[Megaten Discussion] Elizabeth added to P4A; P4's cast is already dead.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Yeah.

    Also, if you're not spending at least 2 hours fusing every time you go to Tartarus that means you're not fusing enough.

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  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    So glad you can restart from the highest floor you've visited in P3P. Need to bail? Hit a transfer point, save/switch out characters, then start again on the same floor.

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I just run into long dry spells where I need to gain four levels before I can make the next guy. But since I can't level up, I have to wait for a boss that I'll gain three levels on. Also, since I have no money unless they give me a quest with a cash reward, I can never recall guys from the roster back onto my team after fusing something new.

    Even then, the new guys I fuse tend to have the same exact spells (mostly useless so far except for heal and the three damage spells), just with higher stats. I am just now starting to reliably get the spells that hit everyone, and rarely see the higher damage versions.

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  • MarsDragonMarsDragon Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    MarsDragon wrote: »
    I hope P5 is nothing like 3 or 4. Half because I'm an old fart who wants everything to be like it was in the 90s, half because I get off on the delicious tears of angry nerds.

    What "nerds" prefer the pop culture phenomenon of p3/p4? Wouldn't the older first person games be considered more nerdlike?

    I also don't agree in general, persona has evolved into something completely separate from the rest of SMT in terms of feel, and that's a good thing. What I do hope happens is that P5 wont become stagnate and simply copy the same style from P4.

    P4 GREATLY improved upon P3, I'd like to see the same in P5, but a divergence from the school/social link setting wouldn't behoove them at this point. That's what their other series are for.

    ...I don't think our definitions of 'nerds' match up. Just substitute 'fans', if that makes it easer for you.

    But thanks for proving my point about how upset the fans would be if P5 dared do something different. Just makes me want them to break out and do something cool more. Of course, they probably won't because cash cow, but it would be awesome.

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Why not? Persona 2 did something different. Persona 3 did something different.
    Catherine is doing something different.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    As for as the 90s Persona vs the current Persona only thing I really want is the ability for the entire group to equip multiple Persona.

    Like, they could even do a happy medium thing.

    Give the main character the ability to max all his through SL, then give the others natural affinities(like they'd start with their arcana already maxed, and they'd have different levels for the others).

    Also, have theirs go up through like interaction with other characters through cutscenes and such.

    That would be pretty cool I think.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Give the main character the ability to max all his through SL, then give the others natural affinities(like they'd start with their arcana already maxed, and they'd have different levels for the others).

    Also, have theirs go up through like interaction with other characters through cutscenes and such.

    That would be pretty cool I think.
    Aside from the social links for the main character and affinity levels changing, that's essentially what they did with the older games, too. Everyone had "Best" compatibility with "their" Arcana, and then varying compatibility with the other Arcanas.

    But yeah, the "super awesome can do anything hero running around with his three [strike]friends[/strike] meat shields" is my biggest pet peeve with the newer games.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    That's kinda a megaten tradition though.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    But it was never a Persona one until Persona 3. The only thing "super awesome" about the protagonists in the first three games is that you could optimize their stats.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Blackjack wrote: »
    But it was never a Persona one until Persona 3.

    I know. They weren't harvest moon with demons until P3 either.

    But after the sales of P3 I wouldn't expect a return to the P2 ways ever.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Eh, I could see them going back to everyone having multiple Personas, at least.

    I, obviously, would love them to go back to real dungeons and a stronger plot throughout the whole game, but I'm not holding my breath on that one. Multiples for everyone, even if it's just within their Arcana? Yeah, I could see that one.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I just want a proper sequal to Lucifer's Call/Nocturne
    But oh well

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    What I want out of a Persona 5:
    Older characters again / non-high school setting (I think Catherine might be testing these waters).
    Multiple arcana and ability customization for party members.
    Either a huge evolution to the social link system or something entirely new.
    Party members the main character doesn't get with, and thus being able to have their own romances (a la Junpei).


    Also~
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  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    HELL YEAH


    that is all.


    Edit: http://www.p4a.jp

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  • CoercionistCoercionist Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Oh hey, it's actually going to be about 4 and not some offshoot that has almost nothing to do with the games.

    I guess they learned from Trinity Soul after all.

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  • Lezard ValethLezard Valeth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Oh hey, it's actually going to be about 4 and not some offshoot that has almost nothing to do with the games.

    I guess they learned from Trinity Soul after all.

    Still is going to suck. Anime adaptations of anything always suck.

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  • FrosteeyFrosteey Elaise 1521-2945-8940Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Oh hey, it's actually going to be about 4 and not some offshoot that has almost nothing to do with the games.

    I guess they learned from Trinity Soul after all.

    Still is going to suck. Anime adaptations of anything always suck.

    Yugioh is an anime based on a card game and it was great. Persona 4 will be an anime based on a card game so it will also be great.

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Oh hey, it's actually going to be about 4 and not some offshoot that has almost nothing to do with the games.

    I guess they learned from Trinity Soul after all.

    Still is going to suck. Anime adaptations of anything always suck.

