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Something wrong with my dad. Help.

Alt-ernativeAlt-ernative Registered User regular
edited January 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
This is an alt, obviously. I just...I need it to be.

Before anything, I want everyone to know that he IS going to the doctor within a couple of days. I made him promise, and I'm going with him.



While driving with my dad, today, something really horrible and scary happened, and I want to know if ANYone knows what the hell this could be, or what exactly happened. I'll try to describe it to the best of my ability.


My dad and I were driving home, and we were talking about a bunch of things, and I remember commenting on his hat, when he just slowed down to a halt in the middle of an insanely busy 4 lane highway. He was unresponsive for what seemed like 3 minutes (could have been less, but I was panicking). No matter what I did, he just stared into the distance. I slapped his leg, I yelled, I did whatever I could but it's like he was in a completely catatonic state. It was like he 'shut off'. Needless to say it scared the hell out of me. When he finally came to, he was...disoriented. He was trying to figure out why we weren't going, when the car was perfectly fine, and on, but it was him that was not right.
He was trying to form words, and trying to describe something, but he wasn't making any sense at all. (I drove home from this point on) About 20 minutes pass, and he's as right as rain. He's able to talk, and form intelligent sentences, and he's totally normal. I asked him if he remembered anything. He doesn't remember stopping the car, but he remembers trying to form sentences and having a very hard time, and trying to snap out of the stupor that he was in.


I'm really scared, and worried about him. My mom and him think it's his thyroid (He has hypothyroidism) acting up, but I don't know. He's going to the doctor hopefully tomorrow, but has anyone ever heard or dealt with something like this? It was probably the most terrifying experience I've ever had, and I'm just so worried about him.

Help, please.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Sounds like a stroke or a seizure. Is your father diabetic?

    Also, he should not be going soon, he should be checking into urgent care or the ER now.

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    You can't recover from a stroke in 3 minutes, it could have been a TIA though (like a mini-stroke) or some sort of seizure.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Go to a goddamn hospital right now.

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  • witch_iewitch_ie Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    It sounds like he might have been having some sort of seizure. A medical opinion is really the best option here though. I think the best thing you can do right now is relax and make sure someone is with your Dad at all times until he gets into the doctor just to make sure he's okay and to also be able to add to the symptoms if something does happen before tomorrow.

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  • Dropping LoadsDropping Loads Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    This sounds like a stroke. He needs to go to an emergency room immediately.

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  • Alt-ernativeAlt-ernative Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    He's not diabetic as far as we know, but it does run in the family.

    He wasn't shaking or anything, he was just...staring ahead, and unresponsive to anything for a couple minutes.

    My mom said that this has happened before, but this is MY first time experiencing it.

    He absolutely will not, at fucking ALL go to a hospital. He refuses. I've begged.

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  • The_Glad_HatterThe_Glad_Hatter One Sly Fox Underneath a Groovy HatRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    this may be anecdotal, but my grandmother experienced something exactly like what you described and it turned out to be a minor stroke.
    She's on meds now but still alive and kicking.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    sounds like a stroke to me

    this isn't something, in my opinion, that you should be waiting a couple of days for.

    in fact I would have gone directly to the hospital, I wouldn't have gone home first.

    edit:

    Ok I had my mom look at this, she's an ICU nurse. She says it looks like a TIA, which like Regina Fong said, is kind of a mini stroke. She said it can potentially be a precursor to a fullblown stroke*. She said he needs to go to the hospital IMMEDIATELY.


    *She wasn't comfortable with me writing this because she says he needs to be diagnosed by a Doctor.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Could be diabetic stroke, or TIA. Could be caused from a number of things, usually heart disease and stuff like that (or diabetes).

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    bowen wrote: »
    Sounds like a stroke or a seizure. Is your father diabetic?

    Also, he should not be going soon, he should be checking into urgent care or the ER now.

    This. Next time it happens he could be in a situation that won't work out as well as this one did. Hell, I'm surprised no-one rammed into the back of you.

    I'm not a doctor and I don't want to be alarmist, but these are stroke-like symptoms, and with strokes the really key thing is getting treatment as soon as possible. While it might be nothing as serious, you cannot assume that it's not. Go to the hospital. Bugger the cost.

