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Help me not feel like an ass.

ins0mniacins0mniac Registered User regular
edited February 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
So my girlfriend and i just broke up. We'd been together for about a year and a half.. And i feel like an asshole.

First off, i'm 22, she's 25. I just moved out of my moms house about 8 months ago. She's been married, lived overseas for 5 years, and has a 3 year old son. We work together at the same restaurant. What initially started off as a booty call eventually led to real feelings. Feelings that are still present.

The problem with our relationship is that we are in two different places right now. I'm just learning how to live on my own and develop the kind of life that I want to live. She's ready for a family. Not like having more kids or anything, but a more... Consistent type of relationship and commitment that I'm not ready to provide yet.

She goes to school, works full time, and takes care of her WONDERFUL 3 year old son pretty much by herself.
I've had the privilege of being a part of his life and grown to love him very very much. But, dating someone older than me (not just a number, in terms of life experiences) with a child presents certain issues. Her son is her first priority, as it should be. I've never once asked her to compromise when it comes to that. But in general, our relationship consists of staying at her house and not really doing anything. She can't come to my apartment and hang out, or really go out more than once a month due to school or work or inability to find a babysitter. Her mother or my sisters have in the past, but she doesn't like the feeling of "pawning" him off on others. She takes a lot of pride in being a mother, and I admire so much about her for that. I know she would make a great mother for the children I will eventually have some day.

Physically, we connect very well, and in general have great sex. Emotionally, we are pretty in tune with each other. But in terms of maturity... I'm a young 22 and she's and old 25. Everything new to me is old news for her. She understands a lot of it, like finding myself and my independence, but still doesn't necessarily like it. And its a reoccurring issue for us. We both understand that its going to be a while before I can commit the way that she wants so she doesn't feel "unfufilled". Her immediate family has undergone some severe changes in the past year, all resulting from the rather sudden passing of her father to ALS. So that's thrown her for a loop, and feels she needs to rectify that somehow.

I feel really guilty that I cant give her what she wants. I know that I could, but at the expense of being able to really experience life on my own. It has nothing to do with the desire to be single, I wish more than anything that I could experience it all with her. But in her own words "I can't go back and live your life with you". And I reply "so I should just jump ahead and live in yours?"

My issues with our relationship have really been bugging me lately. I don't have a typical girlfriend that I get to go out and enjoy things with. It's a very contained and controlled type of relationship. We don't get to be spontaneous, don't get to just do NOTHING for an evening, and it just kinda sucks. I see the relationships that my roomates have with their girlfriends and it makes me wish I could have that with her. But I cant

So in summation, I love this girl very much, but we are in two different places in life that often causes problems.
And I feel like an asshole for ending the relationship, even though we both agree its probably the most logical thing to do, as she's no closer to having the family she wants by waiting around for me to be ready. We are just both really hurting right now because there are still a lot of feelings that we have for each other.

I would just really like an outside, objective perspective. My family and friends all agree with the decision that r made that its for the best, but it doesn't make it any easier...

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    No matter how compatible you are with someone physically, if what you want out of the relationship doesn't jive with what she wants it's not going to work.

    You'll either end up alienating her because you want all of those growing up experiences, or developing resentment that you didn't get to do those growing up things.

    Sorry duder

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    You made the right decision and have nothing to feel like an ass about. When you're ready to date again ask your friends if they can set you up with one of their gf's friends and see where dating girls your age in a similar social circle goes.

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  • ins0mniacins0mniac Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I definitely agree with all that. But it kinda feels like we are selling ourselves short. We've had this discussion numerous times and come to the conclusion that the only thing that makes sense is to stop seeing each others. But we just kind of brush it under the rug until it become an issue again in a month or two. We've tried changing up HOW we spend our time together, the frequency, everything. She's tried to lighten up a lot, and she has, but is still pretty wound tight because of everything on her plate. And more often than not, I'm the outlet for her stress. Which sucks, but I'd rather it be me than her son or her mother, who just lost her husband about a year ago.

    And aside from her son, I'm one of the few things she gets to really enjoy. And I feel like I'm taking that away from her for somewhat selfish reasons. As she said, I gain a lot by breaking up, and she's only left with less. However, I lose out on two people that I love, not just one. And I feel incredibly guilty that I'm probably not going to be a presence in her sons life anymore. I only saw him once a week for the past 6+ months now, but even so. His dad lives overseas and has for the entirety of his life, however will be moving to the states in May to a house about an hour away.

    So theoretically he should help relieve her of some of the stress of Childcare, but nonetheless, there are still the other issues present.

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Are you trying to convince us, or yourself?

    She'll survive, so will her son. Get on with your life.

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  • ins0mniacins0mniac Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Little from column a, a little from column b.

