One more thing to add - I restarted my machine, and steam now wants to start in compatibility mode. I'm not yet sure if this is related to this game or not, it could be coincidental. Has it happened to anyone else?
edit: Whether or not it caused this, this is the fix:
Remove the key entry for steam.exe (right hand side) under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers
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TehSlothHit Or MissI Guess They Never Miss, HuhRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
Hey guys, had some questions to see if any of you worked through what I'm trying to mess with now. I unfortunately have the seemingly poor PC port, and I'm trying to get things to control like I had them in TDU1. After completely remapping just about everything (using kb+m) I'm getting close, but the transmission settings are silly. Before you could do manual + disable auto-clutch, which I really liked, so I instantly gravitated towards the H-Shifter + clutch option. Nope, not it, it seems to be designed to only actually work with steering wheel controllers since gears can't be changed with the gear up/down buttons and as soon as you let go of the button mapped to the gear you want to be in, you pop back out to neutral. The regular H-Shifter option functions similarly only it completely disables the clutch, making it doubly useless, and the sequential shift lets me change gears like I want but also completely disables the clutch.
Well it's 4am and I just stopped playing. It is really good fun. Picked up my second car. ANother Mustang :P
I like my muscle cars dammit! Its a GT and it's so good. Handling is much improved over the Fastback. The cockpit view feels better too. I've just been driving around checking the scenery. Its good. Night time driving was cool, started raining too.
All in all, completely pleased with my purchase and I'm running it on medium settings with the occasional slowdown (system issue sadly, need to upgrade).
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Just put in a couple of hours, unhappily relegated to using my 360 pad until when and if I ever get to see how it feels with my wheel.
Got through the first championship, which is pretty dull. Not much of a challenge once I accepted that I needed to get out and push the car through the tighter corners and yet could still beat the AI. Bought all the bronze upgrades for my '68 pony. Dressed up my avatar a little bit. Sadly, nothing the fashion shops or hairdressers have to offer will make him look like less of a douche.
Whoever thought the first-person menu system was a good idea should be taken out and shot.
It really pains me to disagree with Big Isy so much because I think he's a real gent, but even setting aside all of the release shenanigans and bugs, nothing about this game impresses me so far at all. I could at least enjoy cruising around if the visuals were up to snuff, but to me the game is nothing special at all from a visual standpoint. NFS Hot Pursuit has much better rendered scenery for just driving around. Of course, Hot Pursuit has no in-car view so if that's a make-or-break thing then obviously TDU2 is your game but the car interiors themselves look very plain to me. All in all TDU2 looks decidedly dated in my opinion, really only a marginal improvement from what I remember of the first game.
So do we know which cars are DLC only?
DLC-only at this point are the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Grand Sport Sang Bleu and Centenaire, Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano China Edition, and Nissan 370Z Optional Parts. Those are the ones we know of so far - all of them are now tagged as "DLC" in the official car list, where they had no such tag prior to today.
Additionally, for whatever reason the Spyker C8 Aileron coupe is not available in the PC and PS3 versions and the Ferrari 458 Italia is not in the 360 version, although I thought I had heard something about those two being prizes for the respective versions of the casino DLC.
Its cool Gaslight, we all have our opinions. That said, I've been known to let graphics slide so the game probably isn't alli that in the looks department. I have been playing on medium settings so its tricky to tell how much better they'd be on high and very high. And the walking around s sudais pointless. Not to mention very Second Life like, think I mentioned that before.
THE exploration aspect of the first game is still there, you droll get the same sense of adventurer from the first game. Also theres was a little hamlet by the beach that had roads that weren't marked, I spent quite a while just driving around there soaking it in.. I'm tempted to butt the first game to compare the two visually :P
The gameplay is solid. Lots of different types of races. Lots of exploring. Lots of multiplayer options. Although most people seem too busy with single player to get into multi right now.
Graphics are OMG! in some places and meh in other places.
