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Study abroad making me miserable

Hank_ScorpioHank_Scorpio Registered User regular
edited March 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm almost 2 weeks into a study abroad program in Salamanca, Spain. I guess I was naive coming into it, but I thought it would be great. The reality is that I'm not happy most of the time. I'm trying my hardest to learn Spanish and making decent progress, but I'm only in Spanish 101 and daily tasks are a chore because of the language barrier. When this thing started, I had two roommates. One of them got kicked out of the apartment for being an idiot and a nuisance, and now the other has basically moved out to be with a bigger group of guys. Me and him were getting along great and went out together a lot, he knew a lot of Spanish, so things were working. But now he's gone and I'm alone and not getting invited to outings unless I call my former roommate and basically pester him (which I loathe doing).

My classes aside from Spanish 101 are Psych 101 and Art History. Art History is nice, but even if I loved all my classes the experience would still be an annoying one. Does anyone have any tips on what I could do to make things better? I'm naturally a pretty independent person and I would be going out to go hiking and do things like that, but the program I'm with has me doing group activites constantly, aside from regular classes. And along with the language barrier, I feel like I'm trapped until April 29th when I go home.

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  • WezoinWezoin Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Best advice I can give is try to make closer, more outgoing friends who will want you around and invite you out to things more.

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  • mightyjongyomightyjongyo Sour Crrm East Bay, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Get one of those phrase books that translate common questions and phrases from english to spanish? At the very least you'd be able to get around to places by calling a taxi or something.

    Maybe you should try reaching out to the people in your group activities, see if they're doing anything interesting and wouldn't mind having another person along.

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  • BowenBowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    See if you can't get a tutor or something to help you in the meantime. Even a friend that is semi-fluent in English can help drastically.

    Any reason you studied abroad without really knowing the language of where you were?

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  • FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Meet a beautiful Spanish woman and ask her to be your tutor?

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Just get out and do things? Honestly, it sounds like you're using the language barrier as an excuse. I've been the lone English speaker and/on American before and it didn't stop me from going out and doing what I wanted to do. You need to make friends in your classes and be proactive about going out and doing what you want. Want to go hiking? Since you're at a college find out if it has a hiking club or ask some classmates if they might be interested. This isn't going to just fall into your lap and you're not going to learn the language if you don't expose yourself to it.

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  • WildEEPWildEEP Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Go on a guided tour.
    It sounds a lot like your expectations was to go out do things and have a good time.
    Study abroad doesnt set that up for you, thats what happens WHILE you're studying abroad.
    Join a tour group. It will give you the experience you were originally looking for.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Just get out and do things? Honestly, it sounds like you're using the language barrier as an excuse. I've been the lone English speaker and/on American before and it didn't stop me from going out and doing what I wanted to do. You need to make friends in your classes and be proactive about going out and doing what you want. Want to go hiking? Since you're at a college find out if it has a hiking club or ask some classmates if they might be interested. This isn't going to just fall into your lap and you're not going to learn the language if you don't expose yourself to it.
    Yeah, we have people on my program here in China that had no prior knowledge of Mandarin. So the language barrier may make things a bit harder, but don't worry, you can still have amazing experiences! Finding a social group nearby that corresponds with your interests is, in my opinion, one of the best ways to get involved.

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  • An-DAn-D Enthusiast AshevilleRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    From my experiences in China (especially when I first got here and couldn't really speak the language), what made things really easy was figuring out where expats hang out and getting to know them. I don't think I've met an unfriendly expat here, and they know the town better than most Chinese people that I've talked to. Find cool foreigners that live there and befriend them!

    A lot of the time, they'll have a website or some kind of forum where they interact on. Find that!

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Can I ask why you're studying abroad? It sounds like you have no language experience and you're taking 100 level courses. Strange program.

    I'm going to France next Fall for four months, but that program required me to have two years of college level French and I'll be studying at a foreign language institute learning French intensively rather than taking "class classes". I'll be coming back to the States with a ton of credits still though.

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  • SerpentSerpent Sometimes Vancouver, BC, sometimes Brisbane, QLDRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I spend a fair amount of time in Australia for work. It sucks being away from friends, family, and all that. For me at least!

    Funnily enough, even after doing this for a few years, all my friends in Brisbane are other Canadians. The earlier advice about finding other expats is good advice.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Serpent wrote: »
    I spend a fair amount of time in Australia for work. It sucks being away from friends, family, and all that. For me at least!

    Funnily enough, even after doing this for a few years, all my friends in Brisbane are other Canadians. The earlier advice about finding other expats is good advice.

