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Late to MAG, and I just don't get it in spite of everything

liquidloganliquidlogan Registered User regular
edited February 2011 in Games and Technology
So, I couldn't help but pick up MAG as it was £3.99 and, well, what the hell, right? Picking it up made a whole bunch of sense as I've been playing FPS games for years and years. I've probably playing the wider genre for more hours than any other and playing most of the different type of games the genre has to offer (from the original Ghost Recon and Rainbow Six games to Day of Defeat to Modern Military Shooter 24). PC, console, whatever.

But I don't get MAG, and I'm thinking I never will. Though at the price I can't say I've been too heartbroken about it, I'm still feeling frustrated.

Mechanically, there isn't anything specifically wrong with the game. Aiming feels fine and all that, no different than any other modern console shooter (although the controls take some minor mental hurdling considering most games have borrowed from the CoD model, and with good reason I reckon), and the idea is wonderful even if you only ever feel like you are in small skirmishes rather than these larger conflicts. But there is just something off about the gameplay that makes me wonder if its just me starting out in the game (having only played about 2 hours and am about a level 5 Valor). Am I playing the wrong modes? Did I join the wrong faction? Are the maps just bad? Everything about this game seems like it would make for a game I'd enjoy, and yet when I play it, this inexplicable soulless feeling washes over me, even though I genuinely want to enjoy this (and will keep trying until I either enjoy it or I break). Maybe I need to play with dudes... any PA Euros still playing this on Valor (PSN: liquidlogan)?

Am I just doing it wrong? This is not a troll thread.

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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    i only played the beta, but i played quite a bit of it. it takes time to get the hang of the different modes' rhythms. it'll take a lot longer than two hours to come to grips with the maps - particularly the bigger ones - and their points of consequence. until that point where it kind of 'clicks' and you're like, oh, right, this is why i'm being to sent to one specific pump/turret/gate of so many, i know how it can feel soulless

    along with that it does take a good squad and a good squad leader. a good leader will choose the right objectives and position the squad in prime spots to keep the situation under control or push forward through the defence.

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  • EvilMonkeyEvilMonkey Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    MAG thread resurrect!

    The PA players (that I know of) in Valor are...
    Malechai (US)
    Craptastic-J (US?)
    SteadiestShark* (UK)
    SciencePiggy* (me) (CAN)
    * extra character slot, currently inactive

    Unfortunately the PA clan is on life support so you are very late to the party in that regard. However I can try to answer any specific questions you have and try to group up (timezone permitting). However my main char is now in SVER.

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  • acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Institutionalized Safe in jail.Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I'll tell you this, if you're playing alone then you're doing it wrong. While I was still playing I would pretty much log on to see if there were other PA people online and if there weren't I'd play something else.

    Also in my experience all the people who seemed to know what they were doing tactically/strategically were on SVER, all the whiney babies who wanted to be tacticool went Raven, and then Valor were all the people who didn't fit into the other two categories.

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  • XaviarXaviar Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    If you are playing with a group of people you know and can talk to and work together with, MAG was a blast. I don't normally play shooters, but I loved it. CoD? Hate it.

    MAG with people? Awesome.

    HOWEVER.

    If you're playing with whatever random squad you've been assigned to because you aren't in a party? The game is absolutely balls terrible.

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  • Dr_KeenbeanDr_Keenbean Dumb as a butt Planet Express ShipRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    This is absolutely a love it or hate it game. I just started playing again a few days ago and bought all the DLC stuff. War, in spite of Ron Perlman's frequent reminders, has definitely changed since release.

    I've been met with some success lately on Raven (gasp!) with the PUGs (gasp x 2!). Since everyone from PA abandoned Raven long ago and I'm level 30 it's my only option.

    It takes a little bit for MAG to click and you start getting decent XP per match.

    If you don't mind re-rolling Raven you can shoot mans with me (PSN in sig). I try to play around 1700 or so GMT-5.

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I think it's more fun when everyone is cooperating.

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  • liquidloganliquidlogan Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Yep, I've been playing alone and it does seem to be something improved with more plays.

    Keenbean, I'll be happy to re-roll as Raven since you've started playing it again. Maybe we can get something going this weekend?

