[Cities in Motion] Public Transport Management Simulation? HELL YES

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  • Kris_xKKris_xK Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Welp, I got put in my place.

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    If anybody's playing Open TTD (or remembers how Transport Tycoon works), can they help me out figuring signalling? This thing's a bitch!

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Forget it. Just double track everything with one-way tracks and pull-through stations.

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  • HydroSqueegeeHydroSqueegee ULTRACAT!!!™®© Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    harvest wrote: »
    Forget it. Just double track everything with one-way tracks and pull-through stations.

    what? the enhanced signaling is amazing. havent played open ttd in a while, but those presignals... mmmmm...

    there was a pretty handy guide to the signals...

    here:

    http://wiki.openttd.org/Signals

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  • DietarySupplementDietarySupplement Still not approved by the FDA Dublin, OHRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I need this.

    Transport Tycoon still obsesses me.

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  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Man, I love that games like this still come out nowadays.

    PC gaming dying, casual gamers taking over, nuh uh.

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  • Death_ClawDeath_Claw Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    SHIT, so after 3 days playing on sandbox with Vienna, leaving the game minimized overnight, all was going well, my 3 bus lines were profitable, the metro made a ton of money and I even had a slightly profitable water bus line and a slightly unprofitable helicopter line, as in it would actually make some money when the economy was going well but lose a little the rest of the time. So I decide to change my main bus line to trams, did everything while paused, built the tracks, changed the bus stops to tram, improved a little on the stop layout and as I press start for the game to resume nothing, then a black screen and it crashes to the desktop... :evil:

    Well I had a lot of fun with it, I will now probably get back to my backlog to clear some of it for when this is released. This game is still definitely a day one purchase for me, just waiting for it to show up on steam to grab it...
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    Man, I love that games like this still come out nowadays.

    PC gaming dying, casual gamers taking over, nuh uh.

    This should be an interesting read to you then...

    I specially like this part...
    One of the keys to success has been their refusal to take the advise of others. They have been told that hardcore PC gaming is dying, that it would be suicide to go into publishing, that digital distribution is way off in the future and that the online free-to-play market is overcrowded. Yet, that's the path they have walked and it has taken them very far from humble beginnings.

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Yeah, there seems to be a widely known pause-deletion-crash to desktop bug in the beta/demo

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  • Death_ClawDeath_Claw Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Well I´m weak so I decided to try to see how well I would do in Tutorial Town, and after Vienna it was really easy. Started by taking a loan to build a subway from the airport to the main plaza, with one stop at the stadium. The line was profitable enough to pay for itself and the loan, so I started building trams on small circular paths to maximize covered area and to bring more people to the subway. First one was to the auto factory and train station, then around the main plaza and to the west and then southern part of the town. After this I was already making 3-4k+ monthly, so I built another tram to the west and a bus line to the houses on the northwest. After that a barely profitable bus from those industries near the airport to the subway and finally a tram to the northeast since 2 trams took care of the job of I imagine at least 4 buses. I decided to quit with a coverage of 88%, approval of 90% and more money than I could spend. Here is how it looked.

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    Now I really need to uninstall this beta or else I know I will continue playing it and nothing else, I am now afraid of how it will be when the game is released...

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  • Brian KrakowBrian Krakow Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    zerg rush wrote: »
    So, I guess this game is for people who played Railroad Tycoon and said "back the fuck up, fuckers. You know what would make this game 99x better? Graphs."
    But, Railroad Tycoon did have graphs... Well, the second one did at least.

    This game looks pretty cool; too bad my aging computer is just below the requirements. I'm tempted to give it a shot anyways, but as far as my productivity is concerned not being able to play this is a good thing.

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  • Death_ClawDeath_Claw Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    The preorder is up on steam, 20 bucks with 5 bonus vehicles as a preorder bonus.

    Edit: Heh, someone on steam screwed up, if you preorder you can download and play the full game right now. They will probably block this in the morning though...

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Holy crap it's true. I'm totally downloading this. I wonder if they can lock it back up :O

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Preordered and downloading as we speak! Awesome.