    I just don't like the thought of "abandoning" them. We ended things amicably, saying we will still be friends and everything. I mean, we work together and she will probably still be my sisters bridesmaid for her wedding. There are no ill feelings towards each other, which would make things easier if she just hated me, or vice versa.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    ins0mniac wrote: »
    I definitely agree with all that. But it kinda feels like we are selling ourselves short. We've had this discussion numerous times and come to the conclusion that the only thing that makes sense is to stop seeing each others. But we just kind of brush it under the rug until it become an issue again in a month or two. We've tried changing up HOW we spend our time together, the frequency, everything. She's tried to lighten up a lot, and she has, but is still pretty wound tight because of everything on her plate. And more often than not, I'm the outlet for her stress. Which sucks, but I'd rather it be me than her son or her mother, who just lost her husband about a year ago.

    And aside from her son, I'm one of the few things she gets to really enjoy. And I feel like I'm taking that away from her for somewhat selfish reasons. As she said, I gain a lot by breaking up, and she's only left with less. However, I lose out on two people that I love, not just one. And I feel incredibly guilty that I'm probably not going to be a presence in her sons life anymore. I only saw him once a week for the past 6+ months now, but even so. His dad lives overseas and has for the entirety of his life, however will be moving to the states in May to a house about an hour away.

    So theoretically he should help relieve her of some of the stress of Childcare, but nonetheless, there are still the other issues present.

    To be honest, it really isn't your job to white knight for her.

    It's also not your job to raise her kid that you see maybe once a week.

    Also, she shouldn't be using you as an outlet for her stress much less anyone else. She needs to find a healthy way of dealing with it that doesn't involve taking it out on others, whatever that may be.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    You did the right thing and for the right reasons.

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    ins0mniac wrote: »
    Little from column a, a little from column b.

    I just don't like the thought of "abandoning" them. We ended things amicably, saying we will still be friends and everything. I mean, we work together and she will probably still be my sisters bridesmaid for her wedding. There are no ill feelings towards each other, which would make things easier if she just hated me, or vice versa.

    So you'd be more comfortable sacrificing your desire for youthful shenanigans and awesome life experiences to sit on her couch just so she can be slightly less stressed out?

    She made it work before you, she'll make it work after you go.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Usagi wrote: »
    ins0mniac wrote: »
    Little from column a, a little from column b.

    I just don't like the thought of "abandoning" them. We ended things amicably, saying we will still be friends and everything. I mean, we work together and she will probably still be my sisters bridesmaid for her wedding. There are no ill feelings towards each other, which would make things easier if she just hated me, or vice versa.

    So you'd be more comfortable sacrificing your desire for youthful shenanigans and awesome life experiences to sit on her couch just so she can be slightly less stressed out?

    She made it work before you, she'll make it work after you go.

    And then when they inevitably break up down the road it's a disaster and not the amicable break up they're having now.

    Usagi is spot on, she'll be fine.

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  • ins0mniacins0mniac Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I know.. But this catholic guilt on my conscience is a lot to handle. Like how she tells me she's never loved anyone as purely or completely as she does me.. And can't imagine ever being with letting someone touch her. I know these are common feelings to have, maybe doubly so for women, but it really digs at me because she has body image issues since she's had her son, but trust me, she is naturally gorgeous and has a wonderful body. It took a long time for me to break down those walls she put up. And now I know she's just gonna put them back stronger and taller than before.

    And what I feel MOST guilty about is that I know I'll be fine. There is a larger part of me that is somewhat relieved and know this is better for me, than there is a part that still wants to be with her. So I know this is right but still. I know she loves me very much, and I kinda feel like I'm just saying "nah I'm good I'm gonna go play mario with my roommates instead".

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I don't mean to be harsh but

    Get over it

    It'll probably take a while, but eventually you'll realize that this was the right decision for both of you

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Usagi wrote: »
    I don't mean to be harsh but

    Get over it

    It'll probably take a while, but eventually you'll realize that this was the right decision for both of you

    Kid, and yes you are a kid still, don't worry about it. She's a grown ass woman who made the decision to get married and have a baby and it's not your problem.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Sticking around because you don't want to make her and her son feel bad would just lead to you feeling a ton of resentment down the road, which would likely manifest itself by you either being terrible to them, or walking out on them.

    You did the best thing for not only yourself, but also them.

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  • DekuStickDekuStick Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    If anything, take her situation and put yourself in it. That is what happens a LOT to young couples who move too fast too soon. Don't make the same mistakes.

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  • Reverend_ChaosReverend_Chaos Suit Up! Spokane WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    As you stated you are in two different places in life. Even though though you both love each other, that is not enough. You need to go live your life. You are being very honest with her and yourself. I know you want to make it work, but there is no magic button for this. I would break up, be amicable, and go live your life. She can't change the fact that she has a kid, and you can't change where you are at in you life. (I don't want to say maturity level because it sounds like you are being immature, which I don't think is the case)

    It's like having a limb with gangrene, the longer you drag it out, the worse it's going to be. You know what you have to do. Do it sooner rather than later.