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  • blikbokblikbok Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    EvilMonkey wrote: »
    MAG thread resurrect!

    The PA players (that I know of) in Valor are...
    Malechai (US)
    Craptastic-J (US?)
    SteadiestShark* (UK)
    SciencePiggy* (me) (CAN)
    * extra character slot, currently inactive

    Unfortunately the PA clan is on life support so you are very late to the party in that regard. However I can try to answer any specific questions you have and try to group up (timezone permitting). However my main char is now in SVER.

    I can never find any of you guys online. And I idle in the Deployment screen for hours.

    To the OP: you've got to find a solid team. I've never had that same feeling in any other game then when 1-2 dozen [PA] are rolling together. Full squads of [PA]. [PA] tags all the way up the chain of command.

    Glorious.

    Let's do this.

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  • PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Mag was super great with a PA Platoon. I don't think there will ever be that many people again. It's sad.

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  • Dyvim TvarDyvim Tvar Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Man, where do you even find a copy of MAG for £3.99? Lowest I've seen it for was £13 and it was gone three hours later when I went to actually pick it up.
    Shame really because I would like to play it, but can never find it for a price that screams "buy me now".

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  • BornToHulaBornToHula Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I play pretty regularly if you want to add me. I roll as SVER though.

    I think the biggest thing to keep in mind is that despite the similarities with other shooters, MAG is a very different beast from your typical shooter. I also play Bad Company 2 with some regularity, but I find if I try to swap off I get rather frustrated pretty quickly. Just take it slow, find a few folks to play with, and don't be a lone wolf. About all I can suggest.

    Oh, and maybe reroll to SVER, I started on Valor and ended up hating it. I may vet to Raven though, time will tell.

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  • EvilMonkeyEvilMonkey Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    blikbok wrote: »
    EvilMonkey wrote: »
    MAG thread resurrect!

    The PA players (that I know of) in Valor are...
    Malechai (US)
    Craptastic-J (US?)
    SteadiestShark* (UK)
    SciencePiggy* (me) (CAN)
    * extra character slot, currently inactive

    Unfortunately the PA clan is on life support so you are very late to the party in that regard. However I can try to answer any specific questions you have and try to group up (timezone permitting). However my main char is now in SVER.

    I can never find any of you guys online. And I idle in the Deployment screen for hours.

    To the OP: you've got to find a solid team. I've never had that same feeling in any other game then when 1-2 dozen [PA] are rolling together. Full squads of [PA]. [PA] tags all the way up the chain of command.

    Glorious.

    Let's do this.
    Oh so the founding member (?) finally returns and blames us for not showing up? :P

    Send me a friend invite, I don't think I have you on my list. I was on the PSN for a few hours last night but the only people I saw on were playing that filthy BLOPS :P

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  • MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    EvilMonkey wrote: »
    blikbok wrote: »
    EvilMonkey wrote: »
    MAG thread resurrect!

    The PA players (that I know of) in Valor are...
    Malechai (US)
    Craptastic-J (US?)
    SteadiestShark* (UK)
    SciencePiggy* (me) (CAN)
    * extra character slot, currently inactive

    Unfortunately the PA clan is on life support so you are very late to the party in that regard. However I can try to answer any specific questions you have and try to group up (timezone permitting). However my main char is now in SVER.

    I can never find any of you guys online. And I idle in the Deployment screen for hours.

    To the OP: you've got to find a solid team. I've never had that same feeling in any other game then when 1-2 dozen [PA] are rolling together. Full squads of [PA]. [PA] tags all the way up the chain of command.

    Glorious.

    Let's do this.
    Oh so the founding member (?) finally returns and blames us for not showing up? :P

    Send me a friend invite, I don't think I have you on my list. I was on the PSN for a few hours last night but the only people I saw on were playing that filthy BLOPS :P

    Small problem, I'm once again employed. Work's backed up so, I'm currently working 6 days a week. That only leaves a small window of game time from noon (when I usualy wake up) to 3 to play or from 1 am to when ever. CST.

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  • liquidloganliquidlogan Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Dyvim Tvar wrote: »
    Man, where do you even find a copy of MAG for £3.99? Lowest I've seen it for was £13 and it was gone three hours later when I went to actually pick it up.
    Shame really because I would like to play it, but can never find it for a price that screams "buy me now".