    How much is the OP there for language immersion? If you're there to learn the language, hanging out with other English speakers is a bad, bad idea.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    You're in a study abroad program that's designed to immerse you in a different language. You're SUPPOSED to struggle with daily tasks, because it forces you to more quickly learn the language. You're also not supposed to be hanging out with people speaking english. Get out there and get fluent.

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  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Going to another country and hanging out with expats from your own country is boring. I moved to the USA and I don't know a single other British person. This would go doubly so if you wanted to practice a language.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    You're in a study abroad program that's designed to immerse you in a different language. You're SUPPOSED to struggle with daily tasks, because it forces you to more quickly learn the language. You're also not supposed to be hanging out with people speaking english. Get out there and get fluent.

    When I go to France in the Fall the only time I plan on spending with my classmates is in class. I'm making French friends ASAP and spending my free time with them.

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    It can be hard moving countries/languages. A lot of people cannot handle it and you might well be one of them. I'd say stick it out for another couple of weeks though, before you give up on it. Maybe your programme has some sort of social programme or liaison?

    Also, if you can find some expats or English speakers to hang with that will help just give you some comfort. A town of that size should have a few cafes or pubs where they hang, so maybe go there.

    I wouldn't be too worried about people telling you to suck it up and not want to be with people who speak your language etc. Just ignore them. They might well have done it before and love it, but it isn't for everyone. I often go to Europe for weeks at a time and it is pretty hard not to be able to speak fluently to people. I enjoy it, but since I am back in London soon enough it isn't a problem

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Kalkino wrote: »
    It can be hard moving countries/languages. A lot of people cannot handle it and you might well be one of them. I'd say stick it out for another couple of weeks though, before you give up on it. Maybe your programme has some sort of social programme or liaison?

    Also, if you can find some expats or English speakers to hang with that will help just give you some comfort. A town of that size should have a few cafes or pubs where they hang, so maybe go there.

    I wouldn't be too worried about people telling you to suck it up and not want to be with people who speak your language etc. Just ignore them. They might well have done it before and love it, but it isn't for everyone. I often go to Europe for weeks at a time and it is pretty hard not to be able to speak fluently to people. I enjoy it, but since I am back in London soon enough it isn't a problem

    Just so you know, there's a giant difference between a vacation and a study abroad program.

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Esh wrote: »
    Kalkino wrote: »
    It can be hard moving countries/languages. A lot of people cannot handle it and you might well be one of them. I'd say stick it out for another couple of weeks though, before you give up on it. Maybe your programme has some sort of social programme or liaison?

    Also, if you can find some expats or English speakers to hang with that will help just give you some comfort. A town of that size should have a few cafes or pubs where they hang, so maybe go there.

    I wouldn't be too worried about people telling you to suck it up and not want to be with people who speak your language etc. Just ignore them. They might well have done it before and love it, but it isn't for everyone. I often go to Europe for weeks at a time and it is pretty hard not to be able to speak fluently to people. I enjoy it, but since I am back in London soon enough it isn't a problem

    Just so you know, there's a giant difference between a vacation and a study abroad program.

    Interesting comment and thanks for the input

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Kalkino wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    Kalkino wrote: »
    It can be hard moving countries/languages. A lot of people cannot handle it and you might well be one of them. I'd say stick it out for another couple of weeks though, before you give up on it. Maybe your programme has some sort of social programme or liaison?

    Also, if you can find some expats or English speakers to hang with that will help just give you some comfort. A town of that size should have a few cafes or pubs where they hang, so maybe go there.

    I wouldn't be too worried about people telling you to suck it up and not want to be with people who speak your language etc. Just ignore them. They might well have done it before and love it, but it isn't for everyone. I often go to Europe for weeks at a time and it is pretty hard not to be able to speak fluently to people. I enjoy it, but since I am back in London soon enough it isn't a problem

    Just so you know, there's a giant difference between a vacation and a study abroad program.

    Interesting comment and thanks for the input

    In regards to the intent of being there. Hanging out and speaking English all day with other students is not the purpose of being there. You're supposed to be learning the language and soaking up the culture. Looking at his class load he could easily be doing that at his home university and not spending however much more this is costing him.

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Esh wrote: »
    Kalkino wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    Kalkino wrote: »
    It can be hard moving countries/languages. A lot of people cannot handle it and you might well be one of them. I'd say stick it out for another couple of weeks though, before you give up on it. Maybe your programme has some sort of social programme or liaison?

