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  • Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2011
    Those are some of the most well thought out and generous DRM restrictions that I have seen.

    Too bad it will be just as easy to download the game off a torrent and bypass all that as it will be to buy off of steam.

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2011
    Good thing its just as easy NOT to.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    That having to check in every few days of offline play thing sounds a bit annoying. Making me reconsider canceling my impulse preorder and waiting for a steam deal

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Don't you have to be able to connect to the internet to actually get the game off of Impulse or Steam?

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Pancake wrote: »
    Don't you have to be able to connect to the internet to actually get the game off of Impulse or Steam?

    Yeah, but the whole reason I got it off impulse (other than the fact that it was the only place that didn't have that ridiculous price hike) was that you only need to use it to install the games on impulse, after that, you never need to load impulse.

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  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I still think internet checks are the worst kind of DRM.

    It's not going to stop me from buying the game. It's just so ubiquitous that when the bombs drop and we're all living in fallout shelters, I'm going to be pretty pissed that I can't play my copies of Dragon Age 2 and Assassin's Creed 2 because there's no high-speed internet infrastructure left on the planet.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I still think internet checks are the worst kind of DRM.

    It's not going to stop me from buying the game. It's just so ubiquitous that when the bombs drop and we're all living in fallout shelters, I'm going to be pretty pissed that I can't play my copies of Dragon Age 2 and Assassin's Creed 2 because there's no high-speed internet infrastructure left on the planet.
    What about sunset/EA gone/20years from now?
    There are sunset plans in place for all our titles. Each one can be different, but most common solution is that the online requirement would be patched out.

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  • SpaffySpaffy Fuck the Zero Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    To the people that say DA2 has worse graphics than DA1: Are you high?

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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Blackjack wrote: »
    I still think internet checks are the worst kind of DRM.

    It's not going to stop me from buying the game. It's just so ubiquitous that when the bombs drop and we're all living in fallout shelters, I'm going to be pretty pissed that I can't play my copies of Dragon Age 2 and Assassin's Creed 2 because there's no high-speed internet infrastructure left on the planet.
    What about sunset/EA gone/20years from now?
    There are sunset plans in place for all our titles. Each one can be different, but most common solution is that the online requirement would be patched out.

    It being patched out is about as likely as it being needed, I'd say. It's nice they say that and maybe even really mean it, but when the company goes bust we'll see who shells out to do it.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Spaffy wrote: »
    To the people that say DA2 has worse graphics than DA1: Are you high?

    The ugliness of DAO is overrated. Even though there are bad textures, the cinematic direction doesn't focus on them like ME2 and it's insistence on having the NPC civilian clothes with textures so small you can see individual pixels taking up the entire screen.

    And the AA actually more or less works.

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  • AntithesisAntithesis Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Spoit wrote: »
    Spaffy wrote: »
    To the people that say DA2 has worse graphics than DA1: Are you high?

    The ugliness of DAO is overrated. Even though there are bad textures, the cinematic direction doesn't focus on them like ME2 and it's insistence on having the NPC civilian clothes with textures so small you can see individual pixels taking up the entire screen.

    And the AA actually more or less works.

    This is the thread of a certain repute.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Spoit wrote: »
    Spaffy wrote: »
    To the people that say DA2 has worse graphics than DA1: Are you high?

    The ugliness of DAO is overrated. Even though there are bad textures, the cinematic direction doesn't focus on them like ME2 and it's insistence on having the NPC civilian clothes with textures so small you can see individual pixels taking up the entire screen.

    And the AA actually more or less works.
    That's fine and all, but DA2 is still clearly better looking than DAO with the possible exception of the early screenshots.

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  • CherrnCherrn Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Spoit wrote: »
    Spaffy wrote: »
    To the people that say DA2 has worse graphics than DA1: Are you high?

    The ugliness of DAO is overrated. Even though there are bad textures, the cinematic direction doesn't focus on them like ME2 and it's insistence on having the NPC civilian clothes with textures so small you can see individual pixels taking up the entire screen.

