Detective Comics #873 is now my favorite DC book, even beating Secret Six. This issue has fun with fear gas,
plus Dick gets his own bat-armor:
Dick gets infected with a fear type gas that could also make him stroke out, he dreams that his legs were eaten by the Mirror House people, Babs wants some more Dick (lolz):
wakes up, rbigns the fight to The Dealer, who Hulks out into a freaky thing. Bat-armor takes him down because it's the best:
And Thunderbolts #152, Hyperion shows us what he's made of:
he takes out a godzilla monster, then tries another one:
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None of the Bat-books right now are really grimdark and it's refreshing, although that's supposed to be what Finch's Dark Knight is if it can come out on time.
They were out of Thunderbolts when I got there though, so that made me sad.
Oh wait upon actually reading the books no it makes no sense at all.
I call em like I see em. Batman and Robin #1 has (what appeared to me) someone strapped to the table in roder to become a "doll". There's knives in Batman's crotch with "Don't mansplain to me". There's drills pointed at Batman/Robin's heads and now nightmare scenes where Dick has had his legs chewed off and Barbara is planning with a knife and his crotch.
Sure, I haven't read the books, and I might have just tuned in at all the wrong parts, but all I see of Batman and Robin these days are scenes like that. It certainly doesn't motivate me to give the book another try.
This is the same comic that had readers voting on a teenage boy being beaten to death. Twenty years ago.
Not to mention that you are naming three issues from about two years worth of comics.
And Una Nemo and all the man-hate comes from the fact she was one of Bruce/Hush's temporary girlfriends who never opened up to her. It's a very Cornell thing in his writing.
Also my previous post was pretty angry and I have no idea why
and start writing that thing
I think Batman villains used to do all their bad stuff off screen and all we saw was the dead people, or Batman arrived to save them. The origins for bad guys were almost universally brutal, but it seemed that their use in the actual comics was scaled back from the horror of their origins. Maybe I'm just remembering wrong.
A good example in comics of someone losing a limb and living that doesn't bother me at all is Oliver Queen in The Dark Knight. It happened off screen, in the past. There's also the context that Superman did it because Oliver wouldn't stop his anti-government campaign and Superman doesn't kill. Ultimately, he is initially presented in the comic as missing an arm and it's old history at that point, so it didn't bother me.
I mean, they used to tell good Batman stories under the Comics Code 20 years ago without scenes like this.
Like, all of them.
The bit where he was making fun of Luthor and Luthor caught on mid-sentence was great.
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Huh?
Do you mean books with Batman in the title as opposed to the Detective Comics scan at the top of the page?
All of them, all the books.
All the books you don't actually read but like to opine at length about.
Particularly since the events you're referencing are specifically fake things that don't happen in books that tend to be written in much the same style you say you're pining for a return to.
I mean fuck, if you said "Green Lantern" I would get it, but you may as well complain of the violence in Knight and Squire.
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I feel like words don't mean what I think they should mean in this conversation.
In Detective #873, Babs going crazy for Dick's dick was a nightmare brought on by fear gas.
Both these things were feints. In fact the only deaths in Detective Comics for this first arc was when a guy crashed his car, and when another guy got filled with Poison Ivy spores to shut him up. It's a dark book because this is Gotham, but it's nowhere near early 2000's Batman stuff.
It so hard to trade wait this. I bought the original Casanova comics as they came out and it seems I have misplaced them. I was all set to buy both of the trades when the Marvel re-do thing was announced.
it looks sooo good too
Do the Marvel re-dos include the bizarre back matter from the original printings?