting ported and I think L4D is. Xbox generally gets third party games first, too, but occasionally getting it later just means you get a slightly better port. Like Oblivion looking a little better on Playstation, or the Joker stuff for free in Batman.
Kinect and move are both the type of thing I will never use, so I can't say much about them. As for the controllers, trust me when I say that the Dualshock works just as good as the 360's controller. I will say that getting used to it took a while when I first bought the system, but when it stopped feeling awkward I'd say I like it better than the 360's.
There just aren't many RPGs this generation of consoles. Most of them are on handhelds, but you can find decent examples of the genre on either system. Lost Odyssey on 360 was good, and Demon's Souls is amazing on PS3. Both consoles get some third party games, like Fallout or Dragon Age.
My bias is probably fairly obvious, but really either system is fine. I would recommend the PS3 over the xbox if you're in it for single player and the 360 if you plan to play with friends.
Though I'd be the first to say I'm not very happy with having had to buy 3 PS2s in 4 years.
The best exclusives for 360 are on XBLA... so you would want to weigh whether or not you want XBLA games or the awesome exclusives from PS3.
Plus yeah, BluRay player.
As far as systems though, the PS3 looks to be the best for RPGs right now.
Seeing as the OP is a female I doubt large hands are a problem.
In my opinion...
If you just want to play single player games or play with random people online then get a PS3. I feel that the PS3 largely has better retail exclusives and has better media features. (blu-ray, vudu, $0 netflix, etc)
otherwise.....
360 has better online features and has a bigger PA online community. It also has far more downloadable games with the Live arcade and indie market.
To me the controllers are largely equal. (I'm generally not picky about this) The 360 is a bit more comfortable but has a bad d-pad. (I have yet to get the brand new style controller which is said to have an improved d-pad)
Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
This seems like the response that makes the most sense thus far.
I agree with the bolded part, but I don't see what great exclusive RPGs the 360 would have. Personally I haven't played a console specific RPG that I thought was awesome this gen, with the exception of Valkyria Chronicles.
edit: I take it back. I also loved Fire Emblem on the Wii.
But honestly, at this point, you'll be happy with either console.
Unless you can read Japanese, anyway.
I would like to add that my hands are immense slabs of meat. My fiancee loves comparing her hands to mine - hers are about 1/3 the size of my hands. If I held my hand flat and laid a Dualshock 3 across it, my hand is roughly another half as big, length and width. I have zero problems holding a Dualshock 3 comfortably.
And I have very small hands and I find holding the Dualshock to be incredibly uncomfortable and think it's a terribly designed controller. So your mileage may vary.
I have medium sized hands, and also dislike the DS3...not for size reasons (my particular annoyance are the grips).
Yeah, I'm sorry, Gamecube, but you've been topped.
If I could put the D-Pad from the Classic Controller on there yes, it'd be perfect.
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Go by whichever has the exclusives that appeal to you.
On RPGs: 360 has Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon and Tales of Vesperia. PS3 has Disgaea 3, Valkyria Chronicles and Demon's Souls. Both have Resonance of Fate, Dragon Age and FFXIII (and, soon, Mass Effect 2).
If RPGs are all you care about, though, get a DS. It's where most of them migrated to.
Demon's Souls is the best RPG on the system, though it's pretty much a WRPG; Japanese developed or not.
Western games, 360 pretty much has that on lock. As shmups go, 360 is oddly enough way ahead of the PS3, since it has Deathsmiles and a few downloadable ones on the arcade.
Since you've said it, reading Japanese increases the value of the PS3. Many of the Japan only games are extremely good (428 and Tales Of... series and Umineko come to mind), but the online PS1 store has all kinds of rare games. Langrisser, Silver Case, SMT remakes, Gunparade, Front Mission 1-3, Ore no Shikabane wo Koete Yuke etc.
If you really want them, I'm pretty sure you can just set up a Japanese PSN account using a fake address. And yes, region free has been so good to me.