    And the AA actually more or less works.

    I've spent the past two weeks replaying DA 1 and Awakening, and I do think it's a straight up hideous game. The art design is lacking, most environments are small and blocky, and the character models are atrocious (especially the hair).

    That said, it does have some nice animation, and the dungeon architecture does look great for the most part - Orzammar and the frost ruins in particular.

    I still don't think we've seen enough of DA 2 to judge whether or not it looks better. But going by that one video that actually shows gameplay, it looks like the effects and shading are unfinished, the UI looks like butt that has been shit out of an ass and the animation is really erratic and janky.

    It all depends on how good the final game looks in motion on the highest available settings. We'll just have to wait and see.

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  • Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2011
    Playing on the PC with all the mods the graphics really look great, I mean it isn't some whimsical fantasy world but it does a much better job of feeling gritty with all the mods. Not perfect but much better than the generic.

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  • TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I've been replaying DAO on PC with full settings, but no mods lately and I think it looks good.

    I'm not sure if it's because of my new vid card or because my memory has exaggerated how bad it was on my first playthrough.

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  • Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2011
    It really isn't bad it just isn't the typical brightly colored fantasy that every expected, it is the Gears of War of fantasy.

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  • ZarathustraEckZarathustraEck Ubermensch now with stripes!Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I'll echo Turambar. I'm playing DAO again on the PC and it looks just fine. Granted, this is with a heavyweight gaming rig and all the setting cranked to full at 1920x1200.

    Side note: I preordered DA2 for the PC. I can't see buying this for the console and forgoing mod opportunities.

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  • Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2011
    I am actually not pre ordering this game, I am going to wait for a sale.

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  • NovembersChopinNovembersChopin Las VegasRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    FYI, the game is back down to a "normal" price on Amazon, atm. $49.99 (PC)

    I have it on preorder. Hopefully, the demo doesn't make me change my mind.

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  • CaptainNemoCaptainNemo Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I think the big problem with DA was that everyone was comparing it ME2, which was pants shittingly gorgeous.

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  • NovembersChopinNovembersChopin Las VegasRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Cherrn wrote: »

    the UI looks like butt that has been shit out of an ass and the animation is really erratic and janky.

    Haha Yeah, the UI looks like a WoW UI mod from all the videos I've seen. I hope they clean
    that up for release. I like the animations though, I think their spells and abilities look
    pretty good so far.

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  • Torso BoyTorso Boy Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I'm not sure I'll be able to play this right away since school gets pretty intense around the release date, but I'm paying full price and preordering because I feel I should have paid more than $20 for ME and $40 for ME2. We'll call it a perceived Bioware deficit payment.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Cherrn wrote: »

    the UI looks like butt that has been shit out of an ass and the animation is really erratic and janky.

    Haha Yeah, the UI looks like a WoW UI mod from all the videos I've seen. I hope they clean
    that up for release. I like the animations though, I think their spells and abilities look
    pretty good so far.

    Why does it need cleaning up, exactly? It's pretty simple and extremely easy to read. And it's minimalistic and uncluttered.

    I mean, granted, they could have used my WAR UI mod as a model and it would have been way better, but that's life, you know?

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Playing on the PC with all the mods the graphics really look great

    Yeah...it still looks hideous in consoles. I know, NOT the platform but I think it still stands. DAO is quite ugly IMHO.

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  • Foolish ChaosFoolish Chaos Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    On PC at least, even with no mods, I thought Origins looked pretty great.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Parts of DAO look good. And the game looks quite good, for the most part, zoomed out as far as you can. Almost like the areas were made for you to see them from there.

    But there are plenty of extremely muddy textures that look straight out of 1998 and a lot of the areas have some really awful jaggy looking geometry. The lighting also sometimes does some odd things, but that's not unique to DAO.

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  • NovembersChopinNovembersChopin Las VegasRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Pancake wrote: »

    Why does it need cleaning up, exactly? It's pretty simple and extremely easy to read. And it's minimalistic and uncluttered.