    EDIT: Saw that he refuses. Fuck that. Call an ambulance. He's just had an episode where he can't remember what he did for minutes at a time, he's not the best judge of whether he needs to go to the hospital or not.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    He's not diabetic as far as we know, but it does run in the family.

    He wasn't shaking or anything, he was just...staring ahead, and unresponsive to anything for a couple minutes.

    My mom said that this has happened before, but this is MY first time experiencing it.

    He absolutely will not, at fucking ALL go to a hospital. He refuses. I've begged.
    Then take his keys away from him and throw them in a lake or something, because he's knowingly putting everyone on the road in danger by driving.

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  • Dropping LoadsDropping Loads Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    if you can't make him go the the hospital, make damn sure he doesn't worm his way out of the doctor's appointment.

    Edit: Willeth is right, call an ambulance. They are very good at convincing people they need to go to the hospital.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I was maybe getting a bit carried away with my last post. I jumped to stroke because it requires immediate attention. This could also just as easily be narcolepsy, epilepsy, any other kind of lepsy. It still requires going to the doctor and I still recommend getting paramedics out anyway. Call an ambulance, and let them decide whether he needs a hospital.

    I'm sure there's part of this you're not telling us, like that he's concerned he'd lose his job or driving licence if he was diagnosed with a condition that meant he was at risk of paralysis at any time. These things pale in comparison to not getting this checked out.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    One thing to keep in mind, an ambulance crew can't force someone to go to the hospital.



    And people are correct in stating that your father should not be driving until he sees a doctor about this.

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  • Dropping LoadsDropping Loads Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    One thing to keep in mind, an ambulance crew can't force someone to go to the hospital.



    And people are correct in stating that your father should not be driving until he sees a doctor about this.

    Correct, they cannot force him to go. However, they are trained to convince the patient that it is in their best interest. (Both for financial and medical reasons.)

    And at the least, they can take a look at him and see how serious it might be.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    One thing to keep in mind, an ambulance crew can't force someone to go to the hospital.

    No, but a medical professional's opinion is always more convincing than your child's.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Al_wat wrote: »

    edit:

    Ok I had my mom look at this, she's an ICU nurse. She says it looks like a TIA, which like Regina Fong said, is kind of a mini stroke. She said it can potentially be a precursor to a fullblown stroke*. She said he needs to go to the hospital IMMEDIATELY.


    *She wasn't comfortable with me writing this because she says he needs to be diagnosed by a Doctor.

    In case it was missed

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    If it wasn't a (TIA) minor stroke, it sounds enough like one to get the hell to the ER. And not in a couple days, like pretty much right the fuck now. There are meds and items that can pretty much eliminate the damage done, but they are extremely time sensitive; a couple of days is way too damn late to do anything about it.

    It might have 'just' been a seizure, but that in itself is pretty damn severe, and he sure as hell shouldn't be driving. Either way, its going to be a total clusterfuck, but dealing with it now minimizes the chances of winding up dead or retarded. If he can't see that, call his mom.

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  • Alt-ernativeAlt-ernative Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    He's retired (had to have early retirement due to having a heart attack a couple years ago.), but we literally have NO money right now, and a hospital stay will be too much, and he hates hospital doctors (the hospital near us is...it's awful, and known for neglecting their patients. My grandmother died there due to neglect, so I understand why he doesn't want to go there.) I just talked to him, and he feels fine now, but he promised me that he is going to call his doctor, that he trusts, first thing tomorrow morning and setting up an appointment. I'm going with him so I can tell his doctor what I witnessed.


    I honestly didn't even think it could be a mini stroke, because I imagined a stroke to be...different. Falling over, losing consciousness....not just staring.


    Edit: Going to convince him to go to the ER right now. These posts are scaring me.

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  • MrDelishMrDelish Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    my dad had this exact thing days before he had an actual episode where they determined it was a stroke. I don't say this to freak you out, but he passed away three days or so later

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    He's retired (had to have early retirement due to having a heart attack a couple years ago.), but we literally have NO money right now, and a hospital stay will be too much, and he hates hospital doctors (the hospital near us is...it's awful, and known for neglecting their patients. My grandmother died there due to neglect, so I understand why he doesn't want to go there.) I just talked to him, and he feels fine now, but he promised me that he is going to call his doctor, that he trusts, first thing tomorrow morning and setting up an appointment. I'm going with him so I can tell his doctor what I witnessed.


