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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
CBS has officially fired Charlie Sheen from Two and Half Men.
I'm sure Sheen is looking forward to spending more time with his family. And by family, I don't mean Emilio, Martin, and Uncle Joe, but rather as many barely-legal porn stars as he can fit into a McMansion before he runs out of cocaine and/or money.
Seriously, we're going to hear about Charlie Sheen dying in about five minutes.
He's a crazy woman beater who's an attention whore and it's disgusting everyone seems to give a shit about him. Or gave him a job after the second, third, fourth, or fifteenth time he was accused of domestic violence.
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The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
Not saying sheen isn't coked out of his mind but I do think he's pulling a bit of a jouaquin Phoenix.
Most people who have had problems with drug abuse, domestic violence, and erratic behavior don't suddenly decide to do performance art to trick people into believing they're having issues with drug abuse, domestic violence, and erratic behavior.
Like, Chris Brown can't go telling jokes about beating women. Bernie Madhoff can't tell jokes about con men. Mark David Chapman can't tell jokes about The Beatles.
Not saying sheen isn't coked out of his mind but I do think he's pulling a bit of a jouaquin Phoenix.
Most people who have had problems with drug abuse, domestic violence, and erratic behavior don't suddenly decide to do performance art to trick people into believing they're having issues with drug abuse, domestic violence, and erratic behavior.
Like, Chris Brown can't go telling jokes about beating women. Bernie Madhoff can't tell jokes about con men. Mark David Chapman can't tell jokes about The Beatles.
Yeah, explaining this as performance art is a stretch; and an unnecessary one.
The man is a train wreck. Has been for years. One day he flips on the TV and he sees all these lesser media spectacles getting reality shows. Your Jersey Shores, your VH1 celeb shit, your Jon & Kates, and he says:
"What the fuck? I'm way more sensational than these dipshits. Where's my reality money?"
So now that he's lost his job on CBS; maybe he figures that if he just turns it up to 11, he might just get paid for it.
I read an analysis of this in Entertainment Weekly (yes, I'm a highfallutin' intellectual snob or somesuch), and they made the point that he probably wasn't fired wholly because of his latest random rampage, but because he's been such an utter pain in the ass to work with for years and years, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. So as much attention as he's getting now, the dude may now be unemployable.
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
edited March 2011
Sheen has said that "people just can't handle him being such a rock star."
Except Charlie Sheen isn't acting like a rock star. Rock stars don't have to pay to have hookers; groupies sleep with them for free. Rock stars don't do a ton of cocaine; their lives are so hectic, they generally turn to downers in their off-time, like pot or heroin. Rock stars don't seek out every media outlet on the planet to assure everyone how awesome they are; they buy reclusive mansions in Tennessee and only show up to melt your face off every couple years.
Rock stars also, you know, create a product. When Mick Jagger and David Bowie were crossdressing and sleeping with each other, no one gave a shit because A), that's just too weird to comment on, and their music was fantastic. Kurt Cobain did a lot of herion; he also made two excellent albums and went out at the peak of his popularity. The Beatles moved to India and took all the LSD they could find, and then they made Sgt. Peppers.
Well, Carlos, you're living the life of excess like the king of rock. And what have you done to earn a pardon from that behavior? Ten seasons of one of the worst sit-coms, ever? Starring roles in such "winning" films like The Arrival and Scary Movie 3? Hardly.
You're living a Rick James lifestyle, but with output of Rupert Holmes.
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
edited March 2011
I wasn't really claiming it was any kind of pure performance art as I was that his turning it up to 11 was a performance. That said he may be unemployable... For now. But if he manages to stay alive he could easily rourke his way back to the top. I mean he CAN be a pretty damn good actor.
Sheen has said that "people just can't handle him being such a rock star."
Except Charlie Sheen isn't acting like a rock star. Rock stars don't have to pay to have hookers; groupies sleep with them for free. Rock stars don't do a ton of cocaine; their lives are so hectic, they generally turn to downers in their off-time, like pot or heroin. Rock stars don't seek out every media outlet on the planet to assure everyone how awesome they are; they buy reclusive mansions in Tennessee and only show up to melt your face off every couple years.