    I mean, granted, they could have used my WAR UI mod as a model and it would have been way better, but that's life, you know?

    I would like it cleaned up because it clutters the whole screen.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I'm not really seeing this "whole screen cluttered up" thing.
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    Is that really cluttered up?

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  • LeoniusLeonius Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I just read the DRM list for the game, and assuming that's true, it's very very good news. I hope publishers are getting a bit less afraid of piracy on PC and realizing they can put games on sale on steam and make better bank than full price at retail outlets.

    I may buy this game after all.

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  • MongerMonger I got the ham stink. Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Pancake wrote: »
    I'm not really seeing this "whole screen cluttered up" thing.
    I don't get it, either. There's less screen space devoted to HUD than the first game, and the icons are about 247% more concise.

    The stylization is still a little weird, I guess. But really. It looks completely usable.

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  • EvangirEvangir Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Pancake wrote: »
    I'm not really seeing this "whole screen cluttered up" thing.
    dragon-age-2-mac-3-screenshot.jpg

    Is that really cluttered up?

    That is obviously about fifty times more cluttered than DA:O. Plus, the icons don't look fantasy-ish enough. Also, I can see pixels everywhere.

    Worst game ever.

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  • MongerMonger I got the ham stink. Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I remember that one time we had a non-sarcastic thread.

    That was a good time.

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  • CherrnCherrn Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    It's not more cluttered than DA: O, but it is very inelegantly designed. I get what they were going for, but it doesn't actually look like it conveys any proper info; it's just a bunch of glaring bars and icons filling the screen. It might be a nitpicky thing to say, but I probably wouldn't be complaining if it didn't look so garish.

    Either way, looks like we'll finally be seeing the full thing in action next friday:
    Watch Live Gameplay of Dragon Age 2 February 11th

    On Friday, February 11th at 11am PST, we'll have the Lead Designer of Dragon Age 2, Mike Laidlaw, showing live gameplay and taking questions. Now is your chance to be heard before the game releases March 8th on Xbox 360, Playstation 2, and PC. And you may even win some prizes.

    Dragon Age 2 is the epic sequel to the 2009 Game of the Year from the critically acclaimed makers of Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 2. You are one of the few who escaped the destruction of your home. Now, forced to fight for survival in an ever-changing world, you must gather the deadliest of allies, amass fame and fortune, and seal your place in history.

    Learn more about Dragon Age 2 at the Official Website.

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  • finnithfinnith ... TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I think it's funny that the only topic of discussion in this thread basically comes down to DA1 vs DA2. Without that we'd have nothing.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Even though I dislike the UI in general, the bars and minimap are a lot more informative than DAO's
    finnith wrote: »
    I think it's funny that the only topic of discussion in this thread basically comes down to DA1 vs DA2. Without that we'd have nothing.

    Except that apparently half the people here apparently actively hate DAO, as opposed to just not likeing it as much, like in a certain other thread that is having a 1 v 2 fight

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Spoit wrote: »
    Even though I dislike the UI in general, the bars and minimap are a lot more informative than DAO's
    finnith wrote: »
    I think it's funny that the only topic of discussion in this thread basically comes down to DA1 vs DA2. Without that we'd have nothing.

    Except that apparently half the people here apparently actively hate DAO, as opposed to just not likeing it as much, like in a certain other thread that is having a 1 v 2 fight

    Even the icons are more informative, even if you can't tell exactly what the ability is by looking at the picture. But activated abilities, sustained abilities, and passive abilities all get differently shaped icons both on your skillbar and in the skill trees.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Monger wrote: »
    I remember that one time we had a non-sarcastic thread.

    That was a good time.
    A non-sarcastic Dragon Age thread? Are you sure?

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  • finnithfinnith ... TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Yea I don't think that ever happened.

    Maybe you imagined it.

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  • MongerMonger I got the ham stink. Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    It may have been a fever dream. I've also been seeing about half a foot of snow outside my Texas house for the past week, so it's entirely possible that I'm not all here.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    nah, the very first one, before the silly trailers started coming out, was pretty chill

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