    Also, if you can find some expats or English speakers to hang with that will help just give you some comfort. A town of that size should have a few cafes or pubs where they hang, so maybe go there.

    I wouldn't be too worried about people telling you to suck it up and not want to be with people who speak your language etc. Just ignore them. They might well have done it before and love it, but it isn't for everyone. I often go to Europe for weeks at a time and it is pretty hard not to be able to speak fluently to people. I enjoy it, but since I am back in London soon enough it isn't a problem

    Just so you know, there's a giant difference between a vacation and a study abroad program.

    Interesting comment and thanks for the input

    In regards to the intent of being there. Hanging out and speaking English all day with other students is not the purpose of being there. You're supposed to be learning the language and soaking up the culture. Looking at his class load he could easily be doing that at his home university and not spending however much more this is costing him.

    Right, well your explanation is better and I do admit my response was a little snide, sorry.

    Anyway, I see your point, but on the other hand, if hanging out with English speakers regularly is what he needs to do in order to not hate his time there, or go home early then I think he should do that. Some people either can't handle total immersion, or it takes a while to get used to it and it would suck if he threw it all away after a couple of weeks if there was a half way house option

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  • Hank_ScorpioHank_Scorpio Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Esh wrote: »
    Kalkino wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    Kalkino wrote: »
    It can be hard moving countries/languages. A lot of people cannot handle it and you might well be one of them. I'd say stick it out for another couple of weeks though, before you give up on it. Maybe your programme has some sort of social programme or liaison?

    Also, if you can find some expats or English speakers to hang with that will help just give you some comfort. A town of that size should have a few cafes or pubs where they hang, so maybe go there.

    I wouldn't be too worried about people telling you to suck it up and not want to be with people who speak your language etc. Just ignore them. They might well have done it before and love it, but it isn't for everyone. I often go to Europe for weeks at a time and it is pretty hard not to be able to speak fluently to people. I enjoy it, but since I am back in London soon enough it isn't a problem

    Just so you know, there's a giant difference between a vacation and a study abroad program.

    Interesting comment and thanks for the input

    In regards to the intent of being there. Hanging out and speaking English all day with other students is not the purpose of being there. You're supposed to be learning the language and soaking up the culture. Looking at his class load he could easily be doing that at his home university and not spending however much more this is costing him.

    That's part of why I'm kicking myself over the whole thing. I thought it would be a grand experience but instead it's just mostly frustrating, and I feel like an idiot for burning 3 or 4 grand just to take classes here I could have taken back home. I'm trying to make the most of it but I end up generally being unhappy and regretful at the end of the day. In the end though this isn't a waste even if I go home early, I now know what it's like to live completely on my own in a foreign country. And I didn't lose nearly as much money as I could have, as this is way way cheaper than UC study abroad programs.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I spent 5 months in Europe doing research for my study abroad. I had no on the ground program support and unlike everyone else in my program (students can chose study locales all over the world) I wasn't placed in a home stay but in a dorm used for short-term programs (people would come and go after a couple weeks). So there was no parachute of meeting people in class or things like that. If you have any specific questions about what it's like or how I dealt with things PM me and we can chat.

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  • Hank_ScorpioHank_Scorpio Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I guess I just need to get over what makes me unhappy and focus on doing well in the few but bland classes I have. I only have 8 weeks to go (sounds a lot shorter than 58 days), maybe things will fall into place as time goes by. And I do know of a hiking club, though I'm unsure how to sign up or where exactly it is. I'll look into it.

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  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I guess I just need to get over what makes me unhappy and focus on doing well in the few but bland classes I have. I only have 8 weeks to go (sounds a lot shorter than 58 days), maybe things will fall into place as time goes by. And I do know of a hiking club, though I'm unsure how to sign up or where exactly it is. I'll look into it.

    Why don't you just do something crazy like going to a local bar and trying to meet local girls, or wandering the streets, or attending a local religious service (if you are religious) or watching a play or something. Just so you have more fun memories of your time than sitting in a dorm room feeling lonely. You don't need to worry about looking a fool if you've only got 8 weeks in the area.

    Go see the sights. Salamanca is a renaissance city renowned for it's beautiful architecture.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/spanish-tourist-board/salamanca-spain-university-town

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  • An-DAn-D Enthusiast AshevilleRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    One way to get yourself out town, is to travel as soon as you are able. It sounds like you have a super light, courseload so I can't imagine it being that big of a deal if you skip a Friday or Monday and take a train to....anywhere in Europe for a bit. Stay at hostels, meet new people and have fun.