Sound doesn't seem to be as good as it could be. For example, in cockpit view, If roll down the windows and/or drop the convertible top, the sound doesn't really change. I don't get wind noise or more engine noise. Seems like a missed opportunity for some easy immersion.
Got my Driving Force GT wheel to work with it, and it's sweet.
THE exploration aspect of the first game is still there, you droll get the same sense of adventurer from the first game. Also theres was a little hamlet by the beach that had roads that weren't marked, I spent quite a while just driving around there soaking it in.. I'm tempted to butt the first game to compare the two visually :P
I was disappointed at first, but I'm coming around to the game more. I've abandoned KB+M and trying to play with a clutch, but I just swapped to my 360 controller and the default controls are better than GT5s were. The environments are fantastic, and I think there's a ton of area to cover as Ibiza looks to be maybe a little bit smaller than Hawaii was in TDU1, but we still have Hawaii after Ibiza. Also the off-road sections are a nice addition since there was a lot of the map that felt unused in TDU1 since parts of it were very mountainy and things that weren't roads didn't really count. The "events" system is a little bit annoying since the event can pop up on the opposite side of the map and you only have 10 minutes to get to it, although once you've driven over most of the island you can probably get yourself pretty close with teleporting. I think there's like, 100 events on the first island I think so it would've been pretty tough to have all those icons up without being an eyesore, so they had to stagger them somehow.
Other than some weird stuff happening in the PC version, like alt-tabbing out and then never being able to open it again and having to kill the task it's definitely fun. The actual racing isn't really better than TDU1, but the lifestyle stuff is what they really seemed to have worked on, it's got a lot more options for customizing the look of your car than TDU1 did (which was something that was very lacking).
Re h: sound
The first game, if you r rolled down the windows the engine noise would get louder. Not so here. They stay the same.
I plan on buying a club tonight, possibly near the beach down south. Money is an issue so I might just drop the dollar for the casino after all
Edit: l also tried the sticker/ paint shop last night. Definitely got the Forza vibe but I'm not sure how much layers it has though.
I'm not sure that it really uses a layer system, it seems to just flatten it, but allows you to put as many stickers on as you want. I was pretty disappointed at the lack of a panda sticker, so I proceeded to make one with two small black circles for ears, a big black circle for the outline of his face, a big white circle for his face, a couple weird squiggles to make his eyes, a u-ish shape for his nose and a checkmark for his mouth. It doesn't look to awful, but it ended up being 12 stickers all stacked on top of each other and it seems to have just turned into like, one giant sticker since I can't find a way to go back and edit any of them other than using undo and going all the way back.
Have you driven in the night Time rain? It looks fantastic with the lightning. Still haven't found any wrecks yet. But then they're isa lot of ground to cover. AndI have to admit, I'm really looking forward to seeing hawaii once again.
I keep on trying to like this game and I'm just underwhelmed at every turn. I can't even enjoy cruising around in peace because JESUS MIAMI HARRIS STOP CALLING ME, I don't want to race for your Godawful abomination Barbie Mustang that I'll never ever be able to sell. How do I change my phone number?
Finally did the first taxi mission so that Todd Bishop would stop harassing me. At least they apparently did away with the bitchiness meter for the passenger that would make you fail the mission if you hit stuff too much? That was by far the worst part of those challenges in the first game.
Bought a Mustang GT. I note that it's modeled wrong - only one exhaust. Sloppy, Eden, sloppy. It seems to handle a little better than the old fastback did. The handling model is passable for just cruising, for actually steering the car in competition it remains sub-par.
Got a "B4" license (which is apparently off-road). I don't really have any desire whatsoever to do off road races, especially since the selection of off-road vehicles in the game is awful. Nothing but luxury SUVs, it seems. Even Blur, which was an all-around terrible game, had a much better array of off-road vehicles...of course, the problem in Blur was that there almost no off-road tracks to use them on and they naturally sucked everywhere else. But the game seems determined to lock me into this linear progression system with licenses and other bullshit, which would be fine in a game like Gran Turismo but if I wanted that I would play fucking Gran Turismo.
