all this sivir advice is terrible. just get a warmongs to atmas, then a bloodthirster and whatever you want. I start off with a philo stone too, keeps you in a lane quite nicely and it gives you gold, wtf why wouldn't you get one. sotd and banshees or another bloodthirster, the world is your oyster price is no concern with sivir.
also, while the blade bounces aren't effected by armor pen, the first hit is, and determines the damage of the other bounces, so I wouldn't say armor pen reds are bad, thats what I run, with mana per yellows, mr blues, quints whatever the fuck you want.
my sivir is pretty amazing and the best so you should just take this build and use it, only this build.
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buying a warmog's and a philostone is a great way to make sure you do dick all for damage for the first 25 minutes of the match
This.
P.S. You can be a force in team fights pre-20 minutes if you don't build warmogs and Atmas. I've gone toe to toe with Warmogs + Atmas Sivir and beat them all the time. I used to build it too, but it just takes too long to ramp up, especially since Q scales with damage. And even end game you are going to do less damage.
Edit: You are wrong about how the bounces work. We can test this if you like. But additional armor pen on the first bounce DOES NOT effect the damage on subsequent bounces. This is why a lot of people like Stark's on Sivir, because the aura makes sure that your ricochet bounces get the bonus armor pen effect.
buying a warmog's and a philostone is a great way to make sure you do dick all for damage for the first 25 minutes of the match
This.
P.S. You can be a force in team fights pre-20 minutes if you don't build warmogs and Atmas. I've gone toe to toe with Warmogs + Atmas Sivir and beat them all the time. I used to build it too, but it just takes too long to ramp up, especially since Q scales with damage. And even end game you are going to do less damage.
Edit: You are wrong about how the bounces work. We can test this if you like. But additional armor pen on the first bounce DOES NOT effect the damage on subsequent bounces. This is why a lot of people like Stark's on Sivir, because the aura makes sure that your ricochet bounces get the bonus armor pen effect.
pacstar you're the coolest
you make me wanna play sivir
edit: also can anyone give me advice for Nunu items?
buying a warmog's and a philostone is a great way to make sure you do dick all for damage for the first 25 minutes of the match
This.
P.S. You can be a force in team fights pre-20 minutes if you don't build warmogs and Atmas. I've gone toe to toe with Warmogs + Atmas Sivir and beat them all the time. I used to build it too, but it just takes too long to ramp up, especially since Q scales with damage. And even end game you are going to do less damage.
Edit: You are wrong about how the bounces work. We can test this if you like. But additional armor pen on the first bounce DOES NOT effect the damage on subsequent bounces. This is why a lot of people like Stark's on Sivir, because the aura makes sure that your ricochet bounces get the bonus armor pen effect.
Edit Edit: If I'm wrong I'll eat humble pies
that doesn't seem to make sense and seems like they would be going out of there way to make it work like that.
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"If a cherry pie filled cape is wrong, I don't want to be right.
I'm dead serious."
That's the way it is, ricochet damage is based on BASE damage without modifiers (aside from increased damage from items). So even Sword of Divine procs don't bounce on the ricochets. This is why I run damage marks. Also, I never said armor pen is bad, I might even switch back to it. I just like damage marks right now.
Also, the reason they did that is because otherwise she's OHHHHHHHH PEEEEE
Why does Caitlyn hold her rifle like a damn pistol?
I mean FUCK Riot, can you do ANYTHING right?
But she's the long arm of the law, not arms. Duh.
(It does look really retarded. E: Won't keep me from playing her though.)
E: actually, there's a few in-game pics where she's using both arms. Looks like the one-armed rifle stance is probably just for one or more skills. We'll see though.
I am not sure...but having anivia and shaco on a team might be a bad idea. I was about 11-0 on Shaco by 21 minutes, had my infinity edge, wriggles and zerk greaves...we continued to rape them but the game just lasted too long and Shaco became useless and we lost. What the hell happened? Also how does Shaco keep dragon control from a Warwick? Seems impossible since he can easily kill me and gets it first.
Also I still can't start at golems even though everyone talks shit to me in every game I play shaco.
How exactly do you swap characters after the draft pick? Are there restrictions to who can trade with who?
Other than both of you needing to own both champions, no restrictions. You can trade multiple times too.
It's just a little button next to each champion. You click it and it pops up a dialog on the other player's screen requesting that they trade champions with you.
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It's funny, I even rage when my team is obviously winning but my team mates are stupid fucks and make awful mistakes over and over again and are winning simply because the other team happens to be worse. sometimes I just want to sabotage said games and start feeding because I don't like giving bads wins, it;s not about winning, it;s about how you win!
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"If a cherry pie filled cape is wrong, I don't want to be right.
I'm dead serious."
It's funny, I even rage when my team is obviously winning but my team mates are stupid fucks and make awful mistakes over and over again and are winning simply because the other team happens to be worse. sometimes I just want to sabotage said games and start feeding because I don't like giving bads wins, it;s not about winning, it;s about how you win!
I lost against a team of bads today. Very annoying. Doubly so as EVERY FUCKING FIGHT they focused me. 2.6K HP, 100 armor, 150 MR, didn't fucking matter to them.
The rest of the DPS on the team had issues, so we lost. QQQQQQQQ.
Jesus , this game went on FOREVER. We had the advantage but could never win because both poppy and Olaf ignored us and continued to fuck around and let the enemy come back time and time again. Me , Ashe and Zilean were the only ones trying to actually win the game. I still cant believe I hit 759 ap as Karthus , Jesus.
