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bouldering is completely different than free climbing
a boulder problem is short, but every move is difficult. if you were to toprope, it would be wholly different.
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ArtreusI'm a wizardAnd that looks fucked upRegistered Userregular
edited June 2011
Yeah, bouldering is in usually way harder and it can be really frustrating to start out with that because you see people flying up routes you can't even conceive of doing. You just have to keep at it, preferably going several times a week.
Finding a partner for top-rope climbing can be really good and fun too though.
Also I went to the gym and bouldered a lot today and made it pretty far on some routes I'm working on. Got my fingers on the last, tough move of this one problem I've been working on but have not managed to stick it yet.
I did some bouldering outdoors for the first time this past weekend and it was amazing. I didn't think it would be too terribly different from climbing in a gym, but it was, and it was awesome. Almost managed to do a V3! (Still counts even if it's called the easiest V3 ever)
Kind of think I'm going to be spending a lot more of my free time finding places to climb outside now.
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Blake TDo you have enemies then?Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered Userregular
edited June 2011
Bouldering isn't harder. It's just different.
Some people like it as it does reinforce traditional lead climbing style which is climb up and don't fall.
Didge, you are never going to enjoy climbing if you are worried about the climbs you can't do. Climbing is like that magic trick where the magician pulls out the never ending silk scarf.
As soon as you have finished what you want to do you will find there is something else for you to do. Its part of the fun. There is always something more to do and it's intensely goal orientated.
Unless you are in the very top echelon of climbers no other climber will give a shit if you can or can't do something. They will just care if you are willing to give something a go. The satisfaction of completing something followed by the fact that I know there is a harder goal for me to aim for is probably the dominate reason I enjoy it so much.
Good advice, all! That gym has a month long trial pass that I might give a go- that way I can go a few more times and get a feel for whether or not climbing is something I'd want to pursue. It's hard to tell from just one session.
And Blake, I'm not really worried about the climbs I can't do (I realize that if I'd go and practice, eventually I'd be able to do them), but I DO worry about falling. I play it too safe, backing out of climbs once I realize how far I am from the ground. But that's just me being a coward, and I'll just have to get over that
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Blake TDo you have enemies then?Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered Userregular
edited June 2011
Oh.
You just need to fall or let go and get used to it.
Everyone gets scared every so often, just from different things while climbing.
And if they tell you they don't then they are either liars or pussies who never push themselves.
Unless you are in the very top echelon of climbers no other climber will give a shit if you can or can't do something. They will just care if you are willing to give something a go.
Blake TDo you have enemies then?Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered Userregular
edited June 2011
Didge this is by no means directed at you. (or the guys from the forums that I took along climbing for the first time either)
But if anything it's more insulting to people who have been doing this sport for years being told that it is unfair that they cannot do something you can after having only tried for an hour.
Unless you are in the very top echelon of climbers no other climber will give a shit if you can or can't do something. They will just care if you are willing to give something a go. The satisfaction of completing something followed by the fact that I know there is a harder goal for me to aim for is probably the dominate reason I enjoy it so much.
This is very much the truth! No one gives a shit and are generally very supportive.
It is however good to have a proper appraisal of your own abilities and be willing to ask for help - I did a multipitch once with a friend of a friend, and climbed up to his anchor to find he was just bracing on the rain slick ledge above his last gear placement, no attachments at all. After I recovered from my brief episode of retrospective terror this conversation ensued:
"What the fuck, why didn't you set up an anchor?!?"
"I thought there'd be loop or something"
"We're trad climbing!"
"Well I've never set up an anchor with gear before. This is my first multipitch really"
"Why didn't you say that at the start! Or when you got up there! Or before I started climbing!"
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ArtreusI'm a wizardAnd that looks fucked upRegistered Userregular
What I've found helpful for overcoming nerves is on my first climb, as I start getting nervous, I just let myself fall off. After the first fall, I'm usually ok.
I'm really, really new to climbing (3 times in my life that I can remember) and I've always felt that I didn't need to be embarrassed about being shit, which is great.
Well it was only a massive VDiff slab of wet quartzy rock (as I ain't great myself), so an actual fall would have just seen me/us sliding down the 70-80 degree slope for a hundred metres or so to a bunch of broken bones and massive abrasions. Its made me pretty paranoid about such things though.
Bleh. My orthopedist today suggested that I hold off on starting rockclimbing. I don't think it affects my strength, but I guess he was worried about too much pressure on joints that are already too lax.
Guess I'll have to wait until the fall maybe when I'm also going to school.
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ArtreusI'm a wizardAnd that looks fucked upRegistered Userregular
edited June 2011
I read that as ornithologist at first and was confused.
Not necessarily he would have fallen to the last place ment and you would have been given a huge whipper.
Whether the placement would have held with 2x the weight is something else entirely.
Regardless it's fucking stupid and it's the exact reason why I don't hit cliff faces with people I don't know. Or if I do, someone I do know is watching them.
Because no offense to any one here. But until I see you belay and setup I am assuming you are all useless and are only alive through sheer luck and will continue to beluve that until proven otherwise. Which you are welcome to do.