In spite of all this I'll probably end up putting a few more hours into the game because I like cars and I get a certain mild enjoyment out of just covering more and more of the island's roads...even if the cars themselves don't look that great, and there aren't really that many of them, and they aren't especially fun to drive, and the scenery is nothing to write home about, and I keep getting interrupted by bad game design decisions.
For, say, $10 I think this game might have been worth it just for that.
I'm really enjoying the game. My only complaint is the cockpit view. In the first is was literally the BEST thing about the game. Now it seems they screwed it up somehow. The interior texture detail doesn't seem to be as good and I feel like I can't see very well.
OK, so apparently the driving gauge for taxi missions is still there, but now there's no timer for them?
So...you could just drive at 5mph the entire way if you felt like it and still succeed?
Oooookay. Still better than the taxi missions from the first game I guess.
Have I mentioned that this is the only game I've played in, say, the last two years (IE since I've had a PC powerful enough to bother playing games on) that causes screen tearing? Guess I may as well turn Vsync on, since I won't be getting more than 60fps anyway!
SUCKS that you can't adjust the in car view, I've heard some are pretty bad, others are ok.
The devs didn't have time to implement that because they were too busy animating the scantily-clad Sims-reject femmedolls at the car wash. Oh, and putting a plastic surgery clinic in the game so you can spend the money you earn to change the appearance of the douchebag-looking avatar you probably never wanted in the first place because just letting you adjust his appearance at the beginning of the game would have made too much sense.
Christ, I bet you get "social" points for going under the knife.
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Sir CarcassI have been shown the end of my worldRound Rock, TXRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
Man, trying something different is the worst thing
Man, trying something different is the worst thing
In the next Tekken game, Namco will try something different by incorporating elements from Japanese dating sims.
Finally, I can take a break from this martial arts tournament crap and get to fulfill my fantasies of romancing Nina Williams! :P
OK bad example, that game would probably actually sell...
Look, I'm not against them trying to do something "different," I'm not even against them trying to flesh out the game with the "luxury lifestyle" stuff. I don't really give a shit about it but I'm sure some people may find it entertaining.
However, before you try something "different" you need to get the fundamentals right: in the case of this style of game, that means good looking cars, good looking environments, fun driving and challenges, freedom to do your own thing and pick how you want to play the game. And TDU2 fails in those fundamentals; it's not even nearly as successful as TDU1.
The graphics are a big cut below the competition, the driving feel is poor, the events thus far are poorly designed and/or uninteresting, the vehicle selection is a substantial step backwards from even TDU1, and the game constantly tries to railroad you into a linear progression of events and character development, a lot of which is dependent on this stuff like the "social" aspects of the game...stuff that would have been OK if they were peripheral things added for giggles that could mostly be ignored. But instead the game badgers you about them, and the developers seem to have invested their time and effort on them when the core elements of the game that I think most people bought it for have taken a big step backwards.
And all of this is setting aside the bugs and technical issues, like people not being able to get their wheels to work, lots of people reporting the game doesn't support SLI/crossfire, the PS3 servers apparently constantly crashing, etc...
I like that I'm not just a faceless driver. I like that the game gives me things to do (the phone calls you whine about) when I'm just driving around. And when I do want to just drive around without distraction I just push b when a phone call comes in, which isn't even that often for me. 3 or 4 hours in and I get a call maybe once every 20 minutes and each one is only telling me about something I didn't know about so maybe they get even less later in the game.
And holy shit, they put in somewhat practical way to change what my driver looks like when I want to, death to the developers!!!!
