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Living and working in America for 6 months, but which City?

pogo mudderpogo mudder Registered User regular
edited January 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
Me and a friend are going to be living and working in the US for 6 months (starting this June), but we have no idea which city we would like to stay and work in. We're taking any suggestions, so if you could name a place you think is cool and why then that would help give us some ideas. I think we're leaning more towards East Coast rather than West and i think the Mid West is out of the question.

What are you thoughts H/A?

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Me and a friend are going to be living and working in the US for 6 months (starting this June), but we have no idea which city we would like to stay and work in. We're taking any suggestions, so if you could name a place you think is cool and why then that would help give us some ideas. I think we're leaning more towards East Coast rather than West and i think the Mid West is out of the question.

    What are you thoughts H/A?

    Can you expand a little? Do you already have work? Will you be looking for it? What's your living expense budget like?

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    This might sound pretentious or whatever but how the hell are you planning to do this? Jobs aren't exactly falling off trees at the moment, much less so for temp work.

    Do you have something lined up that lets you work anywhere? I mean, just make sure you've thought it through.

    Anyway, I lived outside of Washington DC for 2 years and loved it. It's an expensive part of the country though. I also lived in MA for quite some time and also loved it.

    It really comes down to what kind of weather you want to experience or outdoor activities you want to do.

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  • ConfuseousPrimeConfuseousPrime Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    My choices, based on your criteria would be:

    New York - sort of the quintessential American City. It's got everything, somewhere. Downside is that it's expensive to live there.

    Philadelphia -- Has a great art museum, and has a good bit of history. Within day-trip distance of NYC too, so you can hit NYC if you really like. The disadvantage is that the mass transit isn't as good (from when I lived there) and it's not quite as busy as New York.

    Miami - Has a different vibe than the cities listed above, but it's great for nightlife and beaches. It's a bit smaller than New York, which might appeal to you.

    This is just based on places that I've lived within your criteria. I personally wouldn't mind Atlanta either, but I've never lived there. Also, if you are opposed to the Midwest you might also be opposed to the traditional South.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    San Francisco, New York City, Washington D.C., Seattle and Miami are, in my mind, the ultimate cultural meccas representing various points of the U.S. How you plan to get a job in any of those places is a curiosity of mine as well, and I'd love to hear it if you have access to some unique way of traveling and doing this.

    I have left Southern cities off this list. Southern culture is certainly worth visiting and becoming aware of, but there is not a single southern city that in any way compares to those other cities.

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  • RadicalTurnipRadicalTurnip Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Boston is the "youngest" city in the US (their average age), and has a lot going for it. Yeah, you need to expound on what you mean more.

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  • wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Do you want nice weather? Can you handle a snowy winter? Humidity? What kind of work are you looking to do? Do you want to be right inside a big city, in a suburb, or in a rural area? Do you like enormous NY sized big cities or smaller but still lively big cities like Portland? Are you going to mainly stay planted in one area or do you want lots of opportunities for weekend drives to explore other parts of the country? Do you like nature, hiking, etc.? Do you care what kind of personality types are the general norm for the area?

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  • DeathwingDeathwing Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Just to expand a little on what Iceman mentioned about DC and surroundings being expensive - my wife and I currently pay $1300/month (and we lucked out and got utilities included) for our 1-bedroom+den condo. The 1-bedroom in a high-rise we had back in 2005 was $1059/month+utilities for a 6-month lease, probably more now. New York and San Francisco at least are probably comparable, if not more.

    You need to give us more info on what your budget is like and how you plan to find work before we can really give you reasonable suggestions - you could easily be looking at several thousand dollars just in rent, depending on where you're planning to stay.

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  • Rogueknight-Rogueknight- Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    My advice would also revolve around your travel arrangements - Remember that while you can fly from many US Airports - which will allow you the easiest access home? Does San Francisco Airport go straight to your home, or will you have to bus to Los Angeles or a busier hub? It will factor on your cost estimates - the nearer you are to a large hub like NYC or LA you are the greater choice you have.

    In addition, I take it you have done your homework as to what visa you need to apply for in order to work in the US?

    For example, as a British Citizen I can travel to the US as part of the Visa Waiver program. However if I take employment during that visit I am in breach and can be deported home instantly (Or at least was last time I travelled, this was 5 years back)

    If I want to go and work abroad I have to fill in a different visa application and visit the U.S. Embassy to have this confirmed before I can travel.

    And even the Visa Waiver program has new features that need to be adhered to since I travelled.

    Apologies if you have this all in hand, I thought i'd mention it however as your first post didn't state one way or the other and it could be an easy way to get caught out.

    I'd recommend having a thorough search of your countries foreign office travel advice website (For example for me it would be www.fco.gov.uk) and then a search of the US websites dealing with travel to get a lot of up to date information on that subject.