    I honestly didn't even think it could be a mini stroke, because I imagined a stroke to be...different. Falling over, losing consciousness....not just staring.


    Edit: Going to convince him to go to the ER right now. These posts are scaring me.

    How close is the next closest hospital?

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    show him this thread man

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  • Alt-ernativeAlt-ernative Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Nevermind. Going to the hospital now.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    He's retired (had to have early retirement due to having a heart attack a couple years ago.), but we literally have NO money right now, and a hospital stay will be too much, and he hates hospital doctors (the hospital near us is...it's awful, and known for neglecting their patients. My grandmother died there due to neglect, so I understand why he doesn't want to go there.) I just talked to him, and he feels fine now, but he promised me that he is going to call his doctor, that he trusts, first thing tomorrow morning and setting up an appointment. I'm going with him so I can tell his doctor what I witnessed.


    I honestly didn't even think it could be a mini stroke, because I imagined a stroke to be...different. Falling over, losing consciousness....not just staring.


    Edit: Going to convince him to go to the ER right now. These posts are scaring me.

    If he's still not budging, get him to call his trusted doctor now. For one, it'll help put your dad at ease, and two, there's no way you'd be disturbing him. He's a doctor for a reason and he'd want to know about this ASAP.

    EDIT: Good work. Good luck, and I hope he's okay.

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  • KistraKistra Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    How long ago was this? If it was a stroke, there are drugs that can only be given in the first few hours.

    Has he agreed not to drive? Your post about accompanying him to the doctor tomorrow didn't say which one of you was driving.

    Does his trusted doctor have a call service? Call it, right now. That way the trusted doctor may be able to talk him into going to a hospital (note, if you drive him, you can drive to a different hospital)

    EDIT: nevermind, good job!

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    One of the things I love about H/A, is that if at any point everyone is in agreement, it's a well established fact that shit just got real.

    Good job to everyone and the OP. Hope it all works out.

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  • RisenPhoenixRisenPhoenix SUPER HOTRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Nevermind. Going to the hospital now.

    Very happy to hear this. Best of luck.

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  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Before a full-on stroke, people can have a few "mini-strokes" first. I HIGHLY recommend you get him to a hospital PRONTO. Without delay.

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  • Alt-ernativeAlt-ernative Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Just got back from the hospital to get my dad his laptop/etc. They don't think it was a stroke. They're doing a lot of tests (cat scan, bloodwork, etc), but they think it's either TIA or hyperthyroidism. Either way, I'm really happy he agreed to go to the hospital, and I'm really glad you guys convinced me that shit is very serious, and to get his ASS to the hospital.

    I'll let you guys know what happens, but hopefully everything will be okay.

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  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Just got back from the hospital to get my dad his laptop/etc. They don't think it was a stroke. They're doing a lot of tests (cat scan, bloodwork, etc), but they think it's either TIA or hyperthyroidism. Either way, I'm really happy he agreed to go to the hospital, and I'm really glad you guys convinced me that shit is very serious, and to get his ASS to the hospital.

    I'll let you guys know what happens, but hopefully everything will be okay.


    Most excellent! Good job getting him to go.

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  • Dropping LoadsDropping Loads Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    So awesome! Good job and good luck.

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  • SiskaSiska Shorty Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Epilepsy does not have to mean muscle spasms. I knew a girl in her 20ies who would have episodes similar to the one you describe. Only daily, her whole life. No convulsions or drooling, just a complete shut off, that would take about half an hour to recover from. Since she had them all the time without warning, she had to wear a helmet and could never be alone in case she would get hurt when falling. Of course, driving a car or riding a bike in traffic was out of the question.

    Good luck. I hope whatever caused your father to suddenly go blank is something fixable and not too serious!

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  • Alt-ernativeAlt-ernative Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Yeah, turns out it's probably epilepsy. My dad just gave me a call, and told me a head doctor came to the hospital (He actually got transferred out of the crap hospital into a better one, yay!), and told him that he believes it's epilepsy. He's going to have an MRI done, and a couple of other tests, I guess, and he's going to be given medication.