Calm down, stop playing if you don't like it and stop 'spergin
I like that the game gives me things to do (the phone calls you whine about) when I'm just driving around. And when I do want to just drive around without distraction I just push b when a phone call comes in, which isn't even that often for me. 3 or 4 hours in and I get a call maybe once every 20 minutes and each one is only telling me about something I didn't know about so maybe they get even less later in the game.
Four hours in for me and they're already the same calls over and over until I finally give in and do what they want.
And holy shit, they put in somewhat practical way to change what my driver looks like when I want to
Wouldn't it have been a lot more practical and made a lot more sense to just let you adjust the way your character looks at the beginning of the game? I wouldn't mind the plastic surgeon as an excuse for how you can change your look if you feel like it later, but when it's the only option? And when I'm continually harassed about doing it to progress in an area of the game I don't care about? And when they had time for stuff like this but not to get any of the game's basics right? Yeah, that pisses me off.
Calm down, stop playing if you don't like it and stop 'spergin
This is a discussion thread. People are talking about what they think of the game. I obviously don't think much of it. I'm not raging about it. $40 isn't much in the grand scheme of things. I'm disappointed, yes, but at this point I'm more shaking my head and almost amused at how a game could fail like this on almost every level. I've been playing it for a while to give it a chance and decide how I feel about it and writing my thoughts down here helps me do that, and may possibly also help other people reading make an informed decision on whether to get the game depending on whether they have tastes and priorities similar to mine. If you like the game, me posting about how I don't like it certainly isn't going to affect your enjoyment of it any way. As for quitting, I expect that I almost certainly will stop playing and uninstall the game within a couple more hours, unless I find myself very bored, although I may hold out and see if there's a patch to fix wheel support just so I can see how it works with my wheel from morbid curiosity.
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HardtargetThere Are Four LightsVancouverRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
you gotta stop ragin gaslight, the game is super fun
ya, game plays great with a gamepad. if you have a 360 pad use that instead of a wheel on the PC,
As I've said in my previous posts, I am using a 360 pad because my wheel doesn't work.
oh and play in Sport mode.
I am. I can only imagine the horrors that "hardcore" mode holds.
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HardtargetThere Are Four LightsVancouverRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
gaslight, stop being a baby, win the mustang, buy a bigger house so you have space for it, do the 3 drivers tests, and run a couple tournaments. as soon as you do that the game opens up, nobody ever calls you unless it's to tell you a new thing, and you can do whatever you want. it's quite fun once you get past the first couple hours where stuff is spooned to you
Look guys, if you like it, then great, I don't take pleasure in other people feeling like they wasted their money just because I do. For me the game is a disappointment or an annoyance in every respect and I obviously wouldn't recommend it to anybody.
I'm going to keep playing Hot Pursuit when I feel like an arcade racer and looking forward to Shift 2 for a real enthusiast car-nut game, and hope that someday, somehow, someone gets the "MOOR" concept right. Motor City Online I never played, but from what I've heard never lived up to its potential. TDU1 was pretty good but flawed. TDU2 is in my opinion an abortion.
I'm sure I've made that very clear and since I can see how people would get tired of having to read my thoughts on it, I'll say no more about it.
I actually went to the car wash and couldn't stop laughing. The cosmetic surgery bit too, given that strangers were asking for my help when I looked like this fror a good 20 minutes or so.
I also found 3 wrecks. They're actually not too dificult to find surprisingly. Sort of out of the way areas but it's places where you'll see a gate is open and want to go explore. One of them was near an area full of ruins I just wanted to check out.
SO apparently I've played 3 hours. Unlocked the drive 124miles cheevo and washed my Mustang at a car wash that's surely illegal.
Its unfortunate you don't like the game gaslight, admittedly I'd be pretty pissed too if I had half the problems you're having.
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edit: Whether or not it caused this, this is the fix:
Remove the key entry for steam.exe (right hand side) under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers
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I like my muscle cars dammit! Its a GT and it's so good. Handling is much improved over the Fastback. The cockpit view feels better too. I've just been driving around checking the scenery. Its good. Night time driving was cool, started raining too.
All in all, completely pleased with my purchase and I'm running it on medium settings with the occasional slowdown (system issue sadly, need to upgrade).
Got through the first championship, which is pretty dull. Not much of a challenge once I accepted that I needed to get out and push the car through the tighter corners and yet could still beat the AI. Bought all the bronze upgrades for my '68 pony. Dressed up my avatar a little bit. Sadly, nothing the fashion shops or hairdressers have to offer will make him look like less of a douche.
Whoever thought the first-person menu system was a good idea should be taken out and shot.
It really pains me to disagree with Big Isy so much because I think he's a real gent, but even setting aside all of the release shenanigans and bugs, nothing about this game impresses me so far at all. I could at least enjoy cruising around if the visuals were up to snuff, but to me the game is nothing special at all from a visual standpoint. NFS Hot Pursuit has much better rendered scenery for just driving around. Of course, Hot Pursuit has no in-car view so if that's a make-or-break thing then obviously TDU2 is your game but the car interiors themselves look very plain to me. All in all TDU2 looks decidedly dated in my opinion, really only a marginal improvement from what I remember of the first game.
DLC-only at this point are the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Grand Sport Sang Bleu and Centenaire, Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano China Edition, and Nissan 370Z Optional Parts. Those are the ones we know of so far - all of them are now tagged as "DLC" in the official car list, where they had no such tag prior to today.
Additionally, for whatever reason the Spyker C8 Aileron coupe is not available in the PC and PS3 versions and the Ferrari 458 Italia is not in the 360 version, although I thought I had heard something about those two being prizes for the respective versions of the casino DLC.
Real shame. Granted I don't recall them being in the first game either but it never hurts to hope.
Damn good car.
Also, I doubled my money on slots this morning before going to work. The casino rocks.
Although the poker room has been vacant every time I've peeked in. Maybe we need a PA TDU2 poker night.
My project for today is finding the classic Beetle.
PSN: Beltaine-77 | Steam: beltane77 | Battle.net BadHaggis#1433
The gameplay is solid. Lots of different types of races. Lots of exploring. Lots of multiplayer options. Although most people seem too busy with single player to get into multi right now.
Graphics are OMG! in some places and meh in other places.
Sound doesn't seem to be as good as it could be. For example, in cockpit view, If roll down the windows and/or drop the convertible top, the sound doesn't really change. I don't get wind noise or more engine noise. Seems like a missed opportunity for some easy immersion.
Got my Driving Force GT wheel to work with it, and it's sweet.
PSN: Beltaine-77 | Steam: beltane77 | Battle.net BadHaggis#1433
Your phones autocomplete is something else.
Re h: sound
The first game, if you r rolled down the windows the engine noise would get louder. Not so here. They stay the same.
I plan on buying a club tonight, possibly near the beach down south. Money is an issue so I might just drop the dollar for the casino after all
Edit: l also tried the sticker/ paint shop last night. Definitely got the Forza vibe but I'm not sure how much layers it has though.
PSN: Beltaine-77 | Steam: beltane77 | Battle.net BadHaggis#1433
800 "Atari Tokens" which is $10 in real money. Same as microsoft points.
I don't thinki can spend that much on dlc. I guess I'll just make money the old fashioned way.
I was disappointed at first, but I'm coming around to the game more. I've abandoned KB+M and trying to play with a clutch, but I just swapped to my 360 controller and the default controls are better than GT5s were. The environments are fantastic, and I think there's a ton of area to cover as Ibiza looks to be maybe a little bit smaller than Hawaii was in TDU1, but we still have Hawaii after Ibiza. Also the off-road sections are a nice addition since there was a lot of the map that felt unused in TDU1 since parts of it were very mountainy and things that weren't roads didn't really count. The "events" system is a little bit annoying since the event can pop up on the opposite side of the map and you only have 10 minutes to get to it, although once you've driven over most of the island you can probably get yourself pretty close with teleporting. I think there's like, 100 events on the first island I think so it would've been pretty tough to have all those icons up without being an eyesore, so they had to stagger them somehow.
Other than some weird stuff happening in the PC version, like alt-tabbing out and then never being able to open it again and having to kill the task it's definitely fun. The actual racing isn't really better than TDU1, but the lifestyle stuff is what they really seemed to have worked on, it's got a lot more options for customizing the look of your car than TDU1 did (which was something that was very lacking).
I'm not sure that it really uses a layer system, it seems to just flatten it, but allows you to put as many stickers on as you want. I was pretty disappointed at the lack of a panda sticker, so I proceeded to make one with two small black circles for ears, a big black circle for the outline of his face, a big white circle for his face, a couple weird squiggles to make his eyes, a u-ish shape for his nose and a checkmark for his mouth. It doesn't look to awful, but it ended up being 12 stickers all stacked on top of each other and it seems to have just turned into like, one giant sticker since I can't find a way to go back and edit any of them other than using undo and going all the way back.
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Finally did the first taxi mission so that Todd Bishop would stop harassing me. At least they apparently did away with the bitchiness meter for the passenger that would make you fail the mission if you hit stuff too much? That was by far the worst part of those challenges in the first game.
Bought a Mustang GT. I note that it's modeled wrong - only one exhaust. Sloppy, Eden, sloppy. It seems to handle a little better than the old fastback did. The handling model is passable for just cruising, for actually steering the car in competition it remains sub-par.
Got a "B4" license (which is apparently off-road). I don't really have any desire whatsoever to do off road races, especially since the selection of off-road vehicles in the game is awful. Nothing but luxury SUVs, it seems. Even Blur, which was an all-around terrible game, had a much better array of off-road vehicles...of course, the problem in Blur was that there almost no off-road tracks to use them on and they naturally sucked everywhere else. But the game seems determined to lock me into this linear progression system with licenses and other bullshit, which would be fine in a game like Gran Turismo but if I wanted that I would play fucking Gran Turismo.
In spite of all this I'll probably end up putting a few more hours into the game because I like cars and I get a certain mild enjoyment out of just covering more and more of the island's roads...even if the cars themselves don't look that great, and there aren't really that many of them, and they aren't especially fun to drive, and the scenery is nothing to write home about, and I keep getting interrupted by bad game design decisions.
For, say, $10 I think this game might have been worth it just for that.
For the $40 I paid? No way.
Other than that I love it.
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So...you could just drive at 5mph the entire way if you felt like it and still succeed?
Oooookay. Still better than the taxi missions from the first game I guess.
Have I mentioned that this is the only game I've played in, say, the last two years (IE since I've had a PC powerful enough to bother playing games on) that causes screen tearing? Guess I may as well turn Vsync on, since I won't be getting more than 60fps anyway!
I'll probably still break down and get it when it's a bit cheaper.
SUCKS that you can't adjust the in car view, I've heard some are pretty bad, others are ok.
The devs didn't have time to implement that because they were too busy animating the scantily-clad Sims-reject femmedolls at the car wash. Oh, and putting a plastic surgery clinic in the game so you can spend the money you earn to change the appearance of the douchebag-looking avatar you probably never wanted in the first place because just letting you adjust his appearance at the beginning of the game would have made too much sense.
Christ, I bet you get "social" points for going under the knife.
In the next Tekken game, Namco will try something different by incorporating elements from Japanese dating sims.
Finally, I can take a break from this martial arts tournament crap and get to fulfill my fantasies of romancing Nina Williams! :P
Look, I'm not against them trying to do something "different," I'm not even against them trying to flesh out the game with the "luxury lifestyle" stuff. I don't really give a shit about it but I'm sure some people may find it entertaining.
However, before you try something "different" you need to get the fundamentals right: in the case of this style of game, that means good looking cars, good looking environments, fun driving and challenges, freedom to do your own thing and pick how you want to play the game. And TDU2 fails in those fundamentals; it's not even nearly as successful as TDU1.
The graphics are a big cut below the competition, the driving feel is poor, the events thus far are poorly designed and/or uninteresting, the vehicle selection is a substantial step backwards from even TDU1, and the game constantly tries to railroad you into a linear progression of events and character development, a lot of which is dependent on this stuff like the "social" aspects of the game...stuff that would have been OK if they were peripheral things added for giggles that could mostly be ignored. But instead the game badgers you about them, and the developers seem to have invested their time and effort on them when the core elements of the game that I think most people bought it for have taken a big step backwards.
And all of this is setting aside the bugs and technical issues, like people not being able to get their wheels to work, lots of people reporting the game doesn't support SLI/crossfire, the PS3 servers apparently constantly crashing, etc...
I like that I'm not just a faceless driver. I like that the game gives me things to do (the phone calls you whine about) when I'm just driving around. And when I do want to just drive around without distraction I just push b when a phone call comes in, which isn't even that often for me. 3 or 4 hours in and I get a call maybe once every 20 minutes and each one is only telling me about something I didn't know about so maybe they get even less later in the game.
And holy shit, they put in somewhat practical way to change what my driver looks like when I want to, death to the developers!!!!
Calm down, stop playing if you don't like it and stop 'spergin
Clearly.
Four hours in for me and they're already the same calls over and over until I finally give in and do what they want.
Wouldn't it have been a lot more practical and made a lot more sense to just let you adjust the way your character looks at the beginning of the game? I wouldn't mind the plastic surgeon as an excuse for how you can change your look if you feel like it later, but when it's the only option? And when I'm continually harassed about doing it to progress in an area of the game I don't care about? And when they had time for stuff like this but not to get any of the game's basics right? Yeah, that pisses me off.
This is a discussion thread. People are talking about what they think of the game. I obviously don't think much of it. I'm not raging about it. $40 isn't much in the grand scheme of things. I'm disappointed, yes, but at this point I'm more shaking my head and almost amused at how a game could fail like this on almost every level. I've been playing it for a while to give it a chance and decide how I feel about it and writing my thoughts down here helps me do that, and may possibly also help other people reading make an informed decision on whether to get the game depending on whether they have tastes and priorities similar to mine. If you like the game, me posting about how I don't like it certainly isn't going to affect your enjoyment of it any way. As for quitting, I expect that I almost certainly will stop playing and uninstall the game within a couple more hours, unless I find myself very bored, although I may hold out and see if there's a patch to fix wheel support just so I can see how it works with my wheel from morbid curiosity.
After trying the wheel on the 360 version, don't try it gaslight. It'll just make you rage harder.
As I've said in my previous posts, I am using a 360 pad because my wheel doesn't work.
I am. I can only imagine the horrors that "hardcore" mode holds.
I'm going to keep playing Hot Pursuit when I feel like an arcade racer and looking forward to Shift 2 for a real enthusiast car-nut game, and hope that someday, somehow, someone gets the "MOOR" concept right. Motor City Online I never played, but from what I've heard never lived up to its potential. TDU1 was pretty good but flawed. TDU2 is in my opinion an abortion.
I'm sure I've made that very clear and since I can see how people would get tired of having to read my thoughts on it, I'll say no more about it.
I also found 3 wrecks. They're actually not too dificult to find surprisingly. Sort of out of the way areas but it's places where you'll see a gate is open and want to go explore. One of them was near an area full of ruins I just wanted to check out.
SO apparently I've played 3 hours. Unlocked the drive 124miles cheevo and washed my Mustang at a car wash that's surely illegal.
Its unfortunate you don't like the game gaslight, admittedly I'd be pretty pissed too if I had half the problems you're having.