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Lent 2011 sharing and support group thread.
Lord Jezo
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ITS LENT!
So, for all of you non heathens out there, what are you giving up in order to feel closer to the sacrifices of Christ and how do you plan on keeping it up?
For me I am going to give up boozing and porn. I am pretty wary on the second part but with the first I figure I will replace it with pills or something. I just got a new bottle of rum so it is going to be pretty hard. Pron, eh, I will deal with it.
So, for all of you non heathens out there, what are you giving up in order to feel closer to the sacrifices of Christ and how do you plan on keeping it up?
For me I am going to give up boozing and porn. I am pretty wary on the second part but with the first I figure I will replace it with pills or something. I just got a new bottle of rum so it is going to be pretty hard. Pron, eh, I will deal with it.
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I don't do lent anymore(we did the fish on fridays/no meat on fridays), we used to be hardcore about it and then when I became diabetic, our family kind of used it as an excuse (SPECIAL DIET ITS OK WITH GOD) to ignore it. keep in mind that my diet doesnt have anything to do with eating meat. We were as a comic put it "Catholic on the holidays"
Now the only reason I know its coming around is mcdonalds and other fast food restaurants bring back the fillet o' fish.
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Honk I do believe you have earned another heathen gold star for never hearing of Lent before.
I would totally swear off that for a year.
But I do appreciate the heathen gold stars. :P
That and belly button lent. The worst.
Rather than give something up, I'm going to do something positive. Not sure what yet.
Yeah I'm on break this week so I missed out on the "Find Out Who's Catholic Enough to Walk Around with Dirt On Their Face" ritual I usually go through every year at school.
Looked at the movie summary and the premise is a farce. He could've had sex on Sundays (actual Lent is like 46 days as Sundays are excluded. Eastern Orthodox have 40 days but they don't start on Ash Wednesday)
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While I may be an atheist now, I grew up Catholic. And I'm pretty sure this sort of goes against the whole idea of Lent.
I'm totes going to do that.
Not so much because I'd be giving something up for Lent but because that's pretty much what I've been doing for seemingly ages
I'm also not a fan of any philosophical practice that asks me to suffer.
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Also, having spent my entire elementary/high school in Catholic Schools, I always rubbed that smear mark out if I had the chance.
Edit: Also, as a good Catholic, I would point out that giving up something "sinful" like porn with the expectation of using it again when Lent is over, probably not what Lent is about. You're not supposed to give up a sin with the expectation of taking it back up. You're supposed to give up something that you enjoy in solidarity with Christ. Its why all my classmates gave up candy or something. Which sucked because my birthday was often in Lent, which meant if I brought treats, like me and three other people would be able to eat, and the rest of the kids would stare at me for tempting them.
Edited2: Not saying that I think pornography is necessarily sinful. I don't. I'm just saying, Catholics think porn makes Jesus sad.
Followed by "Find Out Who Can't Be Bothered to Shower" Thursday.
Oooo! Me! I'm going to give up something for 40 days and get raped at the end! WOOO!
Only if by "fun fact" you really mean "fun myth".
I haven't figured out what I'm going to give up for lent yet. Give me suggestions internet!!!
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I . . .
I do not understand Catholicism.
Well, I'd like some sources on that. Some sources that aren't a Catholic website. I was taught this by my high school history teacher, and my googling doesn't disprove it!
http://www.thecowshow.com/2010/02/real-reason-catholics-dont-eat-meat-on.html
Plus, it makes complete sense.
edit: If this is misinformation though, I'd love to know.
Edit: that source... uh... I like how it continuously says "the pope" over and over, instead of naming the pope, or saying what year this happened in. It also contradicts itself, did he own the fish place, or the "family member"
Yeah, the problem I'm having seems to be that there really ISN'T a single definitive origin for it. I'm seeing something about someone called Edward Vith during the Protestant Reformation doing it, and quite a bit about a Pope in Italy. So given I can't find anything suggesting it's untrue, and Italy has water on three sides, and the Popes have a history of being just all kinds of corrupt, I'm guessing that's probably true.