    To end on a positive though - Way to go guys and I hope you have a fantastic trip.

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  • truck-a-saurastruck-a-sauras Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Boston is the "youngest" city in the US (their average age), and has a lot going for it. Yeah, you need to expound on what you mean more.

    bet it means whether college is in session or not as the population of Boston does something silly like quadruple when school is going on. That is due to there being something around 70 colleges in the city.

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  • pogo mudderpogo mudder Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    It's like a 6 month student programme thing, Visa's, cost of rent, availability of jobs etc are all taken care of and not an issue, at the moment i'm looking at a form with every major city in the US on it and i have to tick a box.

    Boston sounds interesting. I do like the idea of New York but is its size a bit of a problem? will i get lost all the time and have trouble travelling around it?

    I'm also quite interested in what the night life of these cities is going to be like. I heard that Washington DC can be a bit a drab in that respect (but i could be misinformed). The last time i visited America i was like 8 so i'm not sure really sure what the night life is like at all really. Do they have pubs?

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  • twmjrtwmjr Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    It's like a 6 month student programme thing, Visa's, cost of rent, availability of jobs etc are all taken care of and not an issue, at the moment i'm looking at a form with every major city in the US on it and i have to tick a box.

    Boston sounds interesting. I do like the idea of New York but is its size a bit of a problem? will i get lost all the time and have trouble travelling around it?

    I'm also quite interested in what the night life of these cities is going to be like. I heard that Washington DC can be a bit a drab in that respect (but i could be misinformed). The last time i visited America i was like 8 so i'm not sure really sure what the night life is like at all really. Do they have pubs?

    I'm not a pub person myself, but just from walking around in NYC I'm quite certain you'll be able to find something to your liking in the city.

    It's pretty hard to get lost in NYC once you get the general idea of the place. It's basically just a giant grid. The public transportation system is pretty solid and can get you close enough to just about anywhere you need to go. It's not something I'd worry about too much.

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    It's like a 6 month student programme thing, Visa's, cost of rent, availability of jobs etc are all taken care of and not an issue, at the moment i'm looking at a form with every major city in the US on it and i have to tick a box.

    Boston sounds interesting. I do like the idea of New York but is its size a bit of a problem? will i get lost all the time and have trouble travelling around it?

    I'm also quite interested in what the night life of these cities is going to be like. I heard that Washington DC can be a bit a drab in that respect (but i could be misinformed). The last time i visited America i was like 8 so i'm not sure really sure what the night life is like at all really. Do they have pubs?

    If you can't find something to do in DC at all hours of the day/night you're doing something very very wrong. That being said, it's NOT as large as NYC population wise ( I think ) but still pretty amazing.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Deathwing wrote: »
    Just to expand a little on what Iceman mentioned about DC and surroundings being expensive - my wife and I currently pay $1300/month (and we lucked out and got utilities included) for our 1-bedroom+den condo. The 1-bedroom in a high-rise we had back in 2005 was $1059/month+utilities for a 6-month lease, probably more now. New York and San Francisco at least are probably comparable, if not more.

    You need to give us more info on what your budget is like and how you plan to find work before we can really give you reasonable suggestions - you could easily be looking at several thousand dollars just in rent, depending on where you're planning to stay.

    I hate you and your cheap rent.

    DC is not a boring city by any stretch. It isn't NYC or Vegas, but it's still got a great night life.

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  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    It's like a 6 month student programme thing, Visa's, cost of rent, availability of jobs etc are all taken care of and not an issue, at the moment i'm looking at a form with every major city in the US on it and i have to tick a box.

    Boston sounds interesting. I do like the idea of New York but is its size a bit of a problem? will i get lost all the time and have trouble travelling around it?

    I'm also quite interested in what the night life of these cities is going to be like. I heard that Washington DC can be a bit a drab in that respect (but i could be misinformed). The last time i visited America i was like 8 so i'm not sure really sure what the night life is like at all really. Do they have pubs?

    If you can't find something to do in DC at all hours of the day/night you're doing something very very wrong. That being said, it's NOT as large as NYC population wise ( I think ) but still pretty amazing.

    No, not a single pub in a metro area of 5,000,000. The issue with DC is that it is always pretty douchey and will get even douchier with a republican house. Wading through democratic congressional aides and lobbyists was annoying, but at least they were better looking, more interesting and more female than their counterparts across the aisle. Bars close at 1:30 or 2, in contrast to NYC, where bars close at 4 AM or never. DC is a dense, walkable city, probably the most "european" of american cities. Lots of nice parks, and everything is zoned low so you're not oppressed by skyscrapers and the buildings are generally old in the core of NW.

