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My 360 RRODd - should I get one of the new models?

poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
edited February 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
My 360 RRODd today - 3 quarters. It hasn't recovered since.

To be honest, I never bothered following this much when the 360 came out. I've had it about 4 or 5 years, so even the 3-year-extension of the warranty for RRODs won't help.

Now I could get it repaired, but that seems, from my googling, to be expensive and unreliable.

So I'm thinking of getting one of those new ones. To my surprise, they only seem to come in 250gb and 4gb versions. I don't download movies or Games on Demand - my 20gb HDD on this one is just saves, Live Arcade titles and one installed to HD game. I've heard that the new ones are very quiet, but I don't know if it's quiet enough that I wouldn't want to install to the HD any more.

I guess there are add-on HDDs for the 4gb new version.

So what does H&A think? New one or repair?

Oh, I live in Japan if that matters, though I doubt it does.

I figure I could take a bear.
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  • shadowaneshadowane Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    It's $100 to repair it and you get a new 1 year warranty if you do decide to go that route.

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  • poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Oh yeah - one more thing - how does it work with my account, Live Arcade games and saves if I buy a new one?

    I remember reading there were troubles with that sort of thing back when RROD was a hot topic.

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    I figure I could take a bear.
  • LankyseanLankysean Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I got one of them new 250gb models after my last Xbox RROD'd... it's very quite if you are running a game from the hard drive but can get a little noisy when its spinning a disc. The new slim Xbox also have built in wireless unlike the older one so that's also a plus.

    I don't know how much you've looked into the new model but I've read a few people say that they cannot RROD, which while technically true it isn't what it seems. Simply put, the new Xbox doesn't have any red color LEDs, so the error can still happen, you just won't get a red ring.

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    The new 250gb models are amazing. I've had three in the lifetime, and this new one is by far the quietest, most stable and fully functional.

    I'd be careful of the 4gb, as that's a painfully small amount of storage. I had a 20gb previously and was urged to upgrade because my game saves alone had me down to about 500mb of free space. The 250 is nice, as even if you don't download a lot of games, you can install tons and not have to worry about uninstalling/re-installing over and over again. I've also begun using the "Games on Demand" store and have been immensely happy to pick up a few older titles digitally, from my couch and have them ready to play in a short while.

    You can recover your gamertag. It's pretty simple, actually. You'll want to grab hold of a transfer cable to move everything from the old HDD to the new one.

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  • brain operatorbrain operator Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Definitely new one rather than repair. I'd say second hand if you can find one though (no idea about the market for 2nd hand 360s in Japan), since in that case you can simply put your old hard drive in the new second hand box and it should be considerably cheaper. That said, I feel that a new one is still cheap enough not to bother with the hit and miss lottery of getting it repaired outside warranty.

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  • BoomShakeBoomShake The Engineer Columbia, MDRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Get a new one.

    The chances of a RROD happening are very slim due to motherboard revisions. The original 360 had a 90nm cpu and a 90nm gpu, which was like having two bonfires in a confined space; the motherboard warped and, due to the way the chips were mounted and secured, hairline cracks and whanot happened easily. Now they're significantly smaller than that and on the same die, so both power and heat generation are way down. Also, as a result, it doesn't sound like a jet engine taking off anymore.

    You're out of the warranty and it will be annoying and a considerable portion of the cost of just getting a new machine.

    Hard Drive:
    The new slims are not compatible with the old hard drives and vice versa. It is a much more cost effective to buy it bundled with the hard drive than to get one later. You will find some cheaper non-MS brand hard drives that claim compatibility, but you will be taking a risk of getting banned from XBL. The 4GB is way too small for all of the save games and arcade titles. Additionally, it the 4GB is INCOMPATIBLE with certain games and features, such as Halo Reach online coop.

    Here's how to Move/Recover your Gamertag on a new console (go to the recover section)
    and
    Migrate your XBL Arcade licences - NOTE: For this one, you'll have to check whether the licence transfer tool requires the first xbox to be working (I don't think it does, but since you can only do it once ever 12months, I'm not going to try it just to see how it works).

    This bundle is only $299 - 250GB, headset and controller, Alan Wake, Forza 3, 1 month Gold XBL

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  • OnTheLastCastleOnTheLastCastle let's keep it haimish for the peripatetic Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    The Slims are great and very stable. I would upgrade to one.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I just picked up a 250gb Slim with the Kinect and I love it. You'll definitely want the HD for installing your games too. Makes for a much quieter experience. The 4gb won't last you long at all.