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  • weeskweeweeskwee Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    hah! got it too. downloading now. pretty small though... only 357.6 MB

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Can we talk some strategy? I keep going in the red on the first campaign mission. They want you to start out with buses and then build a tram. Looking at my final vehicle roster it seems like the buses break about even or a little less, and the tram rakes in the cash. What are the buses even doing for me here and why would I want them?

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  • Death_ClawDeath_Claw Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Ok so according to the devs posting on the paradox forums the version for download is not the release version, the game went gold just yesterday. They are still checking to see if they will have steam block it or not and they warned that the save games may get corrupted when the final release version is launched.

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Yeah, I noticed Amsterdam was jamming up almost immediately... I think they're probably going to patch on release day.

    I'll stick to sandboxes for now, methinks

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  • ÆthelredÆthelred Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Yesssssssss I bought a new graphics card for this.

    Despite the fact that no-one got on my buses in the beta. I built a line from the workers' terraced houses in the east of the map (Vienna), to all the way around the industrial estate. But no-one ever got on..

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  • IdolisideIdoliside Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Does anyone have a link for the demo on steam, not available in europe yet apparently.

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  • Death_ClawDeath_Claw Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Well it is actually a beta not a demo. Here is a direct link, you can also find it on Fileplanet.

    Edit: It seems they took the game down from the store page, probably to solve this little "accident". The game is still on my games list and is playable though.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    A Transport Tycoon-style game? Fuck yes!

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  • Death_ClawDeath_Claw Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Synthesis wrote: »
    A Transport Tycoon-style game? Fuck yes!

    That´s actually the name of one of steam´s achivements, I know I laughed...

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  • ElosElos Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    So it's a Transport Tycoon kinda game, costs only 20EUR and is made by a Finnish team? Preordered.

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  • envoy1envoy1 the old continentRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    They're Swedish. But I have to pre-order this just to support PC-only games. It's worth it.

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Uh, having recently played OpenTTD, it's closer to Traffic Giants than Transport Tycoon.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Jintor wrote: »
    Uh, having recently played OpenTTD, it's closer to Traffic Giants than Transport Tycoon.

    I noticed this myself. I was a little disappointed with OpenTTD since most of the modules for many scenarios have been lost to the void, but CiM seems to be local city only.

    Still fun though.

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    So I downloaded a newer beta last night? Figures. I noticed something was weird when black sedans kept parking on the road for days without any traffic ahead impeding their progress.

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    This is great and all, but playing OpenTTD really makes me just want another, better-looking Transport Tycoon even more. That said, I haven't had the chance to really sit down and start looking through CiM, and I kind of don't want to until official release - I have plenty of other stuff to look at in the meantime.

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    We should have an OpenTTD thread. I started playing it again today and I'm having trouble cause the font is small and I can't find a way to make it bigger.

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Changing the resolution doesn't help any? I think I saw a font size modifier somewhere in the options...

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    It just runs in a window, and changing the window size just lets you see more stuff at the same relative size.

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  • Mr RayMr Ray Sarcasm sphereRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Well I hope you're happy. I'm installing OpenTTD as we speak.

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I need like a tutorial on how to not suck at trains. Trains are so versatile but I am bad and as mentioned above only seem to manage when making one-way loops.

    And why can't I put cows or iron ore on airplanes? I could drain these farms and mines dry if I didn't have to use trains or *shudder* trucks.

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  • HydroSqueegeeHydroSqueegee ULTRACAT!!!™®© Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    harvest wrote: »
    I need like a tutorial on how to not suck at trains. Trains are so versatile but I am bad and as mentioned above only seem to manage when making one-way loops.

    And why can't I put cows or iron ore on airplanes? I could drain these farms and mines dry if I didn't have to use trains or *shudder* trucks.


    :?

    planes arnt really used for cows or iron ore now are they? not really profitable. they barely make a profit in the real world with passengers and mail.

    trains are king in TTD. Even trucks and trams are fun in openTTD. Just for fun i'll do a truck only company.

    practice with trains on maps with no competitors. easiest way to start is to haul coal from mines to power plants. Build a 2 track station at the mine. then lay a route to a power plant a fair distance away as flat and with as few curves as possible. at the end you can do a 1 track station.