    I've seen more of China than all of my Chinese students. And I have close to 300 students this semester. It also makes you appreciate your home (in Spain) so much more. Leave, see something awesome and come back refreshed and with a broader perspective.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited March 2011
    I've done an immersion program before. It was probably one of the best experiences of my life.

    You've basically got to be able to have fun with the daily struggle you encounter at first, and take every opportunity to not only learn new words, but really listen to the sounds of words being spoken around you. As someone without real familiarity of the language to start with, you're going to have to go home every day and study your ass off for awhile. Really soak up everything you can in class, as well. Watch TV and movies in Spanish with subtitles, and look for patterns. That last one has always been a huge help to me.

    Don't quit now. Make Spanish friends as soon as you can. The thing is, if you really work at it and do it right, in two months you'll look back at this and smile at how you couldn't do something so simple.

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  • CauldCauld Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Just go out and do things. You'll struggle with the language, but that's part of learning it and also part of studying abroad. It's not too hard to communicate most basic needs without knowing the language, so go for it.

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  • Free HotelFree Hotel Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Esh wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    You're in a study abroad program that's designed to immerse you in a different language. You're SUPPOSED to struggle with daily tasks, because it forces you to more quickly learn the language. You're also not supposed to be hanging out with people speaking english. Get out there and get fluent.

    When I go to France in the Fall the only time I plan on spending with my classmates is in class. I'm making French friends ASAP and spending my free time with them.

    Good luck with that, but sometimes it isn't that easy. Meeting locals can be tough and it certainly isn't as automatic as "making friends ASAP".

    OP, join that hiking club ASAP and go on the next trip. Find a tour company that leaves from your school for weekend trips and go on it. Find the 'international students club' or whatever your uni has and join that. Go to a sports event and ask someone beside you for help understanding it (even if you do understand it, ask something like that as an icebreaker). It seems tough but you have to force yourself to do these things, it won't come to you.

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  • ParmaynuParmaynu Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I can definitely relate to how you're feeling. I always considered myself to be an independent person and so I thought a study exchange would be no big deal. I've been in Montreal since August (from UK) and have had my fair share of miserable times. Although the language barrier isn't as much of an issue due to the vast majority of locals being bi-lingual, I did initially feel pressure in every situation that required interaction; asking directions, shopping, restaurants. It's just something that goes away with time, especially as you get better at learning the basics. It's the best feeling when you manage to pull off something as stupid as ordering a coffee or buying groceries without reverting to English!

    Everyone telling you to go and make friends - they don't realise how much effort that can seem when you're feeling alone and down in a foreign place. It's not easy, but do try. You'll realise how much you appreciate social interactions when you can get them, be it in your classes or with that hiking group you're thinking about.

    Someone else mentioned travel - do this! You're only there for a finite amount of time so make the most of it. The best times I've had this exchange have been travelling to other places in Canada. Trust me - you don't want to come back from this experience feeling like you wasted your time and your money. You say you're independent, so go out and just walk around the city. Sit in coffee shops, people watch, listen to conversations.. try and gain at least an appreciation for another culture, even if you can't bring yourself to completely immerse.

    Obviously, if it gets really bad, talk to somebody. You can even PM me if you like and I can attempt to share more coping strategies! You don't have long to go, so chin up :)

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  • FeatherBladeFeatherBlade Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    It sounds like culture shock may be setting in.

    When you first go to a foreign place where you don't speak the language and hardly know anybody, the first few weeks you are so hopped up on adrenaline and ADVENTURE! that you don't notice how foreign the place is and how far away from home you are.

    Once that starts wearing off, is when the "shock" part of "culture shock" sets in: feeling of panic and depression and inadequacy, as though you are unequal to the task of living in this strange place, and all you want is something familiar and not foreign. Sound about right?

    Don't worry. This is perfectly normal.

    Keep working on your language skills, take in some sun and some sights, make friends with the Spanish students at the school. In a few weeks the panic and feelings of inadequacy will pass, and you will achieve equilibrium and start having fun. You will get excited again, and enthusiastic about what an ADVENTURE! this is, and then the depression will hit again, probably with less intensity, and you'll get over it, same as before.

    Lather, rinse, repeat. As I said, this is perfectly normal. It a recognizable cycle that your guidance counselor should have told you about before you ever left your home country. It's not a reason to give up.

    It might help to find a native speaker who can teach you a skill - if you were in Japan, I would suggest karate, or tea ceremony. For Spain though... Flamenco? Guitar? Flamenco guitar?

    Listen to the advice of the others in the thread. They've got good suggestions.

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