    You do realize that at least half of all anime out there is an adaption of a Light Novel or Manga, right?
    Also, it's going to be made by AIC, who did not make Trinity Soul, and who are a decent studio.

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  • Lezard ValethLezard Valeth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Oh hey, it's actually going to be about 4 and not some offshoot that has almost nothing to do with the games.

    I guess they learned from Trinity Soul after all.

    Still is going to suck. Anime adaptations of anything always suck.

    You do realize that at least half of all anime out there is an adaption of a Light Novel or Manga, right?
    Also, it's going to be made by AIC, who did not make Trinity Soul, and who are a decent studio.

    Still, I don't have a lot of confidence about this one; after all, is a videogame plot.
    Also, I'm shocked about this project; I thought japan hated persona 4.

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    All they have to do is adapt the manga.

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Okay, I decided to bite the bullet and start Nocturne or Digital Devil Saga soon. Which? :D

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    One is one of the better games in the series, the other had hemaphrodites.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    What I want out of a Persona 5:
    Older characters again / non-high school setting (I think Catherine might be testing these waters).
    Multiple arcana and ability customization for party members.
    Either a huge evolution to the social link system or something entirely new.
    Party members the main character doesn't get with, and thus being able to have their own romances (a la Junpei).

    I don't know, last time they did this it was kind of awful

    CHIDORI
    Junpei...
    CHIDORI
    Junpei...

    Repeat ad nauseum. Riveting stuff.

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Junpei is still a better character than the entirety of P4's cast aside from Kanji.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Maz- wrote: »
    HELL YEAH


    that is all.


    Edit: http://www.p4a.jp

    No excuses here. They better get their shit together on this one.

    Also, I'm totally okay with them creating filler episodes in order to flesh out all the Social Links.

    And they better play this track in the show:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPogJsxnpAM&playnext=1&list=PLB2458717823EA815

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Junpei is still a better character than the entirety of P4's cast aside from Kanji.

    He's fun and goofy, but I don't believe he's in any way as well written as the cast of P4.

    Them spending so much time putting him in a poorly written "romance" kind of brought him down a lot too.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Junpei is still a better character than the entirety of P4's cast aside from Kanji.

    Wait what...

    Also...two things.

    MC having a voice will be weird.

    Hopefully they steer clear of romantic involvements...unless it involves Chie then it's cool.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Junpei is still a better character than the entirety of P4's cast aside from Kanji.

    Wait what...

    Also...two things.

    MC having a voice will be weird.

    Hopefully they steer clear of romantic involvements...unless it involves Chie then it's cool.

    It won't be weird in English because he'll be played by Johnny Yong Bosch.

    But then again, he also played Adachi, so...yeah it might be weird.

    As for romances, it'll be interesting since there wasn't exactly a "default" romance like in P3 (Yukari...or at least it was canon in the manga). I guess they could just leave that open or use one of the Social Links.

    I'd say Chie would be the best choice, but I think the fans prefer she stay ambiguously in love with someone else....

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Frosteey wrote: »
    Yugioh is an anime based on a card game and it was great.

    Out of all the wrongy things I have ever read this is the wrongiest.

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  • FrosteeyFrosteey Elaise 1521-2945-8940Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Do not even make me duel you to the brink of death to illustrate the superiority of my position : (

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Last Order was an excellent adaption.

    I've heard the Tales anime series are really good too, using the same studio that does the FMV for the games.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    A teaser is out:

    http://youtu.be/zT-GpYBUZQc

    Many of the P4 staff is involved, including the actual composer of the series.

    I'm getting excited!

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  • FrosteeyFrosteey Elaise 1521-2945-8940Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Not a single steak or hat in sight this project is doomed to failure : (

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I wonder if they're implying that the shadow selves will be appearing outside of the TV world. It would be an interesting change, as it would be kind of monotonous to face each one in the dungeons.
    Also, you're totally imagining Shadow Yukiko invading Chie's bedroom.

    No, you were. Yes you were, you liar.

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  • mrmrmrmr nameless protagonist Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Well I'm totally excited for P4 anime. How do you suppose they'd do the MC multiple persona thing? I can't imagine this'll be a full ~50 ep series for some reason, so I doubt it'd do well to have a demon-collecting gimmick. I mean, I'd love it to have 50 eps, but for some reason I feel it'll be at best half that.

    I definetly want character development eps for social links. My favorite parts of both P3 and P4 have been the characters, story, and social links.

    On a similar note, are we even sure that Persona 5 is happening? If it is I expect it to be on PS3. I'd love it to be, in fact.

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  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Hm, I'm expecting 26 episodes. Should be enough to get all the important points across and not have too much or any filler.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I wonder if it'll involve the true ending.


    Slightly more optimistic, animation looks solid. (And Yu Narukami is marginally better than Seta Souji. Ech.)

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Junpei is still a better character than the entirety of P4's cast aside from Kanji.
    He's a great character, and easily the best in Persona 3, but I'd put him around the middle/upper-middle in the P4 cast.

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  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    So apparently the Protag's name is Yu Narukami in this one. Huh.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    And yet some people are griping about his name 'really' being Seta Souji as if the manga somehow means anything.

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