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PC - Normal Temp?

PrimePrime UKRegistered User regular
edited December 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
My PC has shut down twice in two days now. Not a normal shut down or a reset but just as if someone has cut the power.

Now temperature is the normal suspect so ive done a few tests and saved some readings, luckly I use two monitors so I ran temp monitoring software on one screen and loaded a game on the other.

Hardware

CPU - AMD Phenom 2 X4 940
GPU - Geforce GTX 285

IDLE

CPU - rises and falls between 50-60C
GPU - sits at a little below 50C

Running Game (DOW2) - Played until temp stopped climbing (5-10min)

CPU - peaked at just under 80C
GPU - climbed to 85C and sat there


So what do you think, too high? Im not sure what acceptable temps are tbh. If it matters the unit is around 2 1/2 - 3 years old.

edit: No overclocking at all.

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Your CPU is cooking itself pretty bad. The maximum temperature threshold for that CPU is 62C. At idle you're already damn near maxed out.

    1.) Blow your case out with some canned air.
    2.) Check for dead fans - If this is a new problem then this has a very good chance of being what's causing it.
    3.) Contemplate flipping some fans around and attempting to improve air flow.

    Options that involve money in case the first three don't work
    4.) Get an aftermarket heat sink.
    5.) Get a new case.

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  • PrimePrime UKRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    righto, fans checked ok, got 2 large case fans and the CPU fan all running ok (checked RPM not just if they are spinning). Next stop is i'll try replacing heat sink and heat sink compound. Any other comments welcome.

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  • PrimePrime UKRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Ok stripped CPU heat sink and fan, unclogged any dust build up and applied new heat sink compound and CPU is sitting at 50-52C under gaming load. Which is much nicer.

    So my second question now is will I have done any series damage to the core?

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    If your computer stops acting up then you're just fine. If it keeps acting squirrelly then yeah, you might have a bit of a problem. You didn't continue to blindly hammer your CPU with those temps so chances are you'll be OK. Just be sure to keep an eye on your temps from now on. I like to use CPUID Hardware Monitor because I can leave it on in the background and it'll measure current temps and display the minimums and maximum temperatures your CPU has hit. It also measures a few other handy things like some different voltages and your graphic's card temps.

    http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

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  • PrimePrime UKRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Ok thats a nicer GUI then the one ive been using, thanks.

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  • splashsplash Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I've got a few comments to add although they are more generalities than specifics.

    Video cards have a much wider range of power consumption and heat, so there is only normal for a specific card. I'd look at a site that contains a review of your specific card. Even among the same type of card the cooling can be different by the brand and manufacturer, so as specific as possible is good.

    This review seemed to indicate that your peak GPU temperature is normal (although there are cards out there that can run much cooler as you probably know). This review for the same card but GigaByte brand has slightly but significantly lower temps (about 5-10C) than what you have.

    I'm not sure where to find information about CPU temperatures but yes that did seem very high. That was a tremendous difference going from 80C to about 50C.

    I also am under the impression that the motherboard temperature is important too. I think it's less likely to have that problem though unless something is seriously wrong with the air flow in the system or something.

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    splash wrote: »
    I'm not sure where to find information about CPU temperatures but yes that did seem very high.

    A quick search about any specific CPU will pull the temperature threshold specs up. Overclocking related sites are fantastic resources about various CPUs and their specific quirks. Even if you're not going to overclock your CPU, it's still a good idea to check the OC related websites because you'll learn a lot about the ins and outs of your CPU.
    I also am under the impression that the motherboard temperature is important too. I think it's less likely to have that problem though unless something is seriously wrong with the air flow in the system or something.
    Mobo temps aren't a bad thing to keep track of, but in all honesty, unless you've overclocked the shit out of your rig then you really don't have to worry too much about them. You'd have to do something really stupid with your case airflow in order to cause problems with your mobo and if a part is crapping out and is overheating from old age, then it's not like you can really do anything besides replace the mobo anyway.

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  • splashsplash Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    splash wrote: »
    I'm not sure where to find information about CPU temperatures but yes that did seem very high.

    A quick search about any specific CPU will pull the temperature threshold specs up. Overclocking related sites are fantastic resources about various CPUs and their specific quirks. Even if you're not going to overclock your CPU, it's still a good idea to check the OC related websites because you'll learn a lot about the ins and outs of your CPU.

    Okay, easier than I would have thought. I had a hard time, maybe I should use a search term like temperature or temperature threshold instead of heat for CPUs. When searching for GPU reviews tend to use the term heat more. From what I've noticed anyways.

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