    I don't really know what this means now. It's rare when this happens, the last one my mom witnessed was a couple of years ago. Maybe 1 or 2, I don't know.


    Fake Edit: Dad just called, and they said that he can't drive for at least a year. Luckily I'm still living at home while I go to school, and will be continuing after I graduate so I can get a job, save money, and get on my feet. So, I'll be around to help him when he needs it.

    I'm really sad.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited January 2011
    Just because that's the last one your mom witnessed doesn't mean it's the last one that happened. :/ It's really good that he's getting this sorted.

    It's hard, but now that they know what it is and it's being addressed, he should be safer. Make sure that you both familiarize yourselves with the side effects (both short- and long-term) of the new medication, and also if he ever drinks, even just an occasional beer, make sure that's still safe to do before he does it again.

    Good luck. I'm glad you could be there for him.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    ceres wrote: »
    It's hard, but now that they know what it is and it's being addressed, he should be safer.

    I want to emphasise this. As sad as it is to give a name to a condition, it's only a good thing that he can now get appropriate treatment.

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  • KabitzyKabitzy find me in Monsbaiya Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Sounds exactly like what happened to my mom (twice). First time I wasn't in the room but the second time I was sitting on her bed and we were chatting away about something we saw on television and all of a sudden she did exactly as you described. She looked absolutely unlike my mother, was unresponsive, and acted very scary. We called an ambulance and by that time she was coming around and asking "Where am I going?" and by time we got to the hospital she was fine, but the doctors informed us she had had another seizure (like the first time). Her seizures were triggered by a medication she was taking and was promptly taken off of it and has yet to have another seizure. I understand how scary they are to witness.

    EDIT: oops, didn't see your post explaining he had epilepsy. Glad he was diagnosed so quickly and that he can now be treated!

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  • RikushixRikushix VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Yeah, this sounds like a textbook petit mal seizure. That is very serious. I'm impressed with all of H&A's advice.

    Petit mal seizures are what happened to your father. Grand mal seizures are what a lot of people imagine when they think of "seizures": muscle spasms, motor control irregularities, that sort of thing.

    I have had the disturbing misfortune of witnessing a grand mal seizure in a nine year old girl I was briefly looking after. But I imagine that a petit mal can be just as scary.

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  • Alt-ernativeAlt-ernative Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I just feel really awful for him. He has a number of health issues that he's been trying to tackle, and now we have to add this to the list too.

    I'm not entirely sure how we're going to afford all of this, but I guess we'll figure it out when we get to it.

    He only can't drive for a year though, which isn't that long, so he'll have his freedom back then, but in the meantime, I'll be able to spend more time with him when I take him shopping, or where ever he needs to go. It'll be kind of nice.

    I'm sorry this is turning into a vent/livejournal sob thread. I really don't mean it to be. It's just hard to deal with, and making updates and writing everything out makes me feel a little bit better.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Just remember, by getting him to go to the hospital and get this condition diagnosed and treated, you've most likely saved his life.

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  • KabitzyKabitzy find me in Monsbaiya Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I just feel really awful for him. He has a number of health issues that he's been trying to tackle, and now we have to add this to the list too.

    I'm not entirely sure how we're going to afford all of this, but I guess we'll figure it out when we get to it.

    He only can't drive for a year though, which isn't that long, so he'll have his freedom back then, but in the meantime, I'll be able to spend more time with him when I take him shopping, or where ever he needs to go. It'll be kind of nice.

    I'm sorry this is turning into a vent/livejournal sob thread. I really don't mean it to be. It's just hard to deal with, and making updates and writing everything out makes me feel a little bit better.

    I really understand where you are coming from. My family has always been financially strapped but that has never stopped strange things from happening to my mom and dad. We lost one house because of complications from my mom's surgery leading to her being unable to work for a year, and recently with my father having problems after a wreck he had. It can all be extremely stressful, but I am extremely close to my parents because of all these issues. Enjoy being there for your father.

    Also, yeah, I suggest venting. A lot. I really didn't know how to handle when financial/health burdens happened and I basically just became depressed and sick myself but now that I can talk to people about it I feel better able to deal with the situations.

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