If someone finds a source that says otherwise though, I'd love to see it.
When I was an insufferable teenager, this was my standard response to any criticism of my behaviour:
As a godless heathen, I've never actually understood Lent. How did the practice of giving up a luxury for a month start, and what does it have to do with Jesus? A link-only response is fine; I'm not trying to bait anyone into an argument, just genuinely curious.
The most fun is when she call her mother to settle her theological uncertainty regarding whether 'prawns count as meat'.
So giving up a bad habit and taking up a good one. Looks like "being a Catholic" and "Not being a Catholic" are perfect for those two.
It reminds us of the time he fasted for 40 days in the desert and was tempted by the Devil.
Anyone can give stuff up. Taking on a beneficial habit is more challenging! On that note, I'm taking the lengthly route to and from work, meaning I walk roughly 4 miles a day. I also have a Trócaire Box* and will be donating £1 a day over Lent, at least.
*Trócaire (Trock-ruh, Irish for "Mercy") is an Irish Charity, and they have an annual tradition of giving little boxes out at the start of Lent, and we put money in them and hand them back at Easter.
One thing that this priest tried to emphasize was that Mass was supposed to be a joyful celebration and the most awesome event ever. This provoked the youthful question that, if said premise were true, would it be okay to give up going to Church for Lent.
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It's always wonderful to see the way kids out think adults that talk down to them. Not saying that's what happened with the Priest, just that you should never underestimate people that haven't had their social conditioning finished.
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Island. Being on fire.
But...fish is meat.
This doesn't make sense.
I'm a Christian, but I've never been big into Lent. I figure if there's something you do that moves you away from God, you should probably be giving it up for longer than just 40 days. Instead of giving up for just a month+, how about you just, you know...do your best to never do it. That always made a little more sense to me.
You need to be born into it, it's a pretty exclusive club that doesn't take kindly to outsiders.
So I will be working from home today, usually that means lots of porn and multiple views during the day every few hours to make up for a week of nothing. I need to stay away from that today. One day Lent sober so far so the drinking isn't much of a problem yet.
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Edit: if your friend is always fasting, is it a fashion thing, or a religion thing? "Fasts" are the hot new holistic bullshit pseudoscience where you are basically starving yourself to get rid of toxins. I liked what someone said on these forums about it: "the dietary equivalent of cutting yourself" and is a pretty unsafe practice when not run by your doctor.
Yes of course, that is the answer, that someone speaking honestly about the ideal of the religion was out-thought by kids who weren't completely brainwashed. Clearly.
You are familiar with what the Mass is supposed to be, right? That priest wasn't too far off. What it ends up being is something different entirely, for better or worse.
Sorry, I didn't intend the anecdote to be taken this seriously. I do understand what the Mass is supposed to be, even if I don't personally believe it. If you're nine, though, and the kind of nine year old that isn't exactly "on fire" with the idea of how great church is, it just seems like the sort of thing you'd jump at, like if you found out it was possible to give up brussel sprouts instead of candy. Regardless, when I was a kid, my dad always got to decide what my sister and I were giving up, and then we'd do it anyway behind his back, and the great circle of guilt would continue.
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I mean, by all logical thought, fish is meat because it's flesh. But as far as the Church is concerned, meat is the flesh of mammals and fowl. Cold-blooded meats don't count? A lot of the food prohibitions in the Bible are pretty puzzling IMO. Meat was also more expensive and therefore more of a luxury and a sacrifice than fish. NB: "carne"/meat in the Romance languages is etymologically related to "caro"/expensive in the Romance languages, which is neat but tangential to the conversation. Anyway, fish has always had special significance for Christians ("fishers of men," the Ichthus, the loaves and fishes parable, etc).
All of this is just spitballing though, I really have no idea and I'm a godless heathen anyway. I think the legend about the medieval pope propping up the fishing industry is a particularly cynical way to look at it, and regardless of whether or not you believe that theology is in general nothing but sophistry, I think it's reasonable to consider it to be sincere rather than entirely self-serving for the most part.