    DC Food is good, plenty of free museums, biking trails, etc.. NYC is just a whole nother order of magnitude. It's obviously far more urban and you have to go further to escape. Drinks in manhattan are going to run you twice what they will in adams morgan or wherever. Food is better, especially with more options at the high end of things. NYC has a clear edge in music, clubbing and partying in general. DC is lots of bars and little else.
    Rent in DC is going to be a lot more affordable though i'm not sure that's an issue for you.

    If you want east coast, you'd want to decide between DC and NYC. I would sooner do San Francisco over Boston, though.

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  • oldsakoldsak Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    New York.

    Sure many of the cities mentioned have their own unique charm or whatever, but nothing compares to New York.

    Don't worry, you won't get lost. Google maps gives you directions by subway now.

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  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Fuck it, New York City man. Really. It is the best. Never boredom. Best foods from all around the world. Some of the best foods in the country. Always shows to see that are cheap. A ton of new music being made these days seems to be coming out of the city or Brooklyn. Tons of bars and restaurants are open till 4AM. Public transport is 24/7.

    I'd put SF as a second perhaps... but NYC.

    Well, assuming the money and job thing is taken care of.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    kaliyama wrote: »
    It's like a 6 month student programme thing, Visa's, cost of rent, availability of jobs etc are all taken care of and not an issue, at the moment i'm looking at a form with every major city in the US on it and i have to tick a box.

    Boston sounds interesting. I do like the idea of New York but is its size a bit of a problem? will i get lost all the time and have trouble travelling around it?

    I'm also quite interested in what the night life of these cities is going to be like. I heard that Washington DC can be a bit a drab in that respect (but i could be misinformed). The last time i visited America i was like 8 so i'm not sure really sure what the night life is like at all really. Do they have pubs?

    If you can't find something to do in DC at all hours of the day/night you're doing something very very wrong. That being said, it's NOT as large as NYC population wise ( I think ) but still pretty amazing.

    No, not a single pub in a metro area of 5,000,000. The issue with DC is that it is always pretty douchey and will get even douchier with a republican house. Wading through democratic congressional aides and lobbyists was annoying, but at least they were better looking, more interesting and more female than their counterparts across the aisle. Bars close at 1:30 or 2, in contrast to NYC, where bars close at 4 AM or never. DC is a dense, walkable city, probably the most "european" of american cities. Lots of nice parks, and everything is zoned low so you're not oppressed by skyscrapers and the buildings are generally old in the core of NW.

    DC Food is good, plenty of free museums, biking trails, etc.. NYC is just a whole nother order of magnitude. It's obviously far more urban and you have to go further to escape. Drinks in manhattan are going to run you twice what they will in adams morgan or wherever. Food is better, especially with more options at the high end of things. NYC has a clear edge in music, clubbing and partying in general. DC is lots of bars and little else.
    Rent in DC is going to be a lot more affordable though i'm not sure that's an issue for you.

    If you want east coast, you'd want to decide between DC and NYC. I would sooner do San Francisco over Boston, though.

    This is completely true. Our "dance clubs" barely qualify under any meaning of the words.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Yeah, NYC was the first place I've been that completely lived up to the hype. That city is absolutely amazing.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    DC used to have good clubs, but they've all been bulldozed, chased out, or turned into generic Top 40 snoozefests.

    Anyway, for 6 months? New York.

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    New York if you want a "CITY", Seattle, Portland (either, really) or SF if you want to do outdoorsy things.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    The downside to some place like NYC or LA is that your incidental expenses are going to be through the roof. I'd suggest SF, Portland, or Seattle.

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  • Pure DinPure Din Boston-areaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I dunno if this would be something you'd be interested in... but if you're starting in June you could look for summer camps such as iD Tech or others that operate out of college campuses in places you'd be interested in living, and work there for the first two months or so. I used to work summer camps, and most camps are interested in hiring people from other countries to make their staff more diverse. Then you'd have your food and a place to live taken care of for the first two months as well, and end up with about $2000-3000 at the end to travel around a bit before having to find another job.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    As part of the Tourism Board (not really), I have to throw out Chicago as a good choice.

    Smaller than NY, but an incredible variety of things to do/eat/see. Public transit within the city and surrounding neighborhoods is good but outside that, non-existent.

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  • DemerdarDemerdar Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    It's like a 6 month student programme thing, Visa's, cost of rent, availability of jobs etc are all taken care of and not an issue, at the moment i'm looking at a form with every major city in the US on it and i have to tick a box.

    Boston sounds interesting. I do like the idea of New York but is its size a bit of a problem? will i get lost all the time and have trouble travelling around it?