Rock stars also, you know, create a product. When Mick Jagger and David Bowie were crossdressing and sleeping with each other, no one gave a shit because A), that's just too weird to comment on, and their music was fantastic. Kurt Cobain did a lot of herion; he also made two excellent albums and went out at the peak of his popularity. The Beatles moved to India and took all the LSD they could find, and then they made Sgt. Peppers.
Well, Carlos, you're living the life of excess like the king of rock. And what have you done to earn a pardon from that behavior? Ten seasons of one of the worst sit-coms, ever? Starring roles in such "winning" films like The Arrival and Scary Movie 3? Hardly.
You're living a Rick James lifestyle, but with output of Rupert Holmes.
The man is a train wreck. Has been for years. One day he flips on the TV and he sees all these lesser media spectacles getting reality shows. Your Jersey Shores, your VH1 celeb shit, your Jon & Kates, and he says:
"What the fuck? I'm way more sensational than these dipshits. Where's my reality money?"
So now that he's lost his job on CBS; maybe he figures that if he just turns it up to 11, he might just get paid for it.
This is exactly it. A bored actor discovering he can fall back on his vices and become a much more successful caricature in the process. Or, that's his point of view. If he's smart about it, he's not wrong. But I question if he's smart.
Does me laughing at him constantly throughout Hot Shots: Part Deux make him a good actor sometimes?
No, it probably doesn't.
I bet he could be all "Yo, (Kacey|Tanner|Capri), wasn't I a fucking laugh-riot in Hot Shots Part Deux?" And they'd be all "what year did that come out in? Was I born yet? Also why are you paying me to just sit on this couch and watch this shit?" ... Ok, that last part might be me thinking "why's he paying all this money to have them sit and watch shit with him?! THEY'LL DO THINGS, CHARLIE. THINGS!"
Does me laughing at him constantly throughout Hot Shots: Part Deux make him a good actor sometimes?
No, it probably doesn't.
Hot Shots: Part Deux was awesome.
Not that I'm going to watch it again because instead of laughing i'll probably just cringe at some of it.
The first one was funny too.
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
edited March 2011
God I hate that I am coming off as the guy that's defending this creep, and maybe it's just that some of you haven't seen some of his older movies but:
poor Emilio Estevez
all being the overshadowed, less successful brother
...they should totally hire him to replace Charlie Sheen for the show! And pay him 3 million an episode. It would be the perfect "fuck you" move. I mean, I still wouldn't watch it, because the show sucks, but come on...
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You know what? Nanowrimo's cancelled on account of the world is stupid.
God I hate that I am coming off as the guy that's defending this creep, and maybe it's just that some of you haven't seen some of his older movies but:
Wall Street
Young Guns
Cadence
Platoon
were all pretty damn good films.
I haven't seen all of these, but Wall Street was good in spite of Charlie Sheen, not because of him.
poor Emilio Estevez
all being the overshadowed, less successful brother
Sure, hes been less successful financially, but hes been in some great movies:
The Mighty Ducks
Repo Man
The Breakfast Club
St. Elmos Fire (I havent seen it, but a lot of people like it)
Maybe hes been shunned because he was married to Paula Abdul?
The Charlie Sheen bandwagon is on a down turn after his terrible Ustream show this weekend. It wasn't funny, it wasn't shocking. It was just awful awful radio. He was a lot more subdued and just seemed content to spout his catch phrases.
It's either because the whole situation with his kids as sobered him up or he's manic depressive or he really is sober again after his few months of partying and trying to ride the train out.
The website WWTDD's tag of Charlie Sheen dates back to 2007 documenting every thing he's done since then. Most of them are hilariously wacky but a couple are "what the fuck?"
Whether either of those things is a fireable offense is based heavily on how valuable you are to said boss. But, the latter is more likely to get you fired in Hollywood, all things being equal. The former can be covered up if you're a big enough star.
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also known as an Andy Kaufman
Most people who have had problems with drug abuse, domestic violence, and erratic behavior don't suddenly decide to do performance art to trick people into believing they're having issues with drug abuse, domestic violence, and erratic behavior.