That is a very prudent stance to take, Blake. It's all well and good to say to a person "you can climb up that wall with a person belaying you in an extremely controlled environment eventually, when you get enough practice"!
It's an entirely different thing to trust somebody with your goddamn LIFE on an outdoor course.
That's my favorite part though, you get up there do your route, and then lay back down and shoot the shit with everyone else while someone else climbs.
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ArtreusI'm a wizardAnd that looks fucked upRegistered Userregular
I haven't been climbing for a very, very long time; but when I say "climbing," I use term loosely. In college, I would skip class, drive over to Marymoore Park and climb circles around the rocks they have there. I think I'm vertically challenged.
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Blake TDo you have enemies then?Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered Userregular
edited June 2011
Man I go there to climb. If I want to talk I will go to the pub. Which we do. I climb unclip and talk while I belay. Maybe talk for a bit longer if we are doing a three people rotations.
But yeah indoor top roping is different. I'll let anyone do that as ling as I have a simple discussion about whether or not they are aware to feed the rope through the gri gri.
What I've found helpful for overcoming nerves is on my first climb, as I start getting nervous, I just let myself fall off. After the first fall, I'm usually ok.
I'm really, really new to climbing (3 times in my life that I can remember) and I've always felt that I didn't need to be embarrassed about being shit, which is great.
I've been climbing about 3 times as well, and only after having read this, I realized I don't really think I ever even thought about falling.
I think the first couple times I was actually more scared about not having anything BEHIND me for some weird reason. That I never had anything under me never really entered my mind.
I went climbing with my best friend the other day, it had been his first real time climbing. I had never belayed before, so our 'expert climber' friend demonstrated and we spent the entire day belaying for eachother. Then, we noticed the gym has another room, in one part is a giant bouldering cave construct, which was awesome. Then my friend noticed the "crack tower" The crack tower was about as tall as the gym, if I were to spit ball it I'd say 20ish feet, and best friend has to go check it out. Next thing I know he's reading the technique posters on the wall... 10 minutes later he is 8 feet up this damn thing.
I couldn't even get off the ground, it was very cool to watch. An instructor upon hearing it was his first time climbing came and walked him through getting a few more feet until his body just gave out. Really nice people at that gym.
there are two climbing gyms in this whole state and they are both very far away
kinda bummed right now :?
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ArtreusI'm a wizardAnd that looks fucked upRegistered Userregular
edited July 2011
Okay so don't click the spoiler if you don't want to see a potentially gross looking hand.
Yesterday I was bouldering and got some flappers on my palm. I put band-aids on them last night and then slapped some neosporin on them today and took the bandaids off and they look like this
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What should I do with them. When I would get them on my fingers I would throw bandaids on them for a few days and then just let them heal but having them on the hand itself makes that all a bit more tricky. And I'm assuming not everybody at the party I'm going to tonight wants to see really gross things like that.
edit: Also should I cut off the dead skin or just leave it there as a kind of protection and just let it fall off when it is its time.
Also is that image still huge for anyone else? I resized it way down in photobucket, I'm guessing it is just a cache remnant that is making it still giant for me
ArtreusI'm a wizardAnd that looks fucked upRegistered Userregular
In other, less disgusting news, my shoes are getting holes in the toes. So I am stuck with just bouldering until I can get new ones. One of my friends was right in that toproping just tears through the toes quickfast, especially on some of the harder routes I like doing.
Also I've been getting kind of frustrated with lack of progress in the Bouldering. So I've just started making up my own routes in there and working on this one really long route to work on strength and endurance.
Art I'd just leave the skin on for the time being, it'll eventually dry up and if it's starting to annoy you, just cut it off. You can just rip it off, but be aware it might take some of the skin that's not dead with it and hurt, just so ya know.
Put some antiseptic stuff on there. I don't know what the common brands are in the States, but just get some kind of alcohol based one. I find with lotions and ointments that it makes my hands greasy and I hate it, so I use something like Dettol.
I came into this thread originally to ask if anyone had some experience with climbing in Malaysia? I've been looking online at what's going on there, but I just wondered if anyone here had some personal experience
I've found a few climbing forums and sites that talk about some good climbing not far from Kuala Lumpur. Apparently it's a lot of limestone stuff, looks interesting anyway.
I thought Malaysia because I've got mates in Brunei and it'd be cool to tie in some scuba diving and forest trekking in there too. I thought I could take a swing off work early next year and head over for three weeks
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a boulder problem is short, but every move is difficult. if you were to toprope, it would be wholly different.
Finding a partner for top-rope climbing can be really good and fun too though.
Also I went to the gym and bouldered a lot today and made it pretty far on some routes I'm working on. Got my fingers on the last, tough move of this one problem I've been working on but have not managed to stick it yet.
Kind of think I'm going to be spending a lot more of my free time finding places to climb outside now.
Some people like it as it does reinforce traditional lead climbing style which is climb up and don't fall.
Didge, you are never going to enjoy climbing if you are worried about the climbs you can't do. Climbing is like that magic trick where the magician pulls out the never ending silk scarf.
As soon as you have finished what you want to do you will find there is something else for you to do. Its part of the fun. There is always something more to do and it's intensely goal orientated.