    Was that price preowned at Gamestation online week-and-a-half ago, now up to a miserable £12.99.

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  • EvilMonkeyEvilMonkey Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Malechai wrote: »
    Small problem, I'm once again employed. Work's backed up so, I'm currently working 6 days a week. That only leaves a small window of game time from noon (when I usualy wake up) to 3 to play or from 1 am to when ever. CST.
    I know your game! You got employed just to add another excuse not to rage at the pubbie squad leads with me. How convenient :P
    Congrats, if I remember right you and Vander were searching for awhile. Hopefully he has a similar excuse since he's been MIA as well.

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  • BastableBastable Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I'm going to be back on mag on our old sever clan. Move hand gun attachment has made me a worse gunfighter. I am going to buy the machine pistol attachment, three points of contact will make me more accurate, i know it: IN MY HEART.

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  • MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    My god it's the wii all over again cept with better looking games. Hope you do find some way to make move work well for you I'm almost tempted to pick that up after I take care of some more pressing expences.
    At least this time of jobless was shorter than the post texas instruments lay off. Though without the tasty severance package.

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  • liquidloganliquidlogan Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    So... I'm guessing if I want to play with you guys I best re-roll as SVER, huh? Will do :)

    I know I have you already on PSN, Malechai, but I'd be happy to join up with some of you guys if you don't mind having canon fodder following you around. Add me (PSN: liquidlogan); Try and include PA in the title or in the body of the friend request so I don't think its a random if I don't recognize your nickname.

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  • MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    So... I'm guessing if I want to play with you guys I best re-roll as SVER, huh? Will do :)

    I know I have you already on PSN, Malechai, but I'd be happy to join up with some of you guys if you don't mind having canon fodder following you around. Add me (PSN: liquidlogan); Try and include PA in the title or in the body of the friend request so I don't think its a random if I don't recognize your nickname.

    Well not that I have time to play any more but I'm actualy in Valor trying my to get back to sevr some day. Just been too busy with other stuff.

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  • BastableBastable Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Malechai wrote: »
    My god it's the wii all over again cept with better looking games. Hope you do find some way to make move work well for you I'm almost tempted to pick that up after I take care of some more pressing expences.
    At least this time of jobless was shorter than the post texas instruments lay off. Though without the tasty severance package.
    Funny thing is I am more accurate holding the move like a wand, the pistol/attachment thing makes me a spinning merry go round of suicide. But using the move like a wand makes my arms hurt :(. I'm going to buy the machine pistol/submachine gun thing tommrow.

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    Philippe about the tactical deployment of german Kradschützen during the battle of Kursk:
    "I think I can comment on this because I used to live above the Baby Doll Lounge, a topless bar that was once frequented by bikers in lower Manhattan."

  • BastableBastable Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    EvilMonkey wrote: »
    MAG thread resurrect!

    The PA players (that I know of) in Valor are...
    Malechai (US)
    Craptastic-J (US?)
    SteadiestShark* (UK)
    SciencePiggy* (me) (CAN)
    * extra character slot, currently inactive

    Unfortunately the PA clan is on life support so you are very late to the party in that regard. However I can try to answer any specific questions you have and try to group up (timezone permitting). However my main char is now in SVER.

    I gave you officer rank so you can invite other cannon fodder \0/

    Bastable on
    Philippe about the tactical deployment of german Kradschützen during the battle of Kursk:
    "I think I can comment on this because I used to live above the Baby Doll Lounge, a topless bar that was once frequented by bikers in lower Manhattan."

  • Torso BoyTorso Boy Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Had a blast playing it with friends, but then I got a PC and Bad Company 2. MAG isn't bad, I'd actually say it's stronger than its reputation might have you believe, but it still pales in comparison to the competition.

    I played early on so they may have altered things, but the 256-player battles, the selling point of the game, was the weakest part. That mode felt like utter chaos, and you spend a lot of time getting your ass handed to you until you understand the map. Depending on the skill levels of the opposition and your own team, you may never manage to get out of that stage. Which is ultimately why I stopped playing.

    Overall, playing with people you know can elevate the experience a lot. Also, at least last time I played, straight assault is the least interesting route.

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