    I'm also quite interested in what the night life of these cities is going to be like. I heard that Washington DC can be a bit a drab in that respect (but i could be misinformed). The last time i visited America i was like 8 so i'm not sure really sure what the night life is like at all really. Do they have pubs?

    If I were you I'd go to Chicago. That place is crawling with history and is pretty much awesome all around.

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  • BlochWaveBlochWave Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Having never actually lived in any of these more famous cities being tossed around (I'm assuming Dallas and Houston aren't options!) but having visited some and knowing people who have lived in places, I throw my vote in for San Francisco. I know a lot of people who have lived there, I enjoyed visiting there, and I know several immigrants who got their start there.

    I have a friend originally from Tampa who went to MIT and it sounds like he enjoyed the Boston area, but he hasn't particularly keen on going back to visit or seeking job opportunities there. For whatever that's worth.

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  • GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Boston is a nice town but it really depends on what time of year you're there. Winter can be rough.

    I know I care more about outdoors activities than most people but you might look into a city like Boulder or Denver. Flagstaff is a pretty cool town too.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Stay the figgity fuck away from Baltimore, that's all I've got to say.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Nowhere in Florida because there are no jobs in Florida


    and really there no extensively vacant unskilled labor positions anywhere in this country, much less ones that will deal with potential red tape involved in hiring non-citizens and if thats your plan then prepare to starve

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  • DemerdarDemerdar Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Gafoto wrote: »
    Boston is a nice town but it really depends on what time of year you're there. Winter can be rough.

    I know I care more about outdoors activities than most people but you might look into a city like Boulder or Denver. Flagstaff is a pretty cool town too.

    Having lived in all of those places, I would have to second this post. Flagstaff is kinda small, but I lived there for 5 years and really enjoyed it :^:. Great atmosphere.

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  • DaemonionDaemonion Mountain Man USARegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Gafoto wrote: »
    I know I care more about outdoors activities than most people but you might look into a city like Boulder or Denver. Flagstaff is a pretty cool town too.
    OP: come visit if you like being outside!

    Otherwise, if you want to stay in a city (not venture out into surrounding mountains and what not), I'd take NYC or Chicago over Denver any day. As others have said, if living expenses/etc are taken care of, and if you are particularly fond of amazing food, go to NYC.

    The nice thing about NYC is you can also visit Boston, DC, Philadelphia, etc on long weekends. San Francisco, though, is a nice alternative.

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  • RadicalTurnipRadicalTurnip Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Actually, I was going to reccomend Chicago as well, I love that city when I visit, but you said E Coast, so I just went with Boston. I'm seconding Chicago. SF is pretty cool too. If you want the full-fledged "America" experience, though, you probably can't beat NYC...but yeah, be ready to pay (note, I've never actually been...I keep wanting to go, though).

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  • Modern ManModern Man Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I'm assuming you won't have access to a car, right?

    In that case, you need to limit yourself to cities with decent public transportation. That comes down to NYC, DC, Chicago at the top, with Boston and Seattle and a few other places in the second tier. Most American cities have very few public transit options.

    Also, depending on the time of year you'll be here, give weather some thought. Winters in NYC, Boston and Chicago are really cold by European standards. On the flipside, summers in NYC and DC are pretty awful.

    A lot of people are suggesting NYC, but even if you have housing taken care of, you're going to have to be prepared for really high cost of living. Though, DC isn't much better.

    NYC, DC and Boston are all full of young people. Someone upthread posted about how DC is a little weird because of all the Capitol Hill staffers everywhere, but that's really a pretty small part of the city these days. We have a number of universities, a large international community because of the embassies and international agencies and a number of other industries that attract young people (high tech, consulting, the military).

    If you can afford it, I would probably suggest NYC, with DC a close second. Boston is okay, but I don't think it compares to the other two.

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  • pogo mudderpogo mudder Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Hey guys, thanks for all the input. I think I'm gonna go for NYC. I was quite interested in Boston, but since it's easy to visit from New York then this seems like a safe bet.

    Cheers!

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  • Modern ManModern Man Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Hey guys, thanks for all the input. I think I'm gonna go for NYC. I was quite interested in Boston, but since it's easy to visit from New York then this seems like a safe bet.

    Cheers!
    Probably a good call. All of the cities in the NE corridor between Boston and DC are at most a 4 hour train or bus ride away from NYC.

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  • DaemonionDaemonion Mountain Man USARegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Have fun, OP!

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Hey guys, thanks for all the input. I think I'm gonna go for NYC. I was quite interested in Boston, but since it's easy to visit from New York then this seems like a safe bet.

    Cheers!

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    NYC is a good safe choice. It does have the bonus of being within a train ride to Boston, so there is that. Enjoy!

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Yeah, if you're gonna spend time in one city in the US, NYC is really it.

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