Unless you are in the very top echelon of climbers no other climber will give a shit if you can or can't do something. They will just care if you are willing to give something a go. The satisfaction of completing something followed by the fact that I know there is a harder goal for me to aim for is probably the dominate reason I enjoy it so much.
Satans..... hints.....
but boulder routes are shorter. you can train to free climb by bouldering because you will try more difficult moves when you can just hop on.
anyway the point is, don't be discouraged because you can't boulder. it is much harder than it looks.
Satans..... hints.....
And Blake, I'm not really worried about the climbs I can't do (I realize that if I'd go and practice, eventually I'd be able to do them), but I DO worry about falling. I play it too safe, backing out of climbs once I realize how far I am from the ground. But that's just me being a coward, and I'll just have to get over that
You just need to fall or let go and get used to it.
Everyone gets scared every so often, just from different things while climbing.
And if they tell you they don't then they are either liars or pussies who never push themselves.
Satans..... hints.....
Satans..... hints.....
This.
People need to sing this from the mountaintops.
So to speak.
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But if anything it's more insulting to people who have been doing this sport for years being told that it is unfair that they cannot do something you can after having only tried for an hour.
Satans..... hints.....
This is very much the truth! No one gives a shit and are generally very supportive.
It is however good to have a proper appraisal of your own abilities and be willing to ask for help - I did a multipitch once with a friend of a friend, and climbed up to his anchor to find he was just bracing on the rain slick ledge above his last gear placement, no attachments at all. After I recovered from my brief episode of retrospective terror this conversation ensued:
"What the fuck, why didn't you set up an anchor?!?"
"I thought there'd be loop or something"
"We're trad climbing!"
"Well I've never set up an anchor with gear before. This is my first multipitch really"
"Why didn't you say that at the start! Or when you got up there! Or before I started climbing!"
That's horrible!
GoFund The Portland Trans Pride March, or Show It To People, or Else!
I'm really, really new to climbing (3 times in my life that I can remember) and I've always felt that I didn't need to be embarrassed about being shit, which is great.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better
bit.ly/2XQM1ke
but on lead, I am terrified of taking a bad fall
Well it was only a massive VDiff slab of wet quartzy rock (as I ain't great myself), so an actual fall would have just seen me/us sliding down the 70-80 degree slope for a hundred metres or so to a bunch of broken bones and massive abrasions. Its made me pretty paranoid about such things though.
Guess I'll have to wait until the fall maybe when I'm also going to school.
Not necessarily he would have fallen to the last place ment and you would have been given a huge whipper.
Whether the placement would have held with 2x the weight is something else entirely.
Regardless it's fucking stupid and it's the exact reason why I don't hit cliff faces with people I don't know. Or if I do, someone I do know is watching them.
Because no offense to any one here. But until I see you belay and setup I am assuming you are all useless and are only alive through sheer luck and will continue to beluve that until proven otherwise. Which you are welcome to do.
Satans..... hints.....
It's an entirely different thing to trust somebody with your goddamn LIFE on an outdoor course.
edit: depending on how many ropes you have with you I guess
But yeah indoor top roping is different. I'll let anyone do that as ling as I have a simple discussion about whether or not they are aware to feed the rope through the gri gri.
Satans..... hints.....
I think the first couple times I was actually more scared about not having anything BEHIND me for some weird reason. That I never had anything under me never really entered my mind.
I couldn't even get off the ground, it was very cool to watch. An instructor upon hearing it was his first time climbing came and walked him through getting a few more feet until his body just gave out. Really nice people at that gym.
kinda bummed right now :?
Yesterday I was bouldering and got some flappers on my palm. I put band-aids on them last night and then slapped some neosporin on them today and took the bandaids off and they look like this
What should I do with them. When I would get them on my fingers I would throw bandaids on them for a few days and then just let them heal but having them on the hand itself makes that all a bit more tricky. And I'm assuming not everybody at the party I'm going to tonight wants to see really gross things like that.
edit: Also should I cut off the dead skin or just leave it there as a kind of protection and just let it fall off when it is its time.
Also is that image still huge for anyone else? I resized it way down in photobucket, I'm guessing it is just a cache remnant that is making it still giant for me
Also I've been getting kind of frustrated with lack of progress in the Bouldering. So I've just started making up my own routes in there and working on this one really long route to work on strength and endurance.
Put some antiseptic stuff on there. I don't know what the common brands are in the States, but just get some kind of alcohol based one. I find with lotions and ointments that it makes my hands greasy and I hate it, so I use something like Dettol.
I came into this thread originally to ask if anyone had some experience with climbing in Malaysia? I've been looking online at what's going on there, but I just wondered if anyone here had some personal experience
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better
bit.ly/2XQM1ke
Art cut it off if you dont it will just callous over and you will tear it again.
Satans..... hints.....
I thought Malaysia because I've got mates in Brunei and it'd be cool to tie in some scuba diving and forest trekking in there too. I thought I could take a swing off work early next year and head over for three weeks
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better
bit.ly/2XQM1ke
Will do.
That's all I'm going to say about that.
Satans..... hints.....
Satans..... hints.....