    If someone makes a TTD thread i can help out. ive been playing it for a LONG time. still have my original DOS CD for it. :D


    http://wiki.openttd.org/OpenTTD

    open TTD wiki is your friend

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  • tektek meh... WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    harvest wrote: »
    I need like a tutorial on how to not suck at trains. Trains are so versatile but I am bad and as mentioned above only seem to manage when making one-way loops.

    And why can't I put cows or iron ore on airplanes? I could drain these farms and mines dry if I didn't have to use trains or *shudder* trucks.


    :?

    planes arnt really used for cows or iron ore now are they? not really profitable. they barely make a profit in the real world with passengers and mail.

    trains are king in TTD. Even trucks and trams are fun in openTTD. Just for fun i'll do a truck only company.

    practice with trains on maps with no competitors. easiest way to start is to haul coal from mines to power plants. Build a 2 track station at the mine. then lay a route to a power plant a fair distance away as flat and with as few curves as possible. at the end you can do a 1 track station.

    If someone makes a TTD thread i can help out. ive been playing it for a LONG time. still have my original DOS CD for it. :D


    http://wiki.openttd.org/OpenTTD

    open TTD wiki is your friend

    OpenTTD is pretty awesome, at one point I was hosting a server for me and my brother just to have fun and tool around on.

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  • HydroSqueegeeHydroSqueegee ULTRACAT!!!™®© Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    tek wrote: »
    harvest wrote: »
    I need like a tutorial on how to not suck at trains. Trains are so versatile but I am bad and as mentioned above only seem to manage when making one-way loops.

    And why can't I put cows or iron ore on airplanes? I could drain these farms and mines dry if I didn't have to use trains or *shudder* trucks.


    :?

    planes arnt really used for cows or iron ore now are they? not really profitable. they barely make a profit in the real world with passengers and mail.

    trains are king in TTD. Even trucks and trams are fun in openTTD. Just for fun i'll do a truck only company.

    practice with trains on maps with no competitors. easiest way to start is to haul coal from mines to power plants. Build a 2 track station at the mine. then lay a route to a power plant a fair distance away as flat and with as few curves as possible. at the end you can do a 1 track station.

    If someone makes a TTD thread i can help out. ive been playing it for a LONG time. still have my original DOS CD for it. :D


    http://wiki.openttd.org/OpenTTD

    open TTD wiki is your friend

    OpenTTD is pretty awesome, at one point I was hosting a server for me and my brother just to have fun and tool around on.

    i dare say its bad ass. and one being into trains, such as myself, there is a lovely american locomotive plugin so you dont have to play with the odd euro engines. :D


    god... im still at 0.71 R2... i havent played in a while


    trains, weeeeee!

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I don't understand how you're getting coal plants to produce that much coal. Supplies always dry up after a few years :T

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I just learned from that wiki that I've been making RORO stations, which seems like the way to go in a lot of circumstances. There is soooooooooo much stuff about signaling that I need to learn wow.

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I've been sticking to my one-way circle lanes, but shit keeps jamming. Might not be the way to go.

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  • HydroSqueegeeHydroSqueegee ULTRACAT!!!™®© Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Just keep hauling that mineral away. make a moderate size train and tell it to wait for a full load. the higher % of load hauled, the more it will produce.

    ive never been a fan of passenger transport. i never do RORO stations except for the rare occasion i'll have a passenger train with 3 stations on its route. I'll do Terminus type routes with 1 or more trains going between 2 cities.

    Example: This is a terminus station in a large town. I have a double track main line with pre-signals along the route. these separate the area between each signal into blocks. So a train can travel down the line close behind another train and no one will have to stop for another. Keep in mind each track goes one way between the town, like a road. One line for east, one line for west and so on.

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    and here is the other connecting town. Note the next line running up to the next town. same idea with that.

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