Like, Chris Brown can't go telling jokes about beating women. Bernie Madhoff can't tell jokes about con men. Mark David Chapman can't tell jokes about The Beatles.
Yeah, explaining this as performance art is a stretch; and an unnecessary one.
The man is a train wreck. Has been for years. One day he flips on the TV and he sees all these lesser media spectacles getting reality shows. Your Jersey Shores, your VH1 celeb shit, your Jon & Kates, and he says:
"What the fuck? I'm way more sensational than these dipshits. Where's my reality money?"
So now that he's lost his job on CBS; maybe he figures that if he just turns it up to 11, he might just get paid for it.
More real than you know
Except Charlie Sheen isn't acting like a rock star. Rock stars don't have to pay to have hookers; groupies sleep with them for free. Rock stars don't do a ton of cocaine; their lives are so hectic, they generally turn to downers in their off-time, like pot or heroin. Rock stars don't seek out every media outlet on the planet to assure everyone how awesome they are; they buy reclusive mansions in Tennessee and only show up to melt your face off every couple years.
Rock stars also, you know, create a product. When Mick Jagger and David Bowie were crossdressing and sleeping with each other, no one gave a shit because A), that's just too weird to comment on, and their music was fantastic. Kurt Cobain did a lot of herion; he also made two excellent albums and went out at the peak of his popularity. The Beatles moved to India and took all the LSD they could find, and then they made Sgt. Peppers.
Well, Carlos, you're living the life of excess like the king of rock. And what have you done to earn a pardon from that behavior? Ten seasons of one of the worst sit-coms, ever? Starring roles in such "winning" films like The Arrival and Scary Movie 3? Hardly.
You're living a Rick James lifestyle, but with output of Rupert Holmes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcxpbhM0DaA
Kieth Richards shows up at the Sober Valley Lodge to lick Charlie Sheen and get high.
True story.
This is exactly it. A bored actor discovering he can fall back on his vices and become a much more successful caricature in the process. Or, that's his point of view. If he's smart about it, he's not wrong. But I question if he's smart.
Where?
I heard Platoon was a thing
Ergo, Charlie Sheen is a rock star.
Oh yeah, and Henry Rollins too.
No, it probably doesn't.
I bet he could be all "Yo, (Kacey|Tanner|Capri), wasn't I a fucking laugh-riot in Hot Shots Part Deux?" And they'd be all "what year did that come out in? Was I born yet? Also why are you paying me to just sit on this couch and watch this shit?" ... Ok, that last part might be me thinking "why's he paying all this money to have them sit and watch shit with him?! THEY'LL DO THINGS, CHARLIE. THINGS!"
what the fuck
what happened to that comic
Violence again women: not a fireable offense
Talking shit about your boss: fireable offense
Probably for the best, he's going to melt down soon and he'll probably be wearing the other girl as a suit before to long.
Somewhere between Mage and Hunter, if there isn't already a Charlie Sheen: The Cokening source book.
Hot Shots: Part Deux was awesome.
Not that I'm going to watch it again because instead of laughing i'll probably just cringe at some of it.
The first one was funny too.
Wall Street
Young Guns
Cadence
Platoon
were all pretty damn good films.
all having to deal with this crap with his son
all being the overshadowed, less successful brother
...they should totally hire him to replace Charlie Sheen for the show! And pay him 3 million an episode. It would be the perfect "fuck you" move. I mean, I still wouldn't watch it, because the show sucks, but come on...
I haven't seen all of these, but Wall Street was good in spite of Charlie Sheen, not because of him.
Sure, hes been less successful financially, but hes been in some great movies:
The Mighty Ducks
Repo Man
The Breakfast Club
St. Elmos Fire (I havent seen it, but a lot of people like it)
Maybe hes been shunned because he was married to Paula Abdul?
It's either because the whole situation with his kids as sobered him up or he's manic depressive or he really is sober again after his few months of partying and trying to ride the train out.
The website WWTDD's tag of Charlie Sheen dates back to 2007 documenting every thing he's done since then. Most of them are hilariously wacky but a couple are "what the fuck?"
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