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  • InitialDKInitialDK Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    How convenient, my 360 from 2006 just RRoD last night and I was going to make the same topic.

    I'm always more inclined to just upgrade but my wife wanted to make sure I did some research first.
    We've been weighing the pros/cons of getting a refurbished Elite versus the Slim, $100 difference.
    All the reviews are 50/50 of the refurbished ones. I would hate to go through the process of having it shipped and then having to return it again due to shoddy parts or risk having it fail again a year from now.

    It seems the fine folks of PA seem to agree that upgrading is the best route.

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    -Louis C.K.
  • XenoXeno Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    It is possible to take apart your 360 HDD and put that into a slim if you want to. Would save you about 100 bucks. Doesn't seem too complicated to do.

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  • LaPuzzaLaPuzza Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Well hello, me from three months ago! I'd just like to tell you that your decision to purchase a 360s was very, very smart. You never regretted it. You didn't ever break open the old HD or use the the USB drive option, however, and instead sprung for the official 250GB and transfer kit (used from Gamestop). Nice work.

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  • Geek LordGeek Lord Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    After my first gen 360 (purchased early 2006, not more than 3-400 hours of playtime) RROD'ed over the holidays and being obviously out of warranty, I decided to try out ifixit.com's RROD fix kit. It worked! For 30$, I think it's worth considering if you don't mind getting surgical.

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  • illigillig Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    If you're at all handy with a screwdriver, then try fixing it yourself first.

    For about $5 in parts (basically bolts, nuts and shims) you can usually fix a RROD yourself.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Don't consider this a purchase, consider it a 3-year lease.

    I'm not saying it's a bad decision to buy a new one (when this inevitably happens to me, I'm totally getting a new one), just don't expect it to outlast the warranty by much.

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  • InitialDKInitialDK Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    After trying a dozen stores, mix of big box and game stores, I finally found a 250gb NON-Kinect bundle Slim at Sam's Club.

    A manager at Gamestop told me Microsoft isn't making non-Kinect bundles right now but I tend to not trust Gamestop employees (especially this particular location). If that's true that's insanity. I already own a Kinect and I'm sure I'm not the only customer in this situation.

    Though it sucks to shell out this money I'm excited to have upgraded. I've been using 20gb up to this point and it was getting dire. Especially since DLC is getting up to a GB and higher, at least the Mass Effect 2 one's were.

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    "I'd happily trade your life for knowledge of my powers."
    -Louis C.K.
  • poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Yeah it looks like I'll pick up a slim 250. Then I can have some space to buy Games on Demand with! Dammit, double money-sink.

    Now, I can re-download my Live Arcade games, right? And DLC? So, is the transfer cable thing just for my saves or what?

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    I figure I could take a bear.
  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    The transfer cable is a pretty useful device, regardless of the issue. I have a used one around that I'd be willing to ship off to you if promise to pass it on, again, after!

    Games on Demand is pretty awesome, but it's still in the infancy stages. I've been sticking to the $20-30 games which is close enough to used retail to not make me cringe. My closest Gamestop is a bit far, so it's nice to be able to download. When they begin, in earnest, doing digital/physical releases simultaneously it'll be even more worthwhile as it's the same $60 regardless of where you go.

    The other option for transferring saves/games is to just buy a few gigs on a stick and format it for the xbox. You get the added bonus of a memory stick with the small hassle of it being a little more of a process.

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  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha The pen is mightier than the sword http://youtu.be/G_sBOsh-vyIRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    InitialDK wrote: »
    After trying a dozen stores, mix of big box and game stores, I finally found a 250gb NON-Kinect bundle Slim at Sam's Club.

    A manager at Gamestop told me Microsoft isn't making non-Kinect bundles right now but I tend to not trust Gamestop employees (especially this particular location). If that's true that's insanity. I already own a Kinect and I'm sure I'm not the only customer in this situation.

    Though it sucks to shell out this money I'm excited to have upgraded. I've been using 20gb up to this point and it was getting dire. Especially since DLC is getting up to a GB and higher, at least the Mass Effect 2 one's were.


    BOLD FACED LIE! I'm personally pleased with my slim after my NTSJ 360 died.

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  • DeathwingDeathwing Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Yeah, my local Gamestop tried to tell me that right around Christmas too - got a 250gb non-Kinect bundle just fine from Newegg, though.

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