Fucking olaf insisted on 1 vs 5 the enemy team as much as he fucking could , the guy took the whole berserker thing way too literal
What the fuck, a guy on our team rage quit and we lost...it was like 17-24 kills. The other team didn't have a fucking tank, there is no way we could have lose be he fucking quit. I need out of this ELO so bad but I keep losing to dumbass team mates.
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Wouldn't a Rally Vincent skin ironically fit Miss Fortune better, anyway?
(Though both are actually bounty hunters, one of them once gave a lecture about why firing two guns at once is highly ineffective)
Black hair, tan skin, and a leather jacket. Possibly sunglasses. Yup that's totally a licensed character. Hey look at that nunu in a trash can riding a blue yeti. Oh my gosh that beta rammus skin has a green spiked shell.
Black hair, tan skin, and a leather jacket. Possibly sunglasses. Yup that's totally a licensed character. Hey look at that nunu in a trash can riding a blue yeti. Oh my gosh that beta rammus skin has a green spiked shell.
Then I guess they have a "no animes" policy then
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Black hair, tan skin, and a leather jacket. Possibly sunglasses. Yup that's totally a licensed character. Hey look at that nunu in a trash can riding a blue yeti. Oh my gosh that beta rammus skin has a green spiked shell.
Then I guess they have a "no animes" policy then
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Black hair, tan skin, and a leather jacket. Possibly sunglasses. Yup that's totally a licensed character. Hey look at that nunu in a trash can riding a blue yeti. Oh my gosh that beta rammus skin has a green spiked shell.
Then I guess they have a "no animes" policy then
Ezreal would like to have a word with you, sir.
He didn't say a no cat girls policy
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It fucking sucks and Riot are fucking retarded for making it the way they did. The person with the lowest ELO picks last, LAST! So now all these dumbasses who have hundreds of ranked games played but can't get past 1300 ELO get to pick before me, things like Jungle Jax, I call Jungle Shaco and someone else will lock in a jungle with their first pick.
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And on the flipside, sometimes you're the highest Elo on a team full of people who can't get past 1100.
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Edit: I am not thinking of the right skin
also, while the blade bounces aren't effected by armor pen, the first hit is, and determines the damage of the other bounces, so I wouldn't say armor pen reds are bad, thats what I run, with mana per yellows, mr blues, quints whatever the fuck you want.
my sivir is pretty amazing and the best so you should just take this build and use it, only this build.
I'm dead serious."
I'm dead serious."
This.
P.S. You can be a force in team fights pre-20 minutes if you don't build warmogs and Atmas. I've gone toe to toe with Warmogs + Atmas Sivir and beat them all the time. I used to build it too, but it just takes too long to ramp up, especially since Q scales with damage. And even end game you are going to do less damage.
Edit: You are wrong about how the bounces work. We can test this if you like. But additional armor pen on the first bounce DOES NOT effect the damage on subsequent bounces. This is why a lot of people like Stark's on Sivir, because the aura makes sure that your ricochet bounces get the bonus armor pen effect.
Edit Edit: If I'm wrong I'll eat humble pies
pacstar you're the coolest
you make me wanna play sivir
edit: also can anyone give me advice for Nunu items?
edit: jungle Nunu
that doesn't seem to make sense and seems like they would be going out of there way to make it work like that.
I'm dead serious."
Also, the reason they did that is because otherwise she's OHHHHHHHH PEEEEE
I mean FUCK Riot, can you do ANYTHING right?
She is just that good.
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But she's the long arm of the law, not arms. Duh.
(It does look really retarded. E: Won't keep me from playing her though.)
E: actually, there's a few in-game pics where she's using both arms. Looks like the one-armed rifle stance is probably just for one or more skills. We'll see though.
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Character design makes me cringe.
huge
people keep saying she is a sniper character, she's a sheriff not a sniper.
Also I still can't start at golems even though everyone talks shit to me in every game I play shaco.
Other than both of you needing to own both champions, no restrictions. You can trade multiple times too.
It's just a little button next to each champion. You click it and it pops up a dialog on the other player's screen requesting that they trade champions with you.
she looks awful
I mean really, all they needed to do was have her crouch for her Q shot and shit and it would be way more badass.
I'm dead serious."
I lost against a team of bads today. Very annoying. Doubly so as EVERY FUCKING FIGHT they focused me. 2.6K HP, 100 armor, 150 MR, didn't fucking matter to them.
The rest of the DPS on the team had issues, so we lost. QQQQQQQQ.
There's a joke there...I can sense it.
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Jesus , this game went on FOREVER. We had the advantage but could never win because both poppy and Olaf ignored us and continued to fuck around and let the enemy come back time and time again. Me , Ashe and Zilean were the only ones trying to actually win the game. I still cant believe I hit 759 ap as Karthus , Jesus.
Fucking olaf insisted on 1 vs 5 the enemy team as much as he fucking could , the guy took the whole berserker thing way too literal
Whooooo.
This is an anime reference few people are likely to get
Also they'd get sued if they used licensed characters
(Though both are actually bounty hunters, one of them once gave a lecture about why firing two guns at once is highly ineffective)
(Although I rarely get to play Rammus in Ranked lately.)
Then I guess they have a "no animes" policy then
He didn't say a no cat girls policy
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Edit: Also had 2 different games vs a Eve with two different outcomes. What a difference Wards and Oracles make.
1205 ELO not after four straight losses.
I keep getting fucking retards on my team who don't ever buy wards, a Jax who jungled and died at level 2 and feeders. I had to lane a rammus.
Basically I have to be the Jungler so it doesn't get fucked up.
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