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  • ins0mniacins0mniac Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I appreciate all the replies and advice, everyone. It reaffirms for me what I know to be true.

    It's rough right now, but I know it will get better. We've talked a few times and seemed to be pretty ok with each other, its just that for both of us we have to "shut off" a rather large portion of our lives that has been pretty routine for almost 2 years.

    She is now in the "looking back" phase, where she is noting mistakes, both of ours, and saying she was "doing alot of analyzing of her behavior, and may have figured something out", and wanted me to come over after I got out of work. And I know that this guilt I'm feeling right now would make me say "ok lets try again" when I know that I don't really want to because we're just going to end up in the same place, or even worse.

    I told her that I had homework to do, (which is completely true) and that I think it's best that we take our space for right now. Let the sting lessen a little bit. I don't think she wanted to hear that, but I think that's the stance I need to take? I don't know.

    Anyway.

    Thanks for the advice everyone.

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  • KazakaKazaka Asleep Counting SheepRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    ins0mniac wrote: »
    I appreciate all the replies and advice, everyone. It reaffirms for me what I know to be true.

    It's rough right now, but I know it will get better. We've talked a few times and seemed to be pretty ok with each other, its just that for both of us we have to "shut off" a rather large portion of our lives that has been pretty routine for almost 2 years.

    She is now in the "looking back" phase, where she is noting mistakes, both of ours, and saying she was "doing alot of analyzing of her behavior, and may have figured something out", and wanted me to come over after I got out of work. And I know that this guilt I'm feeling right now would make me say "ok lets try again" when I know that I don't really want to because we're just going to end up in the same place, or even worse.

    I told her that I had homework to do, (which is completely true) and that I think it's best that we take our space for right now. Let the sting lessen a little bit. I don't think she wanted to hear that, but I think that's the stance I need to take? I don't know.

    Anyway.

    Thanks for the advice everyone.
    That was a smart move, champ.
    Dodged a bullet.

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  • bustin98bustin98 Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Sounds like you have things figured out. Everyone is of agreement on your course of action.

    Words of caution though: the heart wants what the heart wants.

    You may end up 'rubberbanding' the relationship. Meaning you go back and forth until it sticks or it snaps. Both of you guys are young and not as experienced as you might think (referring to her). You are breaking up not because you are over each other, but rather some inconveniences of the relationship. So this means the longing and the desires are still there, you are forcing yourself to hide those feelings, which isn't really healthy.

    Look, she choose to be with you as much as you choose to be with her. She has to accept you and your lifestyle as much as you accept hers. Does that mean you don't do couple things because of her son? Yep, but guess what: married people with kids do that all the time. Does it mean you miss out on experiences? Depends on how you look at it and what you think makes a relationship work. Communication and trust are the key factors. As long as the love is there and you talk and make compromises both ways, things will work out.

    Keep in mind too that she is still finding out who she is. Just because she's been through some shit, doesn't mean she'll be the same person in 10 years that she is now. You, on the other hand, probably won't change too much. There's a reason for the saying 'Women marry thinking they'll change the man, and men marry thinking the woman will never change'. Men rarely change, and women certainly do.

    I hate to say it, but I don't think you've found what YOU need to really break up. Don't play mind games with her or yourself. While in the long run it might be for the best, if you force it off, you will forever look back and curse yourself for letting her go without really knowing why you did because your perspective changed.

    I feel odd going against the grain, but I have loved and lost many times over the years, and your current situation isn't exactly unique. I really just want you to look at the situation with another point of view. Don't do anything you aren't comfortable with, and in the end, go with your gut.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2011
    Nonsense. Don't look back, don't drink from that well again. For her sake and yours, ignore the madness that bustin is advising and just move on. If years later you're pining for someone from the past it doesn't mean you should have been together, it means you're wasting your time reflecting on a rosy memory of what wasn't instead of dealing with the present and looking to the future.

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  • Katsuhiro 1139Katsuhiro 1139 Dublin, IrelandRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    You, without hesitation, without doubt in my mind, did the right thing.

    I did the same thing last year - while my ex was neither married nor had a child, she was (i) 5 years older than me and (ii) was my supervisor in my previous department (before we started dating). She was just on the cusp of turning 30, and I was about to turn 25. While she was wonderful, intelligent and driven, she told me she loved me 3 months into the relationship, and I felt that velvet cage slam down with an abrupt crash.

    Then I started thinking.

    What if I wanted kids? Well I'd be 32 or so by then, and she'd be 37.... and so forth. This made me realise that no matter how much you might like the girl, some people are - inescapably - at different points in their lives.

    So we've established you did the right thing. How do we ease the guilt of being the dumper?

    Exercise. Hang out with your lad friends. Do each and every single growing up experience you want (and indeed need) to do. Realise that you had reasons, and those reasons were good ones. Live your life man, and while you should always appreciate what you had - don't ever let it stop from looking ahead.

    The future's yours for the taking.

    Good